Santorum brought home stillborn child...bat**** crazy alert.

[Bubblehead1980]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Apr17.html

[Oberon]

Aaaah, the US press during the election season...nothing is sacred.

[magicstix]

Oh noes. He brought his stillborn child home to mourn rather than throw him in medical waste disposal like a good godless liberal. What a horrible person he is.

Really? This makes him crazy? Have you ever lost a child?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by magicstix

rather than throw him in medical waste disposal like a good godless liberal.

What a stupid comment. As if someone's political leanings have anything to do with it.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

What a stupid comment. As if someone's political leanings have anything to do with it.

I am pro choice and an atheist so suppose I get lumped in with the libs from time to time(whihc is ironic because I pretty much despise liberals otherwise) by those who do not know any better.I would rather be a godless liberal than a religious fool who ignores reality and believes in the big magic man in the sky.

No, not throw the baby in the dumpster but have the body sent to a funeral home and have a proper service, you know? Like normal, rational thinking people do when they grieve, not take it home like an irrational fool.

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by magicstix

Oh noes. He brought his stillborn child home to mourn rather than throw him in medical waste disposal like a good godless liberal. What a horrible person he is.

Really? This makes him crazy? Have you ever lost a child?

So true it's funny ...

The poor guy has so many against him you wonder who is for him.

Yet he is a man not afraid to say what he thinks.

Ask the gays

haha well this is just such a no brainer

If you have no brain that may be the case.

can't believe how many people on here disagree with me on this one.

Yet you still make silly claims about what "most people" think

Most people would not want to bring a dead baby home

Prove it, and on top of that prove that it has any relevance whatsoever

@Bilge rat

A funeral home or a cemetery is a place which a child will only visit on these kinds of occasion.

?????????

You have time to prepare a child and to explain what death means.

Do you really, is that a little chat on the way there or a little chat when you get back from the hospital?
How would any of that be different from a little chat before them seeing the dead body?

Bringing a body into the home may have an unsettling effect on the child (obviously it depends on the child)

And it may not, showing a child a coffin may have an unsettling effect, showing them a graveyard may have an unsettling effect ...so what?

I can still vividly see the image of him in his coffin

Some people don't like open coffins, does that mean people who choose open coffins are bat*** crazy or are the ones with closed coffins the crazies?
Some people don't like bodies being enbalmed, does that make them crazy?
Some people hate having a funeral director do anything apart from supply the box and drive the car, does that make them crazy?

[Bilge_Rat]

Ah Tribesman....

thank god you are there to show us the errors of our ways. relax man, its an internet discussion.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Tomorrow, my three year old daughter is off to see her Great-Grandfather, he died on New Year's Day, she saw him a couple of hours before he died in hospital.

On Friday, she will be at the crematorium, if she doesn't shout out something along the lines of, "Is he burned yet? Have they set him on fire? When do we throw him under that tree?", I'll be most amazed. I also don't care. We've had full and frank (and extremely funny) discussions about death, dying, burial, cremation, embalming, and she will be one of the most informed three year olds I know - we haven't tried to hide any aspect of it from her and have been totally honest, including our ignorance of what happens with his wee.

I hope this, along with her minder taking her to see the grave of a family friend, sets her in good stead for all future deaths she may come across, and not this bury-your-head-in-the-sand-in-the-hope-it'll-never-happen attitude most people (including me, up to a couple of weeks ago) seem to have nowadays.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Aaaah, the US press during the election season...nothing is sacred.

Well the people need to know about this religious wackjob as he has to be taken seriously for now.I am a Republican and a Conservative(albeit non religious) but this guy is just scary, he is out of his mind.

[magicstix]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Well the people need to know about this religious wackjob as he has to be taken seriously for now.I am a Republican and a Conservative(albeit non religious) but this guy is just scary, he is out of his mind.

I'm sure you have your reasons for thinking so, but attacking him for bringing his dead child home for visitation instead of a funeral home is not in the slightest bit crazy and very much below the belt. You'll have to use some other sensational evidence, IMO.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Well the people need to know about this religious wackjob as he has to be taken seriously for now.I am a Republican and a Conservative(albeit non religious) but this guy is just scary, he is out of his mind.

Strikes me as extremely arrogant and pathetic to criticize how any family grieves for the loss of a child. This is a tough time for any family who's been through the loss of a baby.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Strikes me as extremely arrogant and pathetic to criticize how any family grieves for the loss of a child. This is a tough time for any family who's been through the loss of a baby.

There is nothing arrogant and pathetic about pointing out that someone is sounbalanced to bring a dead body home to "meet" the family. Grief is a powerful emotion but rational, sane people do not even react this way when grieving where as people who are irrational and not exactly sane normally(Santorum's much espoused religious views show he is not exactly rational to begin with) This fool brought a dead body home! Sure it was a baby, but remove the emotion attached to it being a child "it's a baby" is a not an excuse for crazy behavior from anyone, let a lone a Presidential candidate.

Bubbles, you are really showing yourself up.
while a few people have touched on why it may be a story you are just demonstrating that you are totally clueless.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

There is nothing arrogant and pathetic about pointing out that someone is sounbalanced to bring a dead body home to "meet" the family. Grief is a powerful emotion but rational, sane people do not even react this way when grieving where as people who are irrational and not exactly sane normally(Santorum's much espoused religious views show he is not exactly rational to begin with) This fool brought a dead body home! Sure it was a baby, but remove the emotion attached to it being a child "it's a baby" is a not an excuse for crazy behavior from anyone, let a lone a Presidential candidate.

You haven't been there so you dont know what was in his head at the time ,If you had you wouldn't even be posting this so called "story" - have you got any idea what people go through when this happens? ,any idea of the hell a couple go through with this? ,any idea of the fear you go through EVERY day of the next pregnancy hoping it doesn't happen again? ,and the fear when your wife starts having pre-eclampsia and the baby has to be delivered 4 and a half weeks early with an emergency c-section!

This story doesn't say sod all about the man but it says volumes about you and the things your prepared to post and beat up because you dont like the guy!


I'm sorry if anyone else finds this post offensive but I had to vent about bubbleheads post and attitude with this - my eldest would have been 14 this year ,despite what some people think it never leaves you ,it just gradually hurts less over the years ,and for someone to cheapen that is disgusting!