What happens to deposed leaders?

Gerald · 04-14-11, 01:24 PM

In Ivory Coast, the country's former president, Laurent Gbagbo, is under arrest. In Libya, the calls for Col Muammar Gaddafi to stand down are gaining strength as the Nato-led bombing campaign continues. So what happens to leaders if they lose power?

There was no more visible proof that Mr Gbagbo had lost power than the sight of him dressed in a white vest, towelling himself down and changing into a floral shirt.

That image brought into sharp focus the reality of a post-presidential era, just as the UN-recognised president, Alassane Ouattara, was promising him a fair trial.

Some 1,500 people have been killed across the country and a million forced from their homes during the four-month stand-off since the disputed elections.

As the fighting in Libya goes on, questions are also being asked about what the future holds for Col Gaddafi, while Egypt's Hosni Mubarak is under arrest for alleged corruption. So what usually happens to deposed leaders like these?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13052996

Note: 14 April 2011 Last updated at 10:30 GMT

Armistead · 04-14-11, 01:27 PM

Probably sit on corporate boards

Fish In The Water · 04-14-11, 02:04 PM

I wonder if they have a deposed despot retirement home where they all sit around and top each other with stories of how they oppressed the peasants?

04-14-11, 03:37 PM

A depressing topic this one, I'm afraid this is the world we live in.

it is necessary to disagree with everything (or one) who would control your Spirit.

Gerald · 04-14-11, 03:48 PM

Welcome to reality!

bookworm_020 · 04-14-11, 07:51 PM

If you want to know where they are hiding out, ask the Swiss where they send the bank statements....

UnderseaLcpl · 04-14-11, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

If you want to know where they are hiding out, ask the Swiss where they send the bank statements....

No. Do not ask the Swiss. Don't pressure them, don't do anything. Just leave them alone. They put a lot of effort into becoming a good, neutral, prosperous, and beautiful country with a laissez-faire economy and I will not have you ruining it by demanding disclosure of bank statements to pursue impotent former tyrants. Find some other way.

the_tyrant · 04-14-11, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

If you want to know where they are hiding out, ask the Swiss where they send the bank statements....

Every half decent "leader" knows the best way to store money is Krugerrands under the mattress

vienna · 04-15-11, 02:32 PM

I once spent a couple of months in Nicaragua in the mid-60's when Somoza was still in power. Actually got to see firsthand some of the government's actions against their opponents in the capital, Managua. The experience gave me a greater appreciation of American freedoms. After the ouster of Somoza, he met the kind of end one can only hope for tyrants:

[From Wikipedia:]

Somoza was assassinated near his exile home on September 17, 1980. He was 54 years old. Somoza Debayle was ambushed by a seven-person Sandinista commando team (four men and three women). This was known as "Operation Reptile."
The Sandinista team had two Soviet-made machine guns, two AK-47 assault rifles, two automatic pistols, and an RPG-7 rocket launcher with four anti-tank grenades and two rockets. The leader was Argentinian Marxist revolutionary Enrique Gorriarán Merlo (code named "Ramon"), an ex-Ejército Revolucionario del Pueblo member.[4] One of the team members said: "We cannot tolerate the existence of millionaire playboys whilst thousands of Latin Americans are dying of hunger. We are perfectly willing to give up our lives for this cause."
For over six months the Sandinista assassins researched and planned their assault. The team meticulously studied Somoza's movements with a team member who was staked out at a newspaper kiosk near the estate. They waited in ambush for Somoza in Avenida España. Somoza was often driven about the city in a presumed unarmored Mercedes-Benz S-Class sedan. Team member Oswaldo, disguised as a paper boy, watched Somoza exit the estate and signaled when he was leaving at 10:10 A.M.
Once in position, Hugo Irarzun (El Capitán Santiago) readied the RPG-7. He tried to fire an anti-tank rocket at the car, but the RPG-7 misfired. Ramon then gunned down the chauffeur while Irarzun quickly reloaded the RPG with a new rocket. The second rocket made a direct hit on the sedan. Accounts mentioned that the Mercedes' engine kept on running even after the rocket explosion. Previously the commando team had considered the possibility that Somoza's vehicle might indeed be equipped with forward-paneled armor. This would most likely deflect the rocket projectile upwards if hit from a frontal stance. The Sandinista team decided to engage with a lateral attack which would rule out any projectile deflection. Somoza was killed instantly and charred with the other two passengers in the car, his financial advisor Jou Baittiner and his new driver César Gallardo. Later Media reports in Paraguay stated that Somoza's body was so unrecognizable that forensics had to identify him through his feet. Of the seven assassins, six escaped. Irarzun was later captured because of his blonde beard and was executed.

The resale value of this car is virtually nil...

04-14-11, 01:24 PM	#1
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,223 Downloads: 548 Uploads: 0	What happens to deposed leaders? In Ivory Coast, the country's former president, Laurent Gbagbo, is under arrest. In Libya, the calls for Col Muammar Gaddafi to stand down are gaining strength as the Nato-led bombing campaign continues. So what happens to leaders if they lose power? There was no more visible proof that Mr Gbagbo had lost power than the sight of him dressed in a white vest, towelling himself down and changing into a floral shirt. That image brought into sharp focus the reality of a post-presidential era, just as the UN-recognised president, Alassane Ouattara, was promising him a fair trial. Some 1,500 people have been killed across the country and a million forced from their homes during the four-month stand-off since the disputed elections. As the fighting in Libya goes on, questions are also being asked about what the future holds for Col Gaddafi, while Egypt's Hosni Mubarak is under arrest for alleged corruption. So what usually happens to deposed leaders like these? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13052996 Note: 14 April 2011 Last updated at 10:30 GMT __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

04-14-11, 03:48 PM	#5
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,223 Downloads: 548 Uploads: 0	Welcome to reality! __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	If you want to know where they are hiding out, ask the Swiss where they send the bank statements.... __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,864 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Probably sit on corporate boards

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Fish In The Water Prince of the Sea SUBSIM Welcome Committee Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Watching over U-253 Posts: 3,527 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 2	I wonder if they have a deposed despot retirement home where they all sit around and top each other with stories of how they oppressed the peasants?

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sidslotm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	A depressing topic this one, I'm afraid this is the world we live in. it is necessary to disagree with everything (or one) who would control your Spirit.

04-15-11, 02:32 PM	#9
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,503 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I once spent a couple of months in Nicaragua in the mid-60's when Somoza was still in power. Actually got to see firsthand some of the government's actions against their opponents in the capital, Managua. The experience gave me a greater appreciation of American freedoms. After the ouster of Somoza, he met the kind of end one can only hope for tyrants: [From Wikipedia:] Somoza was assassinated near his exile home on September 17, 1980. He was 54 years old. Somoza Debayle was ambushed by a seven-person Sandinista commando team (four men and three women). This was known as "Operation Reptile." The Sandinista team had two Soviet-made machine guns, two AK-47 assault rifles, two automatic pistols, and an RPG-7 rocket launcher with four anti-tank grenades and two rockets. The leader was Argentinian Marxist revolutionary Enrique Gorriarán Merlo (code named "Ramon"), an ex-Ejército Revolucionario del Pueblo member.[4] One of the team members said: "We cannot tolerate the existence of millionaire playboys whilst thousands of Latin Americans are dying of hunger. We are perfectly willing to give up our lives for this cause." For over six months the Sandinista assassins researched and planned their assault. The team meticulously studied Somoza's movements with a team member who was staked out at a newspaper kiosk near the estate. They waited in ambush for Somoza in Avenida España. Somoza was often driven about the city in a presumed unarmored Mercedes-Benz S-Class sedan. Team member Oswaldo, disguised as a paper boy, watched Somoza exit the estate and signaled when he was leaving at 10:10 A.M. Once in position, Hugo Irarzun (El Capitán Santiago) readied the RPG-7. He tried to fire an anti-tank rocket at the car, but the RPG-7 misfired. Ramon then gunned down the chauffeur while Irarzun quickly reloaded the RPG with a new rocket. The second rocket made a direct hit on the sedan. Accounts mentioned that the Mercedes' engine kept on running even after the rocket explosion. Previously the commando team had considered the possibility that Somoza's vehicle might indeed be equipped with forward-paneled armor. This would most likely deflect the rocket projectile upwards if hit from a frontal stance. The Sandinista team decided to engage with a lateral attack which would rule out any projectile deflection. Somoza was killed instantly and charred with the other two passengers in the car, his financial advisor Jou Baittiner and his new driver César Gallardo. Later Media reports in Paraguay stated that Somoza's body was so unrecognizable that forensics had to identify him through his feet. Of the seven assassins, six escaped. Irarzun was later captured because of his blonde beard and was executed. The resale value of this car is virtually nil...