[REL] Depth charge water disturbances

TheDarkWraith · 03-18-11, 09:33 PM

This mod will cause water disturbances when depth charges explode underwater. These water disturbances will mess with the destroyers/escorts sonar and hydrophone allowing the player's sub to take more evasive maneuvers and higher speeds for a short period of time after the depth charge(s) explodes. This is to model natural effects that happen in real life in the water.

Each person may want to tweak the size (m2) that this area effects to their taste, the ilfetime (in mins), and the noise value (don't know what/how this one works in game)

Can be enabled/disabled at any time

To install:
unzip straight to MODS folder and enable via JSGME

v1.0: first release
v2.0: adjusted surface, lifetime, and noise (via some feedback from Rubini)
v3.0: added support for hedge hogs
v4.0: adjusted lifetime of disturbance from 8 seconds to 45 seconds for each DC explosion

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20143...ce_v4_0_SH3_7z

Sailor Steve · 03-18-11, 09:56 PM

Cool! Will install at the end of this patrol.

frau kaleun · 03-18-11, 10:10 PM

At the rate cool stuff is being released lately, I may never get out of base again.

"Every time I think I'm out, they pull me back in..."

Bakkels · 03-18-11, 10:15 PM

"Our true enemy, has yet to reveal himself!"

But once again, great little mod DarkWraith. Thanks.

Fish In The Water · 03-18-11, 10:18 PM

Great innovation...

Between this and fire damage things are really (pardon the pun) heating up. Thanks very much!

Victor Schutze · 03-18-11, 10:57 PM

Very good improvement realism wise!

I try it as soon as i get back to port

Damo · 03-19-11, 12:30 AM

Well TDW, always been a fan of your work ever since SH4 Effects for SH3. I kind of build most of my SH3 installs around that mod. Just recently got SH5 and been tinkering with a few of your offerings on that too. In fact, with all the stuff you do over there, then find time to come over here and solve age old problems that have been crying out for a solution for so long, I worry that you may be neglecting your real life, maybe dreaming in binary by now?

So as a thankyou, and I'm sure the rest of the subsim community will agree with me, take the rest of the weekend off, kick back with a beer in your hand (or your favorite ladyfriend, fnarr, fnarr) and relax. Report back once you are refreshed and rested with news of your next groundbreaking endeavour.

We'll cover for you at BdU.

Rubini · 03-19-11, 12:37 AM

Hi TDw,

Thanks again for more this mod. I didn´t tested it yet..but my curiosity already openned the file.

You know that I tried to make it without success...

So, I noticed that it isn´t attached to the DC/DC effects in any way (no parent ID related - it´s zero in truth) So, how you attached the bold effect to the DC explosion?

If you prefer you can reply me by PM.
Cheers!

TheDarkWraith · 03-19-11, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

Hi TDw,

Thanks again for more this mod. I didn´t tested it yet..but my curiosity already openned the file.

You know that I tried to make it without success...

So, I noticed that it isn´t attached to the DC/DC effects in any way (no parent ID related - it´s zero in truth) So, how you attached the bold effect to the DC explosion?

If you prefer you can reply me by PM.
Cheers!

Look closely at the file. You'll find the IDs of the DC explosion effects as the parents of a special controller. This controller exists in an .act file but I had to 'make' it (this goes way back to my SH4 effects for SH3 mod as to how I did the secondary explosions) from the data I found in that .act file as it didn't exist anywhere in any of the files (it took many, many tries to get the format of it correct)

Rubini · 03-19-11, 12:44 AM

Don´t Mind!

Got it!

Rubini · 03-19-11, 01:40 AM

Ok, i can´t resist. First feedback:

At first: it really works!! Kudos TDW! (I have get close, I just didn´t put a 3D ID object on the main node!)

I make a round of quick tests on U505 mission and I found it more useful adjusting the parameters as below:
life_time=10
surface=250
noise=0,5

In each DC attack round all the DC explodes on a short period from the first one to the last, in less than ten seconds (medium), so adjusting it for 10 we will have almost 20 seconds of disturbance.

The noise parameter is a hydrophone only disturbance (i guess), so 0,5 seems a good number&good results ( based on sim.cfg hydrophone values).

Could be good if others could also looked at these values&test them to we find the best ones. I guess that TDW haven´t enough time to make deep tests on this.

Someone knows something historical about how much the DC brings a ASDIC/Hydrophone disturbance?

Cheers again TDW!

rik007 · 03-19-11, 02:05 AM

Wow! TDW, thank you! How long have we been waiting for this!

Robin40 · 03-19-11, 02:16 AM

TDW...the SuperModder

Can I activate this mod in mid-patrol?

I want to escape those damned DD's

Magic1111 · 03-19-11, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

life_time=10

@ rubini: Do you mean really 10, not 0,10 ???

Because the current setting from TDW is 0,12. And I mean the setting from 0,12 (TDW) to 10 (from yours) is a great difference !

@ TDW: Wonderful MOD as ever, many thanks !

Best regards,
Magic

TheDarkWraith · 03-19-11, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

I make a round of quick tests on U505 mission and I found it more useful adjusting the parameters as below:
life_time=10
surface=250
noise=0,5

In each DC attack round all the DC explodes on a short period from the first one to the last, in less than ten seconds (medium), so adjusting it for 10 we will have almost 20 seconds of disturbance.

The noise parameter is a hydrophone only disturbance (i guess), so 0,5 seems a good number&good results ( based on sim.cfg hydrophone values).

Could be good if others could also looked at these values&test them to we find the best ones. I guess that TDW haven´t enough time to make deep tests on this.

According to the .act file, the lifetime is in minutes thus is why I set it for 0.12 (0.12 * 60 seconds = 7.2 seconds). Surface is in square meters (m2) and from looking at all the bold decoys available in game the bold type 1 had the smallest m2 value so I used it. I really didn't have a clue what I should set the m2 value to. By releasing this for everyone to test we can come up with an appropriate value. The Noise value, well I really had no clue on this one. The .act file said >= 0. If that's not vague I don't know what is

What does this noise do? What is an appropriate value to set it to

Once again by releasing this and letting you all play around and test it we can come up with appropriate values.
Now why did I choose 7.2 seconds for the lifetime? It's a number I pulled out of the air

I don't know how long these water disturbances should last when a DC explodes

03-18-11, 09:33 PM	#1
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	[REL] Depth charge water disturbances This mod will cause water disturbances when depth charges explode underwater. These water disturbances will mess with the destroyers/escorts sonar and hydrophone allowing the player's sub to take more evasive maneuvers and higher speeds for a short period of time after the depth charge(s) explodes. This is to model natural effects that happen in real life in the water. Each person may want to tweak the size (m2) that this area effects to their taste, the ilfetime (in mins), and the noise value (don't know what/how this one works in game) Can be enabled/disabled at any time To install: unzip straight to MODS folder and enable via JSGME v1.0: first release v2.0: adjusted surface, lifetime, and noise (via some feedback from Rubini) v3.0: added support for hedge hogs v4.0: adjusted lifetime of disturbance from 8 seconds to 45 seconds for each DC explosion http://www.gamefront.com/files/20143...ce_v4_0_SH3_7z Last edited by TheDarkWraith; 03-20-11 at 10:29 AM.

03-18-11, 09:56 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Cool! Will install at the end of this patrol. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-18-11, 10:15 PM	#4
Bakkels Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 709 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 6	"Our true enemy, has yet to reveal himself!" But once again, great little mod DarkWraith. Thanks. __________________ My sh3 skins : http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/Bakkels Or go to the sh3 downloads section > skins

03-19-11, 12:30 AM	#7
Damo Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: Forever stuck in Data folder... Posts: 482 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	Well TDW, always been a fan of your work ever since SH4 Effects for SH3. I kind of build most of my SH3 installs around that mod. Just recently got SH5 and been tinkering with a few of your offerings on that too. In fact, with all the stuff you do over there, then find time to come over here and solve age old problems that have been crying out for a solution for so long, I worry that you may be neglecting your real life, maybe dreaming in binary by now? So as a thankyou, and I'm sure the rest of the subsim community will agree with me, take the rest of the weekend off, kick back with a beer in your hand (or your favorite ladyfriend, fnarr, fnarr) and relax. Report back once you are refreshed and rested with news of your next groundbreaking endeavour. We'll cover for you at BdU. __________________ The owl and the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea-green boat. It only took one T1 eel to convince that boat not to float.

03-19-11, 12:37 AM	#8
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Hi TDw, Thanks again for more this mod. I didn´t tested it yet..but my curiosity already openned the file. You know that I tried to make it without success... So, I noticed that it isn´t attached to the DC/DC effects in any way (no parent ID related - it´s zero in truth) So, how you attached the bold effect to the DC explosion? If you prefer you can reply me by PM. Cheers! __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve

03-18-11, 10:10 PM	#3
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	At the rate cool stuff is being released lately, I may never get out of base again. "Every time I think I'm out, they pull me back in..."

03-18-11, 10:18 PM	#5
Fish In The Water Prince of the Sea SUBSIM Welcome Committee Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Watching over U-253 Posts: 3,527 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 2	Great innovation... Between this and fire damage things are really (pardon the pun) heating up. Thanks very much!

03-18-11, 10:57 PM	#6
Victor Schutze Chief Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Drowning in mods soup Posts: 327 Downloads: 466 Uploads: 0	Very good improvement realism wise! I try it as soon as i get back to port

03-19-11, 12:44 AM	#10
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Don´t Mind! Got it! __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve Last edited by Rubini; 03-19-11 at 01:29 AM.

03-19-11, 01:40 AM	#11
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Ok, i can´t resist. First feedback: At first: it really works!! Kudos TDW! (I have get close, I just didn´t put a 3D ID object on the main node!) I make a round of quick tests on U505 mission and I found it more useful adjusting the parameters as below: life_time=10 surface=250 noise=0,5 In each DC attack round all the DC explodes on a short period from the first one to the last, in less than ten seconds (medium), so adjusting it for 10 we will have almost 20 seconds of disturbance. The noise parameter is a hydrophone only disturbance (i guess), so 0,5 seems a good number&good results ( based on sim.cfg hydrophone values). Could be good if others could also looked at these values&test them to we find the best ones. I guess that TDW haven´t enough time to make deep tests on this. Someone knows something historical about how much the DC brings a ASDIC/Hydrophone disturbance? Cheers again TDW! __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve Last edited by Rubini; 03-19-11 at 05:03 AM.

03-19-11, 02:05 AM	#12
rik007 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 785 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	Wow! TDW, thank you! How long have we been waiting for this!

03-19-11, 02:16 AM	#13
Robin40 Chief Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rivoli (Italy) Posts: 310 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	TDW...the SuperModder Can I activate this mod in mid-patrol? I want to escape those damned DD's Last edited by Robin40; 03-19-11 at 02:33 AM.