[REL] Harbour Addition_Environment Enhancement Mod v0.5

HanSolo78 · 03-25-10, 05:01 AM

Since the stock game SH5 comes with much better harbours than SH3/4, I was really
happy to see the german harbours much more recognizable.
Also the other big harbours which were used for u-boat warfare are much better implemented...
but this does not mean that they are perfect. Now the harbours are lifeless, without any moving
and activ environment.

This thread should be used to announce and release harbour additions which contain new 3d models,
terrain changes to harbours, animated people, animated cranes, living environment, etc.
Everything that has to do with enhancing the harbour atmosphere.

Download:

Harbour_Addition_Environment_Enhancement Mod v0.5 for Lite Campaign 1.2 german:
Download

Harbour_Addition_Environment_Enhancement Mod v0.5 for Open Horizons:
Download

Video of version 0.5:

SKIPPED AT THE MOMENT:
Since my first time of SH5 it annoyed me a bit that the piers of harbours are way too high and look somehow ugly.
"I figured out how to change these heigh harbour piers.. already done that with Kiel BUT -
the problem is that all the terrain around the harbour has to be reworked too because some buildings will sink into the ground otherwise.
And this takes time... already used to take me about 3-4 hours."

bigboywooly · 03-25-10, 06:52 AM

Nice one Hans
How did you get on with the Terrain Editor ?
I didnt find it that good - camera lock didnt work for a start making changes real difficult

Regio Sommergibile · 03-25-10, 06:55 AM

Amazing work

Carotio · 03-25-10, 07:15 AM

I see the Laboe and Moltenort have been converted nicely into SH5. I recall someone asked for it...
Nice

thfeu58 · 03-25-10, 07:27 AM

Hi Han,

I see you out again plunges fully into the work. Toll what you have begun,but as Bigboywooly writes difficult to see on the screens.

How do I know you, you have already tried some and is accord on the screens (both monuments from SHIII), can the port workers, security guards, cranes, vehicles, port rail and sluices imported from SHIII?

Greeting
thfeu58

sergei · 03-25-10, 07:35 AM

Nice work

urfisch · 03-25-10, 07:57 AM

the piers where far to high! right...nice work so far!

ReallyDedPoet · 03-25-10, 07:58 AM

Very nice Han

HanSolo78 · 03-25-10, 08:07 AM

Hi!

@bbw

Actually after some learning how to do with the terrain editor I cam along really good...
only what used to be a bit difficult was to create straight beaches.

@Thfeu58

About the other stuff to import we have to try... I realized that Sh5 has some problems importing .dat files...
at least I experienced this until now.
Everytime I wanted to import a .dat file which has more than one level..
more than 1 3D object only display the first 3dobject.
So.. as many other files do build on this system.. it may be difficult. But maybe we´ll find a workaround.
The bad thing.. if it does not work... we´ll get problems with animations, etc.
With Granny also animations are possible.. but we would need a appopriate Tool to edit these files!

thfeu58 · 03-25-10, 09:21 AM

@Thfeu58

About the other stuff to import we have to try... I realized that Sh5 has some problems importing .dat files...
at least I experienced this until now.
Everytime I wanted to import a .dat file which has more than one level..
more than 1 3D object only display the first 3dobject.
So.. as many other files do build on this system.. it may be difficult. But maybe we´ll find a workaround.
The bad thing.. if it does not work... we´ll get problems with animations, etc.
With Granny also animations are possible.. but we would need a appopriate Tool to edit these files![/QUOTE]

Ah, understands. Nowadays I spend my spare time still to play through sometimes a career, also to get to know the play and his programming better. I have briefly had a look at the terrain editor sometimes, but have with ited not yet. *.dat ` see from SHIII/IV we will not presumably be able to copy so simply, we will have to circumscribe many with the help of the Gobelins, unless ..., skwasjer a compassion has with us and creates a new brilliant tool for SH5. A big help would already be if we can import the models and their textures with the Gobelin. Then the other one still is a lot, much time consuming work.

Sailor Steve · 03-25-10, 01:01 PM

Great start, Hans! It's looking good!

THM · 03-29-10, 06:30 PM

Do you intend to add some of the shipyards, drydocks and floating docks as well?

I just discovered some small but sufficent detailed layout drawings (Bremen Vulkan, Germaniawerft Kiel, Deutsche Werft Kiel, Howaldtswerke Kiel, Deschimag Bremen, Howaldtswerke Hamburg, Deutsche Werft Hamburg) in the book 'Geschichte des deutschen U-Bootbaus'. I think it should be enough to cough up some basic scenery (placement of docks, halls etc) in the crucial harbours.

BTW: The book is really great as it has several huge fold out plans of WWII subs (VIIB/C, IX D2, XVII G, XXIII, XXI and XXVI).

Cheers!

03-29-10, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HanSolo78

Everytime I wanted to import a .dat file which has more than one level..
more than 1 3D object only display the first 3dobject.
So.. as many other files do build on this system.. it may be difficult. But maybe we´ll find a workaround.

I'm doing some screenshots of how to fix this issue.

Plus some other information that you might find helpful.

03-29-10, 07:36 PM

How to fix missing messes.
Open the dat file in S3D and select a 3D object.
Refer to the image below and note the green boxes.

The green box after Texture sets/channels: MUST be higher then 3. I suggest 6 after talking to swasjer about this setting.
A higher setting may give weird effects.
But you may want to try that.
Check ALL 3D objects for this setting.

We don't need embedded textures!
Some of your dats may use the exact same textures as other dats.
Why embedded the same texture over and over?
Place the texture in the tex folder and call it from your dats!
One texture, multipule dats!

Note the nameing in green.
I want this dat to use the NPT_Boats_A.dds texture
which is in the tex folder.
It is NOT in the dat file!
The cfg#TXRStructuri nameing comes from the GR2 files
but can be most anything you like.
I'll use this just to keep constant with SH5 nameing convention.

This should fix most issues with placeing SH3/4 dats into SH5

Hope it helps.

HanSolo78 · 03-30-10, 06:26 AM

Hi Privateer!

I tried your suggestions but unfortunately it did not work for me with the band at the docks.
BUT I finally after some hours today I managed to get the band working with animations.. some minor things I had to remove but I think it will not really miss.

Have a look:

03-25-10, 05:01 AM	#1
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	[REL] Harbour Addition_Environment Enhancement Mod v0.5 Since the stock game SH5 comes with much better harbours than SH3/4, I was really happy to see the german harbours much more recognizable. Also the other big harbours which were used for u-boat warfare are much better implemented... but this does not mean that they are perfect. Now the harbours are lifeless, without any moving and activ environment. This thread should be used to announce and release harbour additions which contain new 3d models, terrain changes to harbours, animated people, animated cranes, living environment, etc. Everything that has to do with enhancing the harbour atmosphere. Download: Harbour_Addition_Environment_Enhancement Mod v0.5 for Lite Campaign 1.2 german: Download Harbour_Addition_Environment_Enhancement Mod v0.5 for Open Horizons: Download Video of version 0.5: SKIPPED AT THE MOMENT: Since my first time of SH5 it annoyed me a bit that the piers of harbours are way too high and look somehow ugly. "I figured out how to change these heigh harbour piers.. already done that with Kiel BUT - the problem is that all the terrain around the harbour has to be reworked too because some buildings will sink into the ground otherwise. And this takes time... already used to take me about 3-4 hours." __________________ Last edited by HanSolo78; 12-31-13 at 05:49 AM.

03-25-10, 06:52 AM	#2
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Nice one Hans How did you get on with the Terrain Editor ? I didnt find it that good - camera lock didnt work for a start making changes real difficult __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

03-25-10, 06:55 AM	#3
Regio Sommergibile Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: patrolling CN-69 Posts: 244 Downloads: 181 Uploads: 0	Amazing work __________________

03-25-10, 07:15 AM	#4
Carotio Mr. Bad Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aabenraa, Denmark Posts: 1,488 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	I see the Laboe and Moltenort have been converted nicely into SH5. I recall someone asked for it... Nice __________________ Download my mods from SHMF Follow my photography here taler dansk, speak English, spreche Deutsch, parle français, forstår svenska/norsk, comprendo castellano

03-25-10, 07:57 AM	#7
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	the piers where far to high! right...nice work so far! __________________

03-25-10, 07:27 AM	#5
thfeu58 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Berlin Posts: 272 Downloads: 159 Uploads: 0	Hi Han, I see you out again plunges fully into the work. Toll what you have begun,but as Bigboywooly writes difficult to see on the screens. How do I know you, you have already tried some and is accord on the screens (both monuments from SHIII), can the port workers, security guards, cranes, vehicles, port rail and sluices imported from SHIII? Greeting thfeu58

03-25-10, 07:35 AM	#6
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Nice work

03-25-10, 07:58 AM	#8
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,884 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Very nice Han __________________ Back in the Day

03-25-10, 08:07 AM	#9
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	Hi! @bbw Actually after some learning how to do with the terrain editor I cam along really good... only what used to be a bit difficult was to create straight beaches. @Thfeu58 About the other stuff to import we have to try... I realized that Sh5 has some problems importing .dat files... at least I experienced this until now. Everytime I wanted to import a .dat file which has more than one level.. more than 1 3D object only display the first 3dobject. So.. as many other files do build on this system.. it may be difficult. But maybe we´ll find a workaround. The bad thing.. if it does not work... we´ll get problems with animations, etc. With Granny also animations are possible.. but we would need a appopriate Tool to edit these files! __________________

03-25-10, 09:21 AM	#10
thfeu58 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Berlin Posts: 272 Downloads: 159 Uploads: 0	@Thfeu58 About the other stuff to import we have to try... I realized that Sh5 has some problems importing .dat files... at least I experienced this until now. Everytime I wanted to import a .dat file which has more than one level.. more than 1 3D object only display the first 3dobject. So.. as many other files do build on this system.. it may be difficult. But maybe we´ll find a workaround. The bad thing.. if it does not work... we´ll get problems with animations, etc. With Granny also animations are possible.. but we would need a appopriate Tool to edit these files![/QUOTE] Ah, understands. Nowadays I spend my spare time still to play through sometimes a career, also to get to know the play and his programming better. I have briefly had a look at the terrain editor sometimes, but have with ited not yet. *.dat ` see from SHIII/IV we will not presumably be able to copy so simply, we will have to circumscribe many with the help of the Gobelins, unless ..., skwasjer a compassion has with us and creates a new brilliant tool for SH5. A big help would already be if we can import the models and their textures with the Gobelin. Then the other one still is a lot, much time consuming work.

03-25-10, 01:01 PM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Great start, Hans! It's looking good! __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-29-10, 06:30 PM	#12
THM Seaman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 35 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Do you intend to add some of the shipyards, drydocks and floating docks as well? I just discovered some small but sufficent detailed layout drawings (Bremen Vulkan, Germaniawerft Kiel, Deutsche Werft Kiel, Howaldtswerke Kiel, Deschimag Bremen, Howaldtswerke Hamburg, Deutsche Werft Hamburg) in the book 'Geschichte des deutschen U-Bootbaus'. I think it should be enough to cough up some basic scenery (placement of docks, halls etc) in the crucial harbours. BTW: The book is really great as it has several huge fold out plans of WWII subs (VIIB/C, IX D2, XVII G, XXIII, XXI and XXVI). Cheers!

03-29-10, 07:36 PM	#14
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	How to fix missing messes. Open the dat file in S3D and select a 3D object. Refer to the image below and note the green boxes. The green box after Texture sets/channels: MUST be higher then 3. I suggest 6 after talking to swasjer about this setting. A higher setting may give weird effects. But you may want to try that. Check ALL 3D objects for this setting. We don't need embedded textures! Some of your dats may use the exact same textures as other dats. Why embedded the same texture over and over? Place the texture in the tex folder and call it from your dats! One texture, multipule dats! Note the nameing in green. I want this dat to use the NPT_Boats_A.dds texture which is in the tex folder. It is NOT in the dat file! The cfg#TXRStructuri nameing comes from the GR2 files but can be most anything you like. I'll use this just to keep constant with SH5 nameing convention. This should fix most issues with placeing SH3/4 dats into SH5 Hope it helps.

03-30-10, 06:26 AM	#15
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	Hi Privateer! I tried your suggestions but unfortunately it did not work for me with the band at the docks. BUT I finally after some hours today I managed to get the band working with animations.. some minor things I had to remove but I think it will not really miss. Have a look: __________________