[REL] Revised engine telegraph

Arclight · 03-14-10, 12:36 AM

Quick fix I made for myself to the text feedback in the message box for engine settings. Changed to something more familiar, for example "Extreme speed ahead!" becomes "All ahead flank".

This:

Quote:

1010=All stop
1011=Dead Slow Ahead!
1012=Slow Speed Ahead!
1013=Half Speed Ahead!
1014=Full Speed Ahead!
1015=Extreme Speed Ahead!
1016=Minimum Speed Back!
1017=Back Slow!
1018=Back Normal!
1019=Back Emergency!

Is changed to this:

Quote:

1010=All stop
1011=Ahead dead slow
1012=Ahead slow
1013=Ahead standard
1014=Ahead full
1015=Ahead flank
1016=Back dead slow
1017=Back slow
1018=Back full
1019=Back Emergency!

In menu.txt (..\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Menu)

Extract into JSGME "MODS" folder and enable.

Don't enable if JSGME reports that another mod already made changes to menu.txt, it will break the other mod.

If you feel adventurous, disable all mods and then make the changes listed above yourself, in the mod JSGME reported a conflict with.

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Arclight · 03-14-10, 02:36 AM

Wrong forum?! How the heck did that happen?

Mod move please?

Nisgeis · 03-14-10, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

Wrong forum?! How the heck did that happen?

The answer is PEBKAC! Nice mod though, no more Ludicrous speed ahead with the tartan wake.

tommyk · 03-14-10, 06:24 AM

PEBKAC, hahaha, nice one Nisgeis

Dowly · 03-14-10, 06:25 AM

Thanks!

Arclight · 03-14-10, 07:30 AM

My pleasure, just a tweak I made while working on some other stuff. Figured might as well upload it.

I had to ask.

PEBKAC indeed.

reaper7 · 03-14-10, 07:57 AM

Nice one thanks, the small thing can make such a difference.

Bilge_Rat · 03-16-10, 04:43 PM

very nice, thanks

should'nt this be in the Mod section?

Arclight · 03-16-10, 05:02 PM

Aye, kinda misposted. Still waiting for a mod to move it.

Sailor Steve · 03-16-10, 05:06 PM

Quote:

1011=All ahead 1/3
1012=All ahead 2/3

Would match SH3 better if it was

1011=All Ahead Slow
1012=All Ahead 1/3

Or find out what the real equivalents of the German terms are. Actually I think the version in the game now is pretty much a direct translation of the German terms, as weird as they seem to English-speakers.

Frederf · 03-16-10, 05:20 PM

Code:

1010=All stop
1011=All ahead 1/3
1012=All ahead 2/3
1013=All ahead standard
1014=All ahead full
1015=All ahead flank
1016=All back 1/3
1017=All back 2/3
1018=All back full
1019=All back Emergency!

What do you think about changing some small capitalization, wording things? The "all" refers to the number of engines, but really we have no control over that and I think the voice .wav files don't actually speak the "all" except for "all stop." It's nice when the text matches the voice heard.

I'm guessing at what the english voice .wav files say since I have the German voices. I'm also trying to get the historical german terms used in there but it's tough going.

If the rest of the messages in the chat buffer don't use periods then I guess the propulsion orders shouldn't either. Either way "1/3" should be written out as "one-third" (and 2/3 "two-thirds").

Code:

1010=All stop.
1011=Ahead dead slow.
1012=Ahead slow.
1013=Ahead half.
1014=Ahead full.
1015=Ahead flank!
1016=Back slow.
1017=Back standard.
1018=Back full.
1019=All back emergency!

Arclight · 03-16-10, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Would match SH3 better if it was

1011=All Ahead Slow
1012=All Ahead 1/3

Or find out what the real equivalents of the German terms are. Actually I think the version in the game now is pretty much a direct translation of the German terms, as weird as they seem to English-speakers.

I agree, but I don't really appreciate the "extreme speed", nor the exclamation marks after every one. Besides, if you translate from German to English, it doesn't have to be literal; better imho to use proper terms.

If you find me a good picture of an engine telegraph, I'll use those terms.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frederf

What do you think about changing some small capitalization, wording things? The "all" refers to the number of engines, but really we have no control over that and I think the voice .wav files don't actually speak the "all" except for "all stop." It's nice when the text matches the voice heard.

I'm guessing at what the english voice .wav files say since I have the German voices. I'm also trying to get the historical german terms used in there but it's tough going.

If the rest of the messages in the chat buffer don't use periods then I guess the propulsion orders shouldn't either. Either way "1/3" should be written out as "one-third" (and 2/3 "two-thirds").

Well there are several engines, so it seemed to make sense. And I removed the exclamation marks except for 'back emergency', seemed silly. To be honest, it's a straight rip from Sub Command.

No clue on English voices either.

Was just a quick fix, while working on other things. To you the same proposition: provide a clear picture of an engine telegraph, and it shall be done.

The General · 03-16-10, 06:13 PM

Great work. For the 'ahead flank' order, have you used the wav file from SH3 or does the voice still say 'extreme speed ahead' and the text say 'all ahead flank'?

Arclight · 03-16-10, 06:22 PM

Text change only. Using German voices myself, seem fine, just the text feedback seems a bit unnatural with the literal translation.

Frederf · 03-16-10, 06:23 PM

The ones I have found have more entries than the game allows so it becomes confusing. Here's a fun one: http://thump01.pbase.com/t6/57/32345...9.85ibCcRU.jpg

Anyway, it'd be dumb to have the English voice (or German for that matter) speak aloud something other than what is in the text.

You might synthesize these two bits of information.
http://www.uboatarchive.net/KTBNotesPropulsion.htm
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/255...aphecholot.jpg
and perhaps

Quote:

Telegraph Speed R.P.M (type VII, MAN Diesel Engines)
Kleine Fahrt (dead slow) - 170
Langsame Fahrt (slow) - 240
Halbe Fahrt (slow) - 300
2x Halbe Fahrt (3/5) - 390
Grosse Fahrt (3/4) - 415
2x Grosse Fahrt (4/5) - 445
AK Fahrt (full) - 470

http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/der...ki/Development

03-14-10, 02:36 AM	#2
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Wrong forum?! How the heck did that happen? Mod move please? __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-14-10, 06:24 AM	#4
tommyk Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Near U-995 (Kiel, Germany) Posts: 337 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	PEBKAC, hahaha, nice one Nisgeis __________________ Gute Jagd und fette Beute!

03-14-10, 07:30 AM	#6
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	My pleasure, just a tweak I made while working on some other stuff. Figured might as well upload it. I had to ask. PEBKAC indeed. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-16-10, 04:43 PM	#8
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	very nice, thanks should'nt this be in the Mod section? __________________

03-16-10, 05:02 PM	#9
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Aye, kinda misposted. Still waiting for a mod to move it. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-14-10, 06:25 AM	#5
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Thanks!

03-14-10, 07:57 AM	#7
reaper7 sim2reality Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AM 82 Posts: 2,280 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 30	Nice one thanks, the small thing can make such a difference.

03-16-10, 05:20 PM	#11
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	Code: 1010=All stop 1011=All ahead 1/3 1012=All ahead 2/3 1013=All ahead standard 1014=All ahead full 1015=All ahead flank 1016=All back 1/3 1017=All back 2/3 1018=All back full 1019=All back Emergency! What do you think about changing some small capitalization, wording things? The "all" refers to the number of engines, but really we have no control over that and I think the voice .wav files don't actually speak the "all" except for "all stop." It's nice when the text matches the voice heard. I'm guessing at what the english voice .wav files say since I have the German voices. I'm also trying to get the historical german terms used in there but it's tough going. If the rest of the messages in the chat buffer don't use periods then I guess the propulsion orders shouldn't either. Either way "1/3" should be written out as "one-third" (and 2/3 "two-thirds"). Code: 1010=All stop. 1011=Ahead dead slow. 1012=Ahead slow. 1013=Ahead half. 1014=Ahead full. 1015=Ahead flank! 1016=Back slow. 1017=Back standard. 1018=Back full. 1019=All back emergency!

03-16-10, 06:13 PM	#13
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	Great work. For the 'ahead flank' order, have you used the wav file from SH3 or does the voice still say 'extreme speed ahead' and the text say 'all ahead flank'? __________________ *THE GENERAL*

03-16-10, 06:22 PM	#14
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Text change only. Using German voices myself, seem fine, just the text feedback seems a bit unnatural with the literal translation. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.