[REL] Merchant SpeedSolver Quick Chart

gutted · 03-11-10, 07:02 PM

For those of you who dont have a second computer and who dont like to ALT-TAB to use the speed solver utitly in my "Solution Solver" program. I took the ship lengths and wrote a dirty little program to precompute the values for a range of speeds and times for common merchants. I didn't include speeds lower than 5kts, as they take to long to time. At such slow speeds, you should have no problem getting to within 800m and just shooting from the hip no matter what the starting intercept is.

Usage is the same as the speed solver:
Time the target as it passes through your scope's vertical line.

.ie Cimmaron Class Tanker:
30 seconds from Bow to Stern through the vertical line in the scope = 9kts.

IMPORTANT:
1. Sub MUST be stopped if the scope is NOT at the 000 bearing when timing. If the sub is moving you have to keep scope at 000. Point the sub towards the target just prior to starting the countdown. You have to cancel out your scopes relative movement.

2. Accuracy depends on AOB. Try to do it within 60-120 AOB for best results.

3. Do NOT move the scope once the countdown begins.

All times are rounded to the nearest half second (.ie 4.44 seconds is 4.5 in the chart, while 4.20 seconds is 4 in the chart)

Note: I have the values already precomputed for EVERY ship. I didn't put them all because i wanted it to fit on a single printed page. I may do another chart for escorts. And maybe another one for Big Warships soon.

If you notice a ship that should be on here.. lemme know. I may have been too quick when cutting out all the other ship types and chopped one out that should be here.

gutted · 03-11-10, 07:04 PM

Using the above chart and an AOB wheel i made (it's a spitting image of the wheel in the solution solver, only it's a physical object).. I dont have to do any plotting or stadimeter reading to setup a solution.

AOB wheel gets me into ideal position.
Chart gets me the speed.
Eyeball or Stadimeter ONLY to know when im in ideal torpedo range (i dont find it accurate it to bother with for any other purpose).

Once i set the AOB and speed, i slew my periscope so that the torpedo doesn't turn (look at the TAI map). With the scope in this position.. the range does not matter.

*Note to devs* We need a gyro indicator!!

I play with no map contacts, and rarely do i ever miss.

gutted · 03-12-10, 08:31 PM

I find it hard to belive no-one found this useful.

You can get speed in like 30 seconds without plotting a thing. Guess there aren't enough "No map contacts" users out there.

Onkel Neal · 03-12-10, 08:53 PM

Very cool, I printed it and will use it, thanks

Ragtag · 03-13-10, 01:03 AM

Brilliant, make more for other ships please

emtguf · 03-13-10, 01:42 AM

Thanks for this update. I would bet that as the tools start coming out, and the TDC is fixed more people will get away from map contacts.
This is the first SH game I have used map contacts in since the stadimeter, and general speed gathering is either broken, or very very random.

Stormfly · 03-13-10, 02:13 AM

Thank You man !

MaciejK · 03-13-10, 02:30 AM

Just woke up and found this, brilliand

Athlonic · 03-13-10, 03:12 AM

Works like a charm !

Gutted you are a genius, thanks !

Rip · 03-13-10, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Very cool, I printed it and will use it, thanks

and I plan to later today.

I might just laminate it as well.

sergei · 03-13-10, 07:52 AM

Good stuff gutted.

Junglist · 03-17-10, 02:19 AM

Handy chart, will use it. I use map contacts, but only for recheck myself, so this chart will be wery useful for me!

Weather-guesser · 03-17-10, 12:00 PM

Outstanding idea. Thanks for the extra step for the rest of us.

Oscarkeeper · 03-17-10, 12:43 PM

Very nice. Maybe it's time for me to try some higher realism settings, with this nice chart in hand.

03-11-10, 07:02 PM	#1
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	[REL] Merchant SpeedSolver Quick Chart For those of you who dont have a second computer and who dont like to ALT-TAB to use the speed solver utitly in my "Solution Solver" program. I took the ship lengths and wrote a dirty little program to precompute the values for a range of speeds and times for common merchants. I didn't include speeds lower than 5kts, as they take to long to time. At such slow speeds, you should have no problem getting to within 800m and just shooting from the hip no matter what the starting intercept is. Usage is the same as the speed solver: Time the target as it passes through your scope's vertical line. .ie Cimmaron Class Tanker: 30 seconds from Bow to Stern through the vertical line in the scope = 9kts. IMPORTANT: 1. Sub MUST be stopped if the scope is NOT at the 000 bearing when timing. If the sub is moving you have to keep scope at 000. Point the sub towards the target just prior to starting the countdown. You have to cancel out your scopes relative movement. 2. Accuracy depends on AOB. Try to do it within 60-120 AOB for best results. 3. Do NOT move the scope once the countdown begins. All times are rounded to the nearest half second (.ie 4.44 seconds is 4.5 in the chart, while 4.20 seconds is 4 in the chart) Note: I have the values already precomputed for EVERY ship. I didn't put them all because i wanted it to fit on a single printed page. I may do another chart for escorts. And maybe another one for Big Warships soon. If you notice a ship that should be on here.. lemme know. I may have been too quick when cutting out all the other ship types and chopped one out that should be here. __________________ Solution Solver 2.3.2 - Visual Targeting Tools & Aids Last edited by gutted; 03-14-10 at 09:56 PM.

03-11-10, 07:04 PM	#2
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	Using the above chart and an AOB wheel i made (it's a spitting image of the wheel in the solution solver, only it's a physical object).. I dont have to do any plotting or stadimeter reading to setup a solution. AOB wheel gets me into ideal position. Chart gets me the speed. Eyeball or Stadimeter ONLY to know when im in ideal torpedo range (i dont find it accurate it to bother with for any other purpose). Once i set the AOB and speed, i slew my periscope so that the torpedo doesn't turn (look at the TAI map). With the scope in this position.. the range does not matter. Note to devs We need a gyro indicator!! I play with no map contacts, and rarely do i ever miss. __________________ Solution Solver 2.3.2 - Visual Targeting Tools & Aids

03-12-10, 08:31 PM	#3
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	I find it hard to belive no-one found this useful. You can get speed in like 30 seconds without plotting a thing. Guess there aren't enough "No map contacts" users out there. __________________ Solution Solver 2.3.2 - Visual Targeting Tools & Aids

03-12-10, 08:53 PM	#4
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Very cool, I printed it and will use it, thanks __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

03-13-10, 01:03 AM	#5
Ragtag Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 654 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	Brilliant, make more for other ships please __________________ Intel I7-7800x CPU. 16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz. Asrock Taichi X299 mb Palit RTX 2080Ti. Fortron 1000W PSU. BenQ XR3501R LCD.

03-13-10, 01:42 AM	#6
emtguf Machinist's Mate Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 128 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 3	Thanks for this update. I would bet that as the tools start coming out, and the TDC is fixed more people will get away from map contacts. This is the first SH game I have used map contacts in since the stadimeter, and general speed gathering is either broken, or very very random.

03-13-10, 02:13 AM	#7
Stormfly Serial Port Protector Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,424 Downloads: 370 Uploads: 0	Thank You man ! __________________ Stormy......

03-13-10, 02:30 AM	#8
MaciejK Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mielno / Warsaw - Republic of Poland Posts: 119 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Just woke up and found this, brilliand __________________

03-13-10, 03:12 AM	#9
Athlonic Chief Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: France Posts: 311 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 2	Works like a charm ! Gutted you are a genius, thanks ! __________________ ________________________ Gimme tons of patches ! Athlonic's MCCD "More Crew Commands by Dialog" MOD for Silent Hunter 5 Version 1.04 SH5 1.2.0 Ready Athlonic's TSAF Mod : Torpedo_Speed_Abilitie_Fix_for_TDC

03-13-10, 07:52 AM	#11
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Good stuff gutted.

03-17-10, 02:19 AM	#12
Junglist Watch Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Handy chart, will use it. I use map contacts, but only for recheck myself, so this chart will be wery useful for me!

03-17-10, 12:00 PM	#13
Weather-guesser Lieutenant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Albany, New York USA Posts: 260 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	Outstanding idea. Thanks for the extra step for the rest of us. __________________ NAVY! It's not just a job. It's a Buck Seventy-Five an hour!

03-17-10, 12:43 PM	#14
Oscarkeeper Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 13 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Very nice. Maybe it's time for me to try some higher realism settings, with this nice chart in hand.