Question for ALL JSGME users

JScones · 04-10-09, 01:38 AM

As we all know, a separate copy of JSGME must be installed into each game that you want to use it with. So, if you want to use it with, say, five games, you need to install it five times. Mods are stored under each game.

A few people have, over the years, asked whether I would make a version that you install into one central place and "point" to each game that you want to use it with. Mods and config files for each game would be stored in this central place. You'd simply select the game you want from a drop down list in JSGME and take it from there.

Each method has its advantages and disadvantages...

Separate installs of JSGME
Advantages:
- self contained and managed within each game
- easy, simple interface; open and your mods for that game are all laid out for you

Disadvantages:
- requires multiple installations of JSGME, roughly a footprint of 570kb per installation

Combined install of JSGME
Advantages:
- centralised; all mods stored in one spot
- small once-only install footprint size

Disadvantages:
- requires users to manually add games into JSGME (albeit a simple select-and-click process)
- requires users to perform extra steps to change game profiles (ie select a different game from a drop down list of those you've added)
- requires extra options to be added to the interface, potentially making it less simple than it is now

There's prolly others, but these give you an idea.

So, as I don't want to maintain two separate developments of JSGME, which method would you prefer for the next major version (v3.0) of JSGME?

When answering, pls think of *all* games that you use it with. If you are a member of other game forums, feel free to forward this question on to those communities as well, but pls report back here with the consensus.

Onkel Neal · 04-10-09, 02:14 AM

I'm pretty happy with a separate install for each game I use (SH3, SH4). The footprint is nice and small, and I can avoid confusion.

My 2 cents

melnibonian · 04-10-09, 02:51 AM

I would go for the separate intallation as well. Although the combined one seems better it has the potential to get things mixed up, and the required space is not really a problem for modern computers.

NEON DEON · 04-10-09, 03:08 AM

I would say to avoid confusion that one install per game is the way to go.

Given the size of hard drives these days, I would say 500kb for each game install is not much of a disadvantage.

Merchant Raider · 04-10-09, 04:23 AM

I would agree with the last 3 reply s,and keep it separate
Keep up the good work !,

TheDudTorpedo · 04-10-09, 04:28 AM

Seperate installation is good

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 04-10-09, 04:42 AM

seperate all the way

jimbob · 04-10-09, 04:46 AM

I'd say separate. But the other option could probably
work just fine for me too.

I never really "install" the app after the first time.

I just copy the exe to where I need it. it's really not that big.
And then i have shortcuts on somewhere renamed after the game
im currently modding. (not always silent hunter games)

Awsome tool btw, many thanks for that.

nikbear · 04-10-09, 05:09 AM

Personally speaking.I'd say separate installation for each game,its less confusing,far simpler and as already mentioned JSGME hardly takes up any room so.......Dedicated JSGME for each game

Vikinger · 04-10-09, 05:10 AM

I would also say seperate cuz how many games do we actually use that have or use JSGME?

And also the fact that you will need to add more options to the other version.
Iam allways in for, keep it as simply it can be

So therefor my vote goes to seperated version.

Vikinger.

And thx for doing this JScones

TDK1044 · 04-10-09, 05:11 AM

Separate for me.

Carotio · 04-10-09, 05:17 AM

I only see one advantage with the combined solution:
radio mods

due to their size, one time only enabling would be nice.

But still, I go for the separate version.

bert8for3 · 04-10-09, 05:22 AM

I likewise prefer separate for the same reasons others have mentioned.

Fincuan · 04-10-09, 06:10 AM

I'd prefer combined due to simplicity of use and reduced workload in some tasks.

At "worst" I had 15 JSGME installations, so when a new version came up it was quite a job to update them all. Same with mods: I have three installations of IL2 that I use JSGME for. All three share many of the same mods, so it would simplify things a lot if I didn't have to have three copies of the mods to update each time a new version of it is released. SH4 is in almost he same situation: separate installation for RFB and TMO, with the two having many other mods(OM and some others) that are the same for both. Again it would be easier if the both just loaded it from one place.

Whichever way you decide to go it's still an excellent program, as you can see from the 15 installations

momo55 · 04-10-09, 06:17 AM

Separate for me too . I have 3 installed now (2 SHIV and 1 SHIII) and i'm fine with them . Simple to use this way .

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Separate	81	83.51%
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04-10-09, 01:38 AM	#1
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Question for ALL JSGME users As we all know, a separate copy of JSGME must be installed into each game that you want to use it with. So, if you want to use it with, say, five games, you need to install it five times. Mods are stored under each game. A few people have, over the years, asked whether I would make a version that you install into one central place and "point" to each game that you want to use it with. Mods and config files for each game would be stored in this central place. You'd simply select the game you want from a drop down list in JSGME and take it from there. Each method has its advantages and disadvantages... Separate installs of JSGME Advantages: - self contained and managed within each game - easy, simple interface; open and your mods for that game are all laid out for you Disadvantages: - requires multiple installations of JSGME, roughly a footprint of 570kb per installation Combined install of JSGME Advantages: - centralised; all mods stored in one spot - small once-only install footprint size Disadvantages: - requires users to manually add games into JSGME (albeit a simple select-and-click process) - requires users to perform extra steps to change game profiles (ie select a different game from a drop down list of those you've added) - requires extra options to be added to the interface, potentially making it less simple than it is now There's prolly others, but these give you an idea. So, as I don't want to maintain two separate developments of JSGME, which method would you prefer for the next major version (v3.0) of JSGME? When answering, pls think of all games that you use it with. If you are a member of other game forums, feel free to forward this question on to those communities as well, but pls report back here with the consensus.

04-10-09, 02:14 AM	#2
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,284 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	I'm pretty happy with a separate install for each game I use (SH3, SH4). The footprint is nice and small, and I can avoid confusion. My 2 cents __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

04-10-09, 02:51 AM	#3
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I would go for the separate intallation as well. Although the combined one seems better it has the potential to get things mixed up, and the required space is not really a problem for modern computers. __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

04-10-09, 03:08 AM	#4
NEON DEON Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,207 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 5	I would say to avoid confusion that one install per game is the way to go. Given the size of hard drives these days, I would say 500kb for each game install is not much of a disadvantage. __________________ Diesel Boats Forever!

04-10-09, 04:23 AM	#5
Merchant Raider Machinist's Mate Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 126 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 0	I would agree with the last 3 reply s,and keep it separate Keep up the good work !, __________________ I THINK THEREFORE I AM , I THINK ?

04-10-09, 04:28 AM	#6
TheDudTorpedo Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 128 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Seperate installation is good __________________ Download GWX 3.0 Gold here : http://www.thegreywolves.com/ Download SH3 Commander 3.2 here : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=733

04-10-09, 04:42 AM	#7
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in my sub Posts: 2,741 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	seperate all the way __________________ Gruß

04-10-09, 04:46 AM	#8
jimbob Ensign Join Date: May 2005 Location: Suomi Finland Posts: 224 Downloads: 365 Uploads: 6	I'd say separate. But the other option could probably work just fine for me too. I never really "install" the app after the first time. I just copy the exe to where I need it. it's really not that big. And then i have shortcuts on somewhere renamed after the game im currently modding. (not always silent hunter games) Awsome tool btw, many thanks for that.

04-10-09, 05:09 AM	#9
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Personally speaking.I'd say separate installation for each game,its less confusing,far simpler and as already mentioned JSGME hardly takes up any room so.......Dedicated JSGME for each game __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

04-10-09, 05:10 AM	#10
Vikinger Captain Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 514 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 6	I would also say seperate cuz how many games do we actually use that have or use JSGME? And also the fact that you will need to add more options to the other version. Iam allways in for, keep it as simply it can be So therefor my vote goes to seperated version. Vikinger. And thx for doing this JScones __________________

04-10-09, 05:11 AM	#11
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Separate for me.

04-10-09, 05:17 AM	#12
Carotio Mr. Bad Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aabenraa, Denmark Posts: 1,488 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	I only see one advantage with the combined solution: radio mods due to their size, one time only enabling would be nice. But still, I go for the separate version. __________________ Download my mods from SHMF Follow my photography here taler dansk, speak English, spreche Deutsch, parle français, forstår svenska/norsk, comprendo castellano

04-10-09, 05:22 AM	#13
bert8for3 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,124 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	I likewise prefer separate for the same reasons others have mentioned. __________________

04-10-09, 06:10 AM	#14
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I'd prefer combined due to simplicity of use and reduced workload in some tasks. At "worst" I had 15 JSGME installations, so when a new version came up it was quite a job to update them all. Same with mods: I have three installations of IL2 that I use JSGME for. All three share many of the same mods, so it would simplify things a lot if I didn't have to have three copies of the mods to update each time a new version of it is released. SH4 is in almost he same situation: separate installation for RFB and TMO, with the two having many other mods(OM and some others) that are the same for both. Again it would be easier if the both just loaded it from one place. Whichever way you decide to go it's still an excellent program, as you can see from the 15 installations Last edited by Fincuan; 04-10-09 at 06:34 AM.

04-10-09, 06:17 AM	#15
momo55 Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 297 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	Separate for me too . I have 3 installed now (2 SHIV and 1 SHIII) and i'm fine with them . Simple to use this way . __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing , but in rising up every time we fail .