[REQ] Uboat Gradations scales

vanjast · 03-08-09, 08:59 AM

Does anybody know how to get rid of the Scale lines on the UBoat scopes.
I've managed to get rid of the text, but worried that the scales might be in code

Thanks for any help
Van

keltos01 · 03-08-09, 10:11 AM

yes it can be done, post the files for me and I'll modify them sometimes this week.

Keltos

ps but if you really wanna help me back find me real proof of how those lines looked on an IJN periscope

vanjast · 03-08-09, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01

yes it can be done, post the files for me and I'll modify them sometimes this week.

Hmm, which files are you talking about.
I've modified the scope skin files, and didn't see it there.
I found the text pieces in the menu_1024_768.ini file, but haven't found the scale lines here yet. I've tried editing some marker dds file... no luck yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01

ps but if you really wanna help me back find me real proof of how those lines looked on an IJN periscope

It's bad enough finding the UBoat scope stuff, but I'll have a go.

keltos01 · 03-08-09, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanjast

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01

yes it can be done, post the files for me and I'll modify them sometimes this week.

Hmm, which files are you talking about.
I've modified the scope skin files, and didn't see it there.
I found the text pieces in the menu_1024_768.ini file, but haven't found the scale lines here yet. I've tried editing some marker dds file... no luck yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01

ps but if you really wanna help me back find me real proof of how those lines looked on an IJN periscope

It's bad enough finding the UBoat scope stuff, but I'll have a go.

I think it's in the alpha channel of the periscope.dds

but we have to be sure which one it uses, I modified a german scope but not both I think...

it's just drawing with photoshop really but I'm not too good at it.

keltos

vanjast · 03-08-09, 12:09 PM

I've played with all the available 'periscope.dds' files = no luck.

I'll just carry on looking

Hitman · 03-08-09, 03:11 PM

The scale is encoded

but if you use the cameras.dat values I told you in the readme file they will go out of the mask. Of course you will also have a smaller field of view than supposed, but since screen resolution is limited it doesn't hurt to be able to see images bigger (Reducing FOV does the same effect as increasing the zoom).

joegrundman · 03-08-09, 07:47 PM

so what does this scale do, here?

(from sh3periscope dds in sh4)

03-09-09, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman

so what does this scale do, here?

(from sh3periscope dds in sh4)

that sure looks like it to me

vanjast · 03-09-09, 04:58 AM

I've masked that one out in those image files - makes no difference.
What i managed to do in the menu_1024_768.ini file is move the text into the 'masked' top left corner, but when I saw the zoom value indicator change, I sort of knew this was hardcoded

.

vanjast · 03-09-09, 05:09 AM

In the Cameras.dat file, you have only one FOV and zoom section that works on both US and Axis subs. This causes a problem if you want to match the zoom scales/FOV/Bearing indicators to the correct scaling.

One can scale the US scopes by changing the skin files, but cannot do this with the Axis scope because of this hardcoding.
Well you might think why not scale both to the Axis sub - and then the Bearing indicator will be out of sync for both scopes.

I think the only solution is to overlay the skin file over the hard coded section and hope it fits OK.

vanjast · 03-09-09, 08:20 AM

Decided to combine the two together, so as not to mess it up too much

.

Attack scope with minimal night time additions.. Just managed to cover the scales, although not completely

And obsscope.. with sextant thingy

As the UBoat scope is now it should just pass the AOBWheel test... I'll put this up later tonight.

keltos01 · 03-09-09, 08:25 AM

how did you do it ? what files did you change and how ?

keltos

vanjast · 03-09-09, 08:36 AM

The Uboat scaling is very close to mine (or the other way round

).

I just played with the Alpha and Red layers, and blanked out the Green and Blue.
to get the scales to align I took a screen grab (image is the same size) and after adjusting the opacity (to make it see-through), positioned it over the the alpha layer.

These are the scope skin DDS files of course..

Hitman · 03-09-09, 08:46 AM

Quote:

I've masked that one out in those image files - makes no difference.
What i managed to do in the menu_1024_768.ini file is move the text into the 'masked' top left corner, but when I saw the zoom value indicator change, I sort of knew this was hardcoded

.

LOL I told you it was hardcoded

Quote:

In the Cameras.dat file, you have only one FOV and zoom section that works on both US and Axis subs. This causes a problem if you want to match the zoom scales/FOV/Bearing indicators to the correct scaling.

One can scale the US scopes by changing the skin files, but cannot do this with the Axis scope because of this hardcoding.
Well you might think why not scale both to the Axis sub - and then the Bearing indicator will be out of sync for both scopes.

I think the only solution is to overlay the skin file over the hard coded section and hope it fits OK.

You have another alternative:

In the US periscopes the game doesn't place reticles or whatever, they are in the Alpha Channel of the periscope mask. So you can:

1.- Increase the FOV like I suggested (Angularvalue=47) and use the mask to hide the reticle in the german scope

2.- Make a bigger mask for the US scope, effectively still using all field of view.

vanjast · 03-09-09, 11:38 AM

From what I remember ( I must check again), when I started this scheme, is that when playing with the zoom factors, you could misalign the bearing indicator at the top of the scope, so I set the zoom factors to match the bearing indicator, then set the gradations on the scope skin masks/layers.

This was the reason why I avoided going the larger FOV mask route

03-08-09, 08:59 AM	#1
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,734 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	[REQ] Uboat Gradations scales Does anybody know how to get rid of the Scale lines on the UBoat scopes. I've managed to get rid of the text, but worried that the scales might be in code Thanks for any help Van

03-08-09, 10:11 AM	#2
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	yes it can be done, post the files for me and I'll modify them sometimes this week. Keltos ps but if you really wanna help me back find me real proof of how those lines looked on an IJN periscope __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

03-08-09, 03:11 PM	#6
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	The scale is encoded but if you use the cameras.dat values I told you in the readme file they will go out of the mask. Of course you will also have a smaller field of view than supposed, but since screen resolution is limited it doesn't hurt to be able to see images bigger (Reducing FOV does the same effect as increasing the zoom). __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

03-08-09, 07:47 PM	#7
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	so what does this scale do, here? (from sh3periscope dds in sh4) __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

03-09-09, 05:09 AM	#10
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,734 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	In the Cameras.dat file, you have only one FOV and zoom section that works on both US and Axis subs. This causes a problem if you want to match the zoom scales/FOV/Bearing indicators to the correct scaling. One can scale the US scopes by changing the skin files, but cannot do this with the Axis scope because of this hardcoding. Well you might think why not scale both to the Axis sub - and then the Bearing indicator will be out of sync for both scopes. I think the only solution is to overlay the skin file over the hard coded section and hope it fits OK. Last edited by vanjast; 03-09-09 at 08:24 AM.

03-08-09, 12:09 PM	#5
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,734 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	I've played with all the available 'periscope.dds' files = no luck. I'll just carry on looking

03-09-09, 04:58 AM	#9
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,734 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	I've masked that one out in those image files - makes no difference. What i managed to do in the menu_1024_768.ini file is move the text into the 'masked' top left corner, but when I saw the zoom value indicator change, I sort of knew this was hardcoded .

03-09-09, 08:20 AM	#11
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,734 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	Decided to combine the two together, so as not to mess it up too much. Attack scope with minimal night time additions.. Just managed to cover the scales, although not completely And obsscope.. with sextant thingy As the UBoat scope is now it should just pass the AOBWheel test... I'll put this up later tonight.

03-09-09, 08:25 AM	#12
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	how did you do it ? what files did you change and how ? keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

03-09-09, 08:36 AM	#13
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,734 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	The Uboat scaling is very close to mine (or the other way round ). I just played with the Alpha and Red layers, and blanked out the Green and Blue. to get the scales to align I took a screen grab (image is the same size) and after adjusting the opacity (to make it see-through), positioned it over the the alpha layer. These are the scope skin DDS files of course..

03-09-09, 11:38 AM	#15
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,734 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	From what I remember ( I must check again), when I started this scheme, is that when playing with the zoom factors, you could misalign the bearing indicator at the top of the scope, so I set the zoom factors to match the bearing indicator, then set the gradations on the scope skin masks/layers. This was the reason why I avoided going the larger FOV mask route