LLRT - Little longer repair times

h.sie · 09-01-08, 02:38 PM

Moin!

for my personal use, i have modified the great LRT (longer repair times) mod from nvdrifter

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136136

to fit my personal taste. the repair times now are a compromise between stock SH3 and the original LRT mod. light damage will take 1 - 20 minutes time and heavy damage will take some hours to repair. for me that sounds okay.

nvdrifter realised longer repair times by drastically reducing crew efficiency. the major disadvantage of that method is, that flooding-times of the u-boat-compartments have to be enlarged just as well drastically, so that the balance between the crew efficiency and the flooding water is still the same.

that means: even in the case of a direct hit and a huge leak, the water is flowing very slowly into the boat, but the weak crew needs hours to stop the water. or the boat sinks many hours later after the hit, if the crew is too weak. so there are no more dramatic minutes fighting against the flooding water as in stock SH3.

in my modification, the efficiency is not reduced as much as in the original LRT mod, so that the flooding times can be much shorter. in the case of a huge leak, a compartment is now filled in 30-45 minutes, game over. okay, that is still not realistic but much better than in LRT, and with a little bit of phantasy, one can say, that the big leakage couldn't be repaired completely.....

i am happy with that, but i'm still testing it and now i want to know, if people here are interested to use it. if yes, i will share my modification with you.

one last word: it will NOT be an JSGME-ready mod, because the basic.cfg file looks different for every user, depending on his individual mod configuration. instead of that, i will post an easy DO-IT-YOURSELF-manual.

the manual can be found on my filefront-page
http://hosted.filefront.com/hennings

or on Bts-Mods
http://www.bts-mods.com/?page=sh3user=h.sie

Greetings,
h.sie

wdq4587 · 09-01-08, 08:36 PM

I am now using NYGM 3.0 for I can not suffer 7 minutes loading time of GWX in my old 1G RAM PC.

I just ask can I add Long Repair Time in NYGM for most part have being trying make realism, no Long Repair Time seems really strange.

h.sie · 09-02-08, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdq4587

I am now using NYGM 3.0 for I can not suffer 7 minutes loading time of GWX in my old 1G RAM PC.

I just ask can I add Long Repair Time in NYGM for most part have being trying make realism, no Long Repair Time seems really strange.

if i'm informed correctly, NYGM has included the LRT mod from nvdrifter....just activate it......

wdq4587 · 09-02-08, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

if i'm informed correctly, NYGM has included the LRT mod from nvdrifter....just activate it......

Thanks! I will check it after I be home. Still do not have enough time to read manual more.

I am also interesting on your tutorial if possibile. I agree compromise to get a balance since there are some parameters are hard coded you can not adjust.

wdq4587 · 09-02-08, 07:45 PM

I have readed the NYGM manual and it seems Long Repair Time in NYGM is just like your idea. Not as long as original MOD.

jean74 · 09-03-08, 05:51 AM

Hi, H.Sie

First, many thanks for your work.

I am very interested to test your MOD.
Please, could you give me your "do it yourself" manual

?

Thanks for your reply

Best regards,

Jean

PS : I'm French, (so please excuse too my bad english),

h.sie · 09-03-08, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jean74

Hi, H.Sie

First, many thanks for your work.

I am very interested to test your MOD.
Please, could you give me your "do it yourself" manual

?

Thanks for your reply

Best regards,

Jean

PS : I'm French, (so please excuse too my bad english),

hi jean,

you have to thank nvdrifter - he did the work. i only modified his mod for my personal taste. i will start to translate my manual into english, so you have to wait a little bit.......

greetings!

jean74 · 09-03-08, 11:50 AM

Good afternoon H.Sie

Many Thanks for your reply.

Ok, no problems, I can wait. Take your time to do it

!

Greetings

Jean

h.sie · 09-04-08, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jean74

Good afternoon H.Sie

Many Thanks for your reply.

Ok, no problems, I can wait. Take your time to do it

!

Greetings

Jean

hi jean,

translating takes time, but in the meantime i can build an test LLRT mod for you, based on your individual mod configuration.

activate all your desired JSGME-mods and after that, please mail me your Basic.cfg and Zones.cfg files. i will modify them and build an JSGME-ready mod of that. i do that because i am interested in the opinion of others, how it works for them.

greetings!

h.sie · 10-07-08, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jean74

Good afternoon H.Sie

Many Thanks for your reply.

Ok, no problems, I can wait. Take your time to do it

!

Greetings

Jean

Hi Jean,

sorry for the late response. you can find the manual in english language on my filefront-page

http://hosted.filefront.com/hennings/

gretings, h.sie

02-27-09, 06:37 AM

Hi Hsie,

I just found this and am now using it to manually include LRT in my GWX setup for WolvesAtWar. I tried to get LRT-Lite 2.03 working with Enhanced Damage Effects, Open Hatch and Mikhayl's ACM (based on OLC) but for some reason I keep getting a CTD if I start in the 7th Flotilla.

So thanks big time for your manual, it should solve my problem and allow me to have more realistic repair times.

h.sie · 02-27-09, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

Hi Hsie,

I just found this and am now using it to manually include LRT in my GWX setup for WolvesAtWar. I tried to get LRT-Lite 2.03 working with Enhanced Damage Effects, Open Hatch and Mikhayl's ACM (based on OLC) but for some reason I keep getting a CTD if I start in the 7th Flotilla.

So thanks big time for your manual, it should solve my problem and allow me to have more realistic repair times.

Hi UberGruber,

thanks for the reply.

Have fun!
H.Sie

Otto Heinzmeir · 03-05-09, 11:21 PM

I am using this as well. Thanks fro the manual how to add it. I like the 20 minute repair time. Nice compromise. I havn't taken any damage yet since using it. Playing in the Happy time still

h.sie · 03-06-09, 02:36 AM

I'm glad about the replies. Perhaps it is worth to be published on the SH3 Mods & Utilities list......

RoaldLarsen · 03-06-09, 02:18 PM

H.sie,

Your Mod has piqued my interest in the whole issue of damage control, as modelled in SHIII.

First I read your manual, then I had a look in Zones.cfg for the first time. It seems that everything that can be listed as damaged on the <F7> screen has its own section in zones.cfg and in each section is a parameter labelled FloodingTime. Some of the sections are compartments, and tht rest are items such as snorkel, radio, compressor, etc. In stock, each submarine compartment has a FloodingTime of 120 and all other items on a submarine have a FloodingTime of 59.9999996.

The approach taken in LRT is to reduce the speed at which the crew can make repairs, by changing the values of Interval3_<compartment#> in Basic.cfg, and then reducing the speed at which compartments flood, by increasing the values of FloodingTime for compartments.

Why not use a different approach? What happens if you leave the Interval3_<compartment#> and compartment FloodingTime values unchanged and instead increase the FloodingTime values for items that are not compartments? Does this not work? Does changing the FloodingTime parameter for non-compartments have any effect?

09-01-08, 02:38 PM	#1
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	LLRT - Little longer repair times Moin! for my personal use, i have modified the great LRT (longer repair times) mod from nvdrifter http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136136 to fit my personal taste. the repair times now are a compromise between stock SH3 and the original LRT mod. light damage will take 1 - 20 minutes time and heavy damage will take some hours to repair. for me that sounds okay. nvdrifter realised longer repair times by drastically reducing crew efficiency. the major disadvantage of that method is, that flooding-times of the u-boat-compartments have to be enlarged just as well drastically, so that the balance between the crew efficiency and the flooding water is still the same. that means: even in the case of a direct hit and a huge leak, the water is flowing very slowly into the boat, but the weak crew needs hours to stop the water. or the boat sinks many hours later after the hit, if the crew is too weak. so there are no more dramatic minutes fighting against the flooding water as in stock SH3. in my modification, the efficiency is not reduced as much as in the original LRT mod, so that the flooding times can be much shorter. in the case of a huge leak, a compartment is now filled in 30-45 minutes, game over. okay, that is still not realistic but much better than in LRT, and with a little bit of phantasy, one can say, that the big leakage couldn't be repaired completely..... i am happy with that, but i'm still testing it and now i want to know, if people here are interested to use it. if yes, i will share my modification with you. one last word: it will NOT be an JSGME-ready mod, because the basic.cfg file looks different for every user, depending on his individual mod configuration. instead of that, i will post an easy DO-IT-YOURSELF-manual. the manual can be found on my filefront-page http://hosted.filefront.com/hennings or on Bts-Mods http://www.bts-mods.com/?page=sh3user=h.sie Greetings, h.sie Last edited by h.sie; 01-03-10 at 06:09 AM.

03-06-09, 02:36 AM	#14
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	I'm glad about the replies. Perhaps it is worth to be published on the SH3 Mods & Utilities list...... __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

09-01-08, 08:36 PM	#2
wdq4587 A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 71 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I am now using NYGM 3.0 for I can not suffer 7 minutes loading time of GWX in my old 1G RAM PC. I just ask can I add Long Repair Time in NYGM for most part have being trying make realism, no Long Repair Time seems really strange.

09-02-08, 07:45 PM	#5
wdq4587 A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 71 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I have readed the NYGM manual and it seems Long Repair Time in NYGM is just like your idea. Not as long as original MOD.

09-03-08, 05:51 AM	#6
jean74 Medic Join Date: May 2006 Location: Near Lake Leman and Geneva, FRANCE Posts: 162 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 0	Hi, H.Sie First, many thanks for your work. I am very interested to test your MOD. Please, could you give me your "do it yourself" manual ? Thanks for your reply Best regards, Jean PS : I'm French, (so please excuse too my bad english),

09-03-08, 11:50 AM	#8
jean74 Medic Join Date: May 2006 Location: Near Lake Leman and Geneva, FRANCE Posts: 162 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 0	Good afternoon H.Sie Many Thanks for your reply. Ok, no problems, I can wait. Take your time to do it ! Greetings Jean

02-27-09, 06:37 AM	#11
Uber Gruber Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Hi Hsie, I just found this and am now using it to manually include LRT in my GWX setup for WolvesAtWar. I tried to get LRT-Lite 2.03 working with Enhanced Damage Effects, Open Hatch and Mikhayl's ACM (based on OLC) but for some reason I keep getting a CTD if I start in the 7th Flotilla. So thanks big time for your manual, it should solve my problem and allow me to have more realistic repair times.

03-05-09, 11:21 PM	#13
Otto Heinzmeir Weps Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wilhelmshaven Local Pub Posts: 361 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I am using this as well. Thanks fro the manual how to add it. I like the 20 minute repair time. Nice compromise. I havn't taken any damage yet since using it. Playing in the Happy time still

03-06-09, 02:18 PM	#15
RoaldLarsen Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Control Room Posts: 355 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	H.sie, Your Mod has piqued my interest in the whole issue of damage control, as modelled in SHIII. First I read your manual, then I had a look in Zones.cfg for the first time. It seems that everything that can be listed as damaged on the <F7> screen has its own section in zones.cfg and in each section is a parameter labelled FloodingTime. Some of the sections are compartments, and tht rest are items such as snorkel, radio, compressor, etc. In stock, each submarine compartment has a FloodingTime of 120 and all other items on a submarine have a FloodingTime of 59.9999996. The approach taken in LRT is to reduce the speed at which the crew can make repairs, by changing the values of Interval3_<compartment#> in Basic.cfg, and then reducing the speed at which compartments flood, by increasing the values of FloodingTime for compartments. Why not use a different approach? What happens if you leave the Interval3_<compartment#> and compartment FloodingTime values unchanged and instead increase the FloodingTime values for items that are not compartments? Does this not work? Does changing the FloodingTime parameter for non-compartments have any effect?