We attack Nato on tuesday with our new subs

[Von Tonner]

This should be interesting.

http://www.citizen.co.za/index/artic...esc=46651,1,22

[Dan D]

Good luck and good hunting!



A single German newspaper source claims that during a manoeuvre the U 24 passed the anti-submarine escorts of the USS Enterprise undetected, fired a simulated torpedo salvo, took a periscope foto (below) and then popped up near the carrier which made the US Admiral very angry. Arrh.

Can anyone confirm this story?


http://www.abendblatt.de/daten/2007/08/08/779801.html

Another incident: U 18 periscope shot of a carrier; video claims that it costed an US Vice Admiral his job and that picture was kept secret for 10 years (1:50 min, G)



Please post some pics.

[Packerton]

WTF war? this is a joke right?

[Safe-Keeper]

Despite the best efforts of the carrier battle groups, it occasionally happens that submarines reach the 'enemy' carrier in exercises, as far as I know. Must be really fun for the sub crew, less so for the escorts.

[Jimbuna]

The Australian Collins Class was reported to have made it through to a CVN a year or so ago in a similar exercise IIRC :hmm:

[bookworm_020]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

The Australian Collins Class was reported to have made it through to a CVN a year or so ago in a similar exercise IIRC :hmm:

I think the USN is still yet to forgive the RAN for that one! It was a reason they leased the swedish sub for a couple of years so they could get some practice tracking conventional subs.

[Lafferty]

I think i remember that one.

[bookworm_020]

The sub was HMAS Waller, the carrier was USS Abraham Lincon. It happened during RIMPAC 2000. It also 'Sank' two Los Angles class subs as well!

In 2001 during Exercise Tandem Thrust she sank two USN amphibious assault ships in water that had a depth of between 75 and 100 meters!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

The sub was HMAS Waller, the carrier was USS Abraham Lincon. It happened during RIMPAC 2000. It also 'Sank' two Los Angles class subs as well!

In 2001 during Exercise Tandem Thrust she sank two USN amphibious assault ships in water that had a depth of between 75 and 100 meters!

Yep, great stuff ....but quite sad when you come to think of the present crew number problems the RAN are having in keeping them at sea

[AntEater]

The US Navy always seems to have had a problem with any non soviet diesel build after WW2.
"Carrier sinking" stories are known from Germany (U-24), the Netherlands (Dolfijn, I think) and Norway (HNMS Ula), at least.
Apparently U-24 also "sank" a 688 during the carribean cruise in 1998.
On a german navy forum (you've got to be ex navy to post there) some sonar operator told how he tracked the 688 while a US navy officer beside him "started to sweat" as they got a firing solution on the 688 without being noticed.

[Oberon]

Didn't a US sub manage to fire a flare onto the flight deck of a carrier once in one of these ASW exercises?

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Didn't a US sub manage to fire a flare onto the flight deck of a carrier once in one of these ASW exercises?

That would be a great one-way radio exchange

USS Lincoln - Alright, Asheville, we give up. Where are you

*Flare*

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

That would be a great one-way radio exchange

USS Lincoln - Alright, Asheville, we give up. Where are you

*Flare*

Kinda like what the USS Nautlus did once, put four exersize fish in to four ships about 15 mins before the end of the exersize (the last one under the flag ship) then surfaced 500 yards abeam and signaled "How you like them apples charlie?"

I wonder if our Master of Defense Bill was aboard her for that one? :hmm:

[Chock]

This sort of thing has been happening since before WW1:

In 1904, an A Class submarine commanded by Reginald Bacon did exactly this. Umpires of a naval exercise that year determined that Bacon's 1st Flotilla had sunk two battleships (they claimed they had sunk more). CIC of the Home Fleet, Sir Arthur Kynvet Wilson (who had been a real enemy of submarine development) was naturally infuriated by this.

When, during the exercise, a submarine signalled his ship with 'Respectfully submit have torpedoed you. Respectfully submit you are sunk. Respectfully submit you are out of the exercise.' apparently Kynvet Wilson grabbed the semaphore flags from his signaller and sent 'You be damned' with them personally.

Chock

[Lafferty]

lol that funny.