[TEC] Question about lightning

[leovampire]

I havn't seen lightning ing the game but see it is in the game files and that there is a tweek file for it in Mini Tweeker when it says Height 20 do they mean 20meters? Is what the game is set for?

If that is the case is this why we never see lightning in the game?

Dave

[kapitan_zur_see]

yeah, i found that too. I believe i tried quite about everything that was doable to mod the lightings back. Without success. Did you also looked for the textures? there are a set of 4 .TGA textures in Tnormal and Tlowres named lightning0x_add.tga (i tried removing this "_add" thing also). they're no RGB without Alpha channel. Since SH4 appears to more or so only use .DDS files (with RGB + Alpha), i converted those set in dds ,creating an alpha channel like they're made for those kind of textures in SH' (took exemple of things like foam textures etc.). It didn't work, no matter using dds or tga with rgb+alpha, alpha only, inverting greyscale etc. Also tried in conjunction with modding scene.dat. Still no luck, so at that point, i have strong belief it has been removed hard-coded way...! Give it a try though

[leovampire]

about lightning but it was a long time ago and I don't remember where I guess I will have to look for it again and see what can be done.

[Fearless]

where is that file located and what is the tweakfile called as I don't have it in my mini tweaker?

[switch.dota]

I don't know if it was a graphical glitch but I did experience lightning. Wierd thing is that it only happened when swiotching views. And no, it wasn't a random artifact, it was a rather realistic looking arced lightning.

[kapitan_zur_see]

Originally Posted by switch.dota

I don't know if it was a graphical glitch but I did experience lightning. Wierd thing is that it only happened when swiotching views. And no, it wasn't a random artifact, it was a rather realistic looking arced lightning.

mmm... i didn't but could make sense as when i changed the lightning part values in scene.dat with minitweaker to match those of SH3, it made thunder to occurs apparently far closer from the sub, that is, whenever i was switching view from interior to freecam or bridge a far bigger thunder sound could be heard but only one time right after switching. Still i didn't saw a lightning but it may appear just once and in my back. Maybe something is interfering with lightnings graphics just after you switch to outside view as we know that some of the effects SH4 is using are triggered not instantly but rather few seconds after you switch view. Could you make any further testing? might be hardware related (like sun bloom not occuring on ATI's cards).

[CaptainCox]

Had a quick look at the scene.dat in hexed

Debug..P...EffectNames.....@Lightning01.....@Light ning02.....@Lightning03.....@Lightning04.....Heigh t....A....MinDistance....B....MaxDistance...4C.... MinTime... A....MaxTime..

It is there. But as kapitan_zur_see said...could be a graphic glitch or a bug plain and simple. I wonder if elanaiba could confirm if the lightning actually works or not.

[kapitan_zur_see]

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

Had a quick look at the scene.dat in hexed

It is there. But as kapitan_zur_see said...could be a graphic glitch or a bug plain and simple. I wonder if enalabia could confirm if the lightning actually works or not.

Who's that enalabia?? some dev that can be reached?

[CaptainCox]

Yea, he is one of the Dev's. He prowls SS once in a while
AND MY BAD! its elanaiba !!!!

[kapitan_zur_see]

mmm... i'll try to catch on with this guy :hmm: might help a lot cause this thing, while not essential at all, is frustrating. Would help, since a storm in SH4 don't look very much like one! it's a "calm" storm

[Fearless]

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

Had a quick look at the scene.dat in hexed

It is there. But as kapitan_zur_see said...could be a graphic glitch or a bug plain and simple. I wonder if elanaiba could confirm if the lightning actually works or not.

CC did you copy and paste the Debug text above or did u type it in? Reason: @Lightning02 not @Light ning02 same with height shown as heigh t

[leovampire]

edit the scene file because some things are interlinked and you can throw off all the reflection and lighting effects in the entire game found that out the hard way and had to start with a whole new scene file all over again!

[leovampire]

the particles files in library also help to control lightning effects so if someone wants to take a look at that and compair them to the shIII particle files maybe they can find the problem. Someone who is a good hex editor

[Bando]

Don't know why, but the name Anvart keeps popping up.

Maybe because he's called the Hexmaster.........

You may give him a PM

[kapitan_zur_see]

Originally Posted by leovampire

the particles files in library also help to control lightning effects so if someone wants to take a look at that and compair them to the shIII particle files maybe they can find the problem. Someone who is a good hex editor

mmm...:hmm: yes indeed you're right, there's lots of modifiers for each of the 4 lightnings. Values varies slightly from the sh3 particles.dat. I'm going to have a closer look tomorrow, might be important. As particles.dat don't have it's minitweaker counterpart, i'll have to go hex editing, wich is less comfy

I'll keep in touch