Happy Hunting Grounds - Page 3

Brag · 05-14-07, 05:10 AM

A visual map showing sea lanes would be the greatest. So far, I have identified 3. Will check out a tanker route during my present patrol. (04 Aug. 1940) GWX 1.03

Gotta make sure that info provided by Kaleuns states what version of game they are using.

Canovaro · 05-14-07, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Brag

A visual map showing sea lanes would be the greatest. So far, I have identified 3. Will check out a tanker route during my present patrol. (04 Aug. 1940) GWX 1.03

Gotta make sure that info provided by Kaleuns states what version of game they are using.

That is exactly what I have in mind.

Can you confirm that GWX and the other supermods change shipping routes and frequencies (talking about merchants).

Stoli · 05-14-07, 10:21 AM

We set sail to the AM52 promise land in our new Type III to see all this "Tonnage". All the way there we were forced under by air patrol, dogged by DD's and armed trawlers. Finally make it, setup patrol and surface to attack sound contacts only to find fishing boats. The crew's morale is down from the long journey, repeated air bombardments and boat repairs. I'm cursing the "faulty" radio reports about this area. We submerge and wait for darkness to cover our retreat. Four hours before nightfall, Warship, long range, moving slow and closing. One hour later half the hydrophone dial is nothing but slow spinning screws. Five completed patrols and NO convoys… Whatever is heading are way is massive.

Here’s the rub, the sea is calm, sun is up, visibility is high, there is no chance of surfacing to gain distance on the convoy (Air Patrols are relentless). Can’t waste the batteries, they will be needed for the escape. I’m leaning towards a strategy of putting one fish on each large freighter/tanker, going deep, reload and come back at after DD’s have left to finish of the wounded. Or would it be best to salvo two large ones and assure the kill?

johan_d · 05-14-07, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Canovaro

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We need a database for this, a BDU hotline...

enter:
encounter:-- ship, convoy, dd, etc
datum;-- time of day
location;-- bdu grid, like be49
comment;-- severe dd here!, watch out.

results from the database just show the info.. all compiled together..

if anyone want to pick this off, joomla with a facile form will do.

I can have it up in short time, but it will be a telnet database connection, not webbased., nor your regular info connections, but sufficient. PM me in you are interrested?

Johan_d, sounds interesting, but what excactly would this look like?
How to make this visual with a database?
See my ideas some posts before. I'm planning on working out a visual map.
In fact, I've already started.

I dont think it is easy with a map, with so much ships sailing around it may be cluttered like hell.
Maybe a simple database, where one enters a grid name, like BE, and a year and month. Once can then see what ships are reported that month in that sector. Like this:

Query: BE 1942 04

Result:
BE10 merchant
BE25 destroyer
BE45 convoy

Possibly with comments of the Kaleun who entered it in the database.
Also, a date can also be used, so that when one enters a date, yy/mm/dd the database gives results for a week after the date too.
It could be presented on a map, in one knows how.. must be doable.

Canovaro · 05-14-07, 12:37 PM

I think we could do both!
We practically need the same contact info from the community.

I would need:

Type: Single merchant
Grid: BE342
Year: 1941
Mod: GWX
Heading: SSW

KeptinCranky · 05-14-07, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Canovaro

I think we could do both!
We practically need the same contact info from the community.

I would need:

Type: Single merchant
Grid: BE342
Year: 1941
Mod: GWX
Heading: SSW

don't forget speed estimate slow/medium/fast and if actually encountered and attacked (or spotted and left alone) type and more specific speed

pasting those onto a map, to eventually form clear shipping lanes would definitely work and noting the mod(s) involved seems fairly important since I do suspect changes made in convoy routes by GWX at least, I'm encountering convoys where i never saw 'em before using RUB and/or stock sh3

Brag · 05-14-07, 10:08 PM

U-123 The Happy Hunting Grounds research ship, confirms that Tanker Allee really exists. One large and one medium tankers sinking. 26,733 tons.

Canovaro · 05-15-07, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KeptinCranky

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Originally Posted by Canovaro

I think we could do both!
We practically need the same contact info from the community.

I would need:

Type: Single merchant
Grid: BE342
Year: 1941
Mod: GWX
Heading: SSW

don't forget speed estimate slow/medium/fast and if actually encountered and attacked (or spotted and left alone) type and more specific speed

pasting those onto a map, to eventually form clear shipping lanes would definitely work and noting the mod(s) involved seems fairly important since I do suspect changes made in convoy routes by GWX at least, I'm encountering convoys where i never saw 'em before using RUB and/or stock sh3

Yes every supermod gets its own map, and the years 39-45 will be in 7 colors from white to red.

Don't know about speed and attack info, I don't think that is relevant here. We want to know if and what we will likely encounter when we go to a certain spot, not how fast they go imo.
Historically that would have been vital info, but not in this project imo.

I'm already working on it now.
The biggest challenge is to keep the graphic file size as low as possible. I work with gif's, it's working out alright.
Soon we will have a community contact collection map.
Hey that sounds good..

Canovaro · 05-15-07, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Brag

U-123 The Happy Hunting Grounds research ship, confirms that Tanker Allee really exists. One large and one medium tankers sinking. 26,733 tons.

Apparently the Happy Hunting Grounds research ship's role is not limited to research. Nice tonnage!

Brag · 05-15-07, 06:41 AM

[quote=Canovaro][quote=KeptinCranky]

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Originally Posted by Canovaro

I think we could do both!
We practically need the same contact info from the community.

I'm already working on it now.
The biggest challenge is to keep the graphic file size as low as possible. I work with gif's, it's working out alright.
Soon we will have a community contact collection map.
Hey that sounds good..

Sounds great! This will save weeks of stooging around empty seas and will yield a dramatic rise in tonnage.

Telgriff · 05-15-07, 05:56 PM

Giving this a bump to keep it active!

Will have to go and check my grids tonight afterwork to find where I located the 3 convoys within 100km's of each other.

KeptinCranky · 05-15-07, 06:49 PM

that's definitely helpful Telgriff

U-303
reports from grid CO59
8-11-41 2.00u

4-11-41 20.55u
CO6455 warship heading w 12kts

7-11-41 5.07u
CO6475 Large Cargo escorted by DD type unkown
wnw slow

7-11-41 20.12u
CO5989 warship reported heading 10 14knts detected leaving Tobruk
Intercepted and identified contact as 2 DDs 1DE
sank 2 evaded third
(they were coming straight for me what was I to do?)

Canovaro · 05-16-07, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KeptinCranky

sank 2 evaded third
(they were coming straight for me what was I to do?)

Panic!

Thanks for the contact reports, Kaleuns!
I'll use these for testing. These will also be the first to appear on the live map.

Machen Sie weiter so.

Brag · 05-16-07, 12:55 PM

U-123
Aug 1940, still trying to confirm tanker route. After spotting and sinking 2 tankers business been slow for a week.

Jimbuna · 05-16-07, 02:43 PM

Be more aggressive

:rotfl: :rotfl:

05-14-07, 05:10 AM	#31
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	A visual map showing sea lanes would be the greatest. So far, I have identified 3. Will check out a tanker route during my present patrol. (04 Aug. 1940) GWX 1.03 Gotta make sure that info provided by Kaleuns states what version of game they are using. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

05-14-07, 10:08 PM	#37
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	U-123 The Happy Hunting Grounds research ship, confirms that Tanker Allee really exists. One large and one medium tankers sinking. 26,733 tons. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

05-15-07, 05:56 PM	#41
Telgriff 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 272 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Giving this a bump to keep it active! Will have to go and check my grids tonight afterwork to find where I located the 3 convoys within 100km's of each other. __________________ Back into the hunt after far too long, GWX 3 Gold, SH3 Commander, DiD Rules, 27% realism and rising Intel Core2Duo 6400 GeForce 8800GTS 4 Gig DDr2

05-16-07, 12:55 PM	#44
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	U-123 Aug 1940, still trying to confirm tanker route. After spotting and sinking 2 tankers business been slow for a week. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

05-16-07, 02:43 PM	#45
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,334 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Be more aggressive :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

05-14-07, 10:21 AM	#33
Stoli A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 74 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We set sail to the AM52 promise land in our new Type III to see all this "Tonnage". All the way there we were forced under by air patrol, dogged by DD's and armed trawlers. Finally make it, setup patrol and surface to attack sound contacts only to find fishing boats. The crew's morale is down from the long journey, repeated air bombardments and boat repairs. I'm cursing the "faulty" radio reports about this area. We submerge and wait for darkness to cover our retreat. Four hours before nightfall, Warship, long range, moving slow and closing. One hour later half the hydrophone dial is nothing but slow spinning screws. Five completed patrols and NO convoys… Whatever is heading are way is massive. Here’s the rub, the sea is calm, sun is up, visibility is high, there is no chance of surfacing to gain distance on the convoy (Air Patrols are relentless). Can’t waste the batteries, they will be needed for the escape. I’m leaning towards a strategy of putting one fish on each large freighter/tanker, going deep, reload and come back at after DD’s have left to finish of the wounded. Or would it be best to salvo two large ones and assure the kill?

05-14-07, 12:37 PM	#35
Canovaro Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,062 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	I think we could do both! We practically need the same contact info from the community. I would need: Type: Single merchant Grid: BE342 Year: 1941 Mod: GWX Heading: SSW

05-15-07, 06:49 PM	#42
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	that's definitely helpful Telgriff U-303 reports from grid CO59 8-11-41 2.00u 4-11-41 20.55u CO6455 warship heading w 12kts 7-11-41 5.07u CO6475 Large Cargo escorted by DD type unkown wnw slow 7-11-41 20.12u CO5989 warship reported heading 10 14knts detected leaving Tobruk Intercepted and identified contact as 2 DDs 1DE sank 2 evaded third (they were coming straight for me what was I to do?)