[REL] SH4 - Torpedo damage 2x

CaptainKobuk · 04-06-07, 02:43 AM

:rotfl:100% PATCH 1.3 COMPATIBLE:rotfl:

Torpedo damage 1.5x or 2x http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X2MUJQDR

Torpedo damage 1.5x or 2x http://media4.filewind.com/g.php?filepath=11692

Choose if you want to increase your torpedo power by 50%(1.5x) or 100%(2x)

Install with JSGME (works with both SH4 and SH3)
http://www.users.on.net/%7Ejscones/s...sgme_setup.exe

files effected:
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\Data\Library\Torpedoes_US.zon
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What this mod does:
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The hitting power of every USA submarine torpedo in the game was increased. Both the radius and the actual hit points damage were increased. Those are the only two moddable numbers for each torpedo's hitting power.

Why this mod?:
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A recent other mod raised the radius to 20 feet and the damage to 1000.(on the most powerful torpedo i guess). My numbers are much less that power. My goal was to raise hitting power but not create super torpedos that might result in there being not enough challenge for me. Though i RESPECT any other modder's choices for what's fun for them. It is fun to see terrific explosions. My mod just makes them still rely a lot on chance critical hits. I guess.

The original SH4 torpedo power seemed weak to me. From memory, i recall that when a standard mk14 US Torpedo hit ANY CARGO SHIP squarely in the middle, it definitely ALWAYS made a hole and ALWAYS did damage. The only exception being duds. I realize that the modelling of damage in this game may be just calculating hitpoints without showing damage until a certain threshold is reached. Whatever.

The most common scenario in the unmodded game that i wanted to change for the better was to many shots doing no visible damage. I've seen enough actual war films or training films of torpedo hits to know they do tremendous damage to cargo ships when properly targeted. Transports had thin hulls. A warship is something different because of the extra steel thickness of the hull.

My goal is a fair game that's still a challenge but also fun to play because torpedo impact results are more visually and quantitatively dramatic.

My beta testing results indicate the following...
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2x is enough power to sink most medium cargo ships and destroyers with one shot an average of around 70% of the time. I'm no expert on this, but i do know that that's historically quite a high if not an impossible average.

1.5x is currently being tested.

CaptainCox · 04-06-07, 07:14 AM

Cheers man will gives this a go as I am fed up with not seeing the impact holes on the targets...hope this one might do the trick.

Spaxspore · 04-06-07, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

Cheers man will gives this a go as I am fed up with not seeing the impact holes on the targets...hope this one might do the trick.

agreed, last night i shot 3 torps spread shot into a hvy cruiser, 2 nailed its rear damaging props etc, and 1 nailed right below toward the left of the forward guns ... ship kept goin at 30kts... no flooding at all...

Def will try this THANKX

BTW, there 2 to HUGe impact holes in his rear... no flooding no slowing down... Hell i could see hikoromo in the engine room

CaptainCox · 04-06-07, 08:09 AM

Well it does work in that respect that 1 torp 1 ship sorta :p... still no damage graphics showing but... I tried on 3 different ships, square on. I think its not your mod, its most likely a bug or something.

Spaxspore · 04-06-07, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

Well it does work in that respect that 1 torp 1 ship sorta :p... still no damage graphics showing but... I tried on 3 different ships, square on. I think its not your mod, its most likely a bug or something.

ok but if u hit them do they flood or sink?

CaptainKobuk · 04-07-07, 06:06 PM

I updated the mod to provide a choice between either a 100%(2x) increase in torpedo hitting power or a 50%(1.5x) increase.

I think 50% is for keeping closer to realism. That enough extra power to still add a lot of extra kick to the game.

100% is for those who like extra magnum force in everything, including their computer games.

Doomgiver · 04-24-07, 07:30 AM

does this work with the 1.2 patch

ReallyDedPoet · 04-24-07, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

Well it does work in that respect that 1 torp 1 ship sorta :p... still no damage graphics showing but... I tried on 3 different ships, square on. I think its not your mod, its most likely a bug or something.

I have seen damage graphics, strange why you are not:hmm:

RDP

liverpoolfan · 06-13-07, 03:57 PM

How about with the 1.2 patch? If so, how did you do this? Ta

ReallyDedPoet · 06-13-07, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liverpoolfan

How about with the 1.2 patch? If so, how did you do this? Ta

Can't see why it would not work, install with JSGME.

RDP

MaxT.dk · 06-13-07, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liverpoolfan

How about with the 1.2 patch? If so, how did you do this? Ta

It should work fine with v1.2.

You can do that by tweaking Torpedoes_US.zon, look for MinEF/MaxEF and MinRadius/MaxRadius

liverpoolfan · 06-14-07, 12:41 PM

Max ... I thought that editing that only worked on version 1.1? Am I mistaken then?

MaxT.dk · 06-14-07, 05:33 PM

Well, IF I'm not mistaken, some of the values are still readable in 1.2... And IF I'm mistaken, then I was using my own torpedoes tweak file that I never released for the public as I never completed it...

GeoffBelding · 07-14-07, 07:16 AM

I am happy to report that Torpedo 2x works as advertised in patch 1.3.

I have discovered that I don't need to set torpedo depths according to the target vessel, the default 6ft depth seems better, that is more effective - I killed a battleship at anchor with just 1 torpedo.

Happy Trails

Geoff

STEED · 07-14-07, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffBelding

I am happy to report that Torpedo 2x works as advertised in patch 1.3.

I have discovered that I don't need to set torpedo depths according to the target vessel, the default 6ft depth seems better, that is more effective - I killed a battleship at anchor with just 1 torpedo.

Happy Trails

Geoff

ONE!!!!!!

I sunk two heavy Cruisers last night and both took three to four torps.

PS: with this mod

04-06-07, 02:43 AM	#1
CaptainKobuk Helmsman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 107 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	[REL] SH4 - Torpedo damage 1.5x or 2x (updated) :rotfl:100% PATCH 1.3 COMPATIBLE:rotfl: Torpedo damage 1.5x or 2x http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X2MUJQDR Torpedo damage 1.5x or 2x http://media4.filewind.com/g.php?filepath=11692 Choose if you want to increase your torpedo power by 50%(1.5x) or 100%(2x) Install with JSGME (works with both SH4 and SH3) http://www.users.on.net/%7Ejscones/s...sgme_setup.exe files effected: ----------------------------------- \Data\Library\Torpedoes_US.zon ----------------------------- What this mod does: ---------------------------------- The hitting power of every USA submarine torpedo in the game was increased. Both the radius and the actual hit points damage were increased. Those are the only two moddable numbers for each torpedo's hitting power. Why this mod?: ---------------------------------- A recent other mod raised the radius to 20 feet and the damage to 1000.(on the most powerful torpedo i guess). My numbers are much less that power. My goal was to raise hitting power but not create super torpedos that might result in there being not enough challenge for me. Though i RESPECT any other modder's choices for what's fun for them. It is fun to see terrific explosions. My mod just makes them still rely a lot on chance critical hits. I guess. The original SH4 torpedo power seemed weak to me. From memory, i recall that when a standard mk14 US Torpedo hit ANY CARGO SHIP squarely in the middle, it definitely ALWAYS made a hole and ALWAYS did damage. The only exception being duds. I realize that the modelling of damage in this game may be just calculating hitpoints without showing damage until a certain threshold is reached. Whatever. The most common scenario in the unmodded game that i wanted to change for the better was to many shots doing no visible damage. I've seen enough actual war films or training films of torpedo hits to know they do tremendous damage to cargo ships when properly targeted. Transports had thin hulls. A warship is something different because of the extra steel thickness of the hull. My goal is a fair game that's still a challenge but also fun to play because torpedo impact results are more visually and quantitatively dramatic. My beta testing results indicate the following... ------------------------------------------------------- 2x is enough power to sink most medium cargo ships and destroyers with one shot an average of around 70% of the time. I'm no expert on this, but i do know that that's historically quite a high if not an impossible average. 1.5x is currently being tested. Last edited by CaptainKobuk; 07-23-07 at 02:46 AM.

04-06-07, 07:14 AM	#2
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Cheers man will gives this a go as I am fed up with not seeing the impact holes on the targets...hope this one might do the trick. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

04-06-07, 08:09 AM	#4
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Well it does work in that respect that 1 torp 1 ship sorta :p... still no damage graphics showing but... I tried on 3 different ships, square on. I think its not your mod, its most likely a bug or something. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

06-14-07, 05:33 PM	#13
MaxT.dk Rough night at Langtrees brothel Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 480 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, IF I'm not mistaken, some of the values are still readable in 1.2... And IF I'm mistaken, then I was using my own torpedoes tweak file that I never released for the public as I never completed it... __________________ http://maxt.dk/archives/2007/03/22/s...nter-4-cheats/ Get KillerSub MOD and bring the Hell back to Earth! The FUN way to play SH4! Now with Rail Guns!

07-14-07, 07:16 AM	#14
GeoffBelding Seaman Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 41 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Patch 1.3 I am happy to report that Torpedo 2x works as advertised in patch 1.3. I have discovered that I don't need to set torpedo depths according to the target vessel, the default 6ft depth seems better, that is more effective - I killed a battleship at anchor with just 1 torpedo. Happy Trails Geoff

04-07-07, 06:06 PM	#6
CaptainKobuk Helmsman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 107 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I updated the mod to provide a choice between either a 100%(2x) increase in torpedo hitting power or a 50%(1.5x) increase. I think 50% is for keeping closer to realism. That enough extra power to still add a lot of extra kick to the game. 100% is for those who like extra magnum force in everything, including their computer games.

04-24-07, 07:30 AM	#7
Doomgiver Bosun Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 65 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	does this work with the 1.2 patch

06-13-07, 03:57 PM	#9
liverpoolfan Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 13 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	How about with the 1.2 patch? If so, how did you do this? Ta

06-14-07, 12:41 PM	#12
liverpoolfan Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 13 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Max ... I thought that editing that only worked on version 1.1? Am I mistaken then?