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07-12-16, 02:36 PM
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Grey Wolf
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Thanks Capn
The reason I was looking at the names.cfg is because I thought that was where the game decided what the ship is called in the Recognition Manual. I guess I could be wrong about this!
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07-12-16, 03:29 PM
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Ok, I'm going out on a limb here, but it seems to me that the Large Modern Composite Merchant and the Big Modern Freighter in FOTRS are two different ships. The quote "Nagara Maru" is not modeled in FOTRS. The Nagara Maru does not show up in v1.3 and since the Museum in v.06 does not work for me I have no way of comparing.
 These two silhouette are different. One is of the TMO Nagara Maru and the other is FOTRS version. TMO version  FOTRS version  They sure look different to me. Of course I'm old and my eyesight isn't what it used to be.
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07-12-16, 03:42 PM
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Grey Wolf
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I know it sound confusing - but they are all exactly the same thing
Welcome to The Twilight Zone (Cue Music)
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07-12-16, 03:51 PM
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Sink'em All
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OK, I've had my last say in the Nagara Maru matter. It really doesn't make my difference in the long run, more important matters await us.
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07-12-16, 04:07 PM
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Grey Wolf
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Sorry cdrsubron7 - I did not mean to make fun of you
 The reason they look different is because they use a different ship model The TMO version is the stock Nagara Model The FOTRS version uses a new model, they pretty much replaced it with a new ship, but kept the same roster name, that is why it looks completely different
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07-12-16, 04:10 PM
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Grey Wolf
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And to compound the confusion - the same ship can have different names in the rec manual, the names.cfg and the ME
It can be called 3 different things and still be the same thing  That's why I did the Twighlight Zone thing - sorry - I did not mean to wind you up
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07-12-16, 04:19 PM
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07-12-16, 04:27 PM
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CTD - it's not just a job
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Ahhh.... I found something - again. I posted about this before, but I "studied" the anomaly this time (caution: I've only "processed" maybe 10% of my screen grabs)... I'm using a Quick Mission that AOTD_Max made (I think), where their group was testing the BB Nagato. This is where I first encountered the purposeful use of the Catapult Ship. They also have the Bismark in the mission. Everything is animated fine, everything seems to work just fine, and the Bismark (and the Nagato and the Catapult ships) are definitely works of art. However, the Bismark has what I was originally calling "a shadow". I will now call it "a reflection". I'm not sure of how many other ships may have this issue, but I do not notice this happening until the ship "dies". It's still shooting away, but I can no longer "target" it in the auto-targeting. The mission itself is odd in that I never get a "she's going down, sir!" or any other "kill" confirmation. I'll have to process one more picture, now that I think of it, where the Bismark is still shooting her big guns in the rear turret, which is about to go underwater... Very cool. Anyway, I'll give you a couple shots here. Just click on one of them, if you care to deal with all the garbage that photobucket tries to throw up in front of you, 'cause there's several more over there. In the first shot here, the Bismark has died, explosions are ripping her apart. Notice what appears to be an out of focus picture of her, like a "reflection" of her, but a bit off. The 2nd shows that you can see the "reflection" is of the ship's portion that has just slipped beneath the waves, basically like you're seeing the top of the deck in a mirror, so I'm assuming that the reflection for the ship is somehow "wrapped around". You'll notice "normal" reflections from the ship in the water also.
 Notice the detail in the deck, or around the anchor cut-outs, the chains. The paint job, etc...  Is there a way to fix that reflection stuff? Quote:
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07-12-16, 04:45 PM
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Grey Wolf
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And I finally managed to get my lazy ass in gear and finish the tankers
           
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07-12-16, 04:59 PM
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We really need Sofu Gan I think I must have been spoilt - Ducimus put it into TMO 2.5 for me I run Asiatic Fleet careers mostly, but whenever I sail out of Pearl, I always make a point of stopping at Lot's Wife I know that from there on it - it's about to get serious 
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-------------------------------------------------- Authority should derive from the consent of the governed, not from the threat of force If the only tool you have is a hammer, pretty soon everything starts to look like a nail FOTRS Ultimate http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=226270 The future of SH4 - coming to a PC near you soon
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07-12-16, 05:00 PM
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Sink'em All
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Great work, max. Look forward to inspecting them at 1200 yds from periscope depth.
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07-12-16, 05:00 PM
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07-12-16, 05:04 PM
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No, we're all so far in over our heads we don't know what DarkWraith's Validator is! Well, CapnScurvy might but...... Please feel free to jump in here whenever you feel like we're too pitiful not to help!  Thanks Jeff!
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07-12-16, 05:37 PM
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Okay, I ran TheDarkWraith's SH Validator on the stock game and here is what I got:
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Oh. If you do as I do and rename SH4.exe to SH4FOTRS, the validator will refuse to recognize your installation.
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