[WIP] Lighthouses mod

Originally Posted by Anvar1061

This is the first thing I did. But the result is the same. Then I went the hard way.

Didn't you forget to add a 'human' submarine ?

[Anvar1061]

Originally Posted by Kendras

Didn't you forget to add a 'human' submarine ?

It seems I made him work.


https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview...a+Plate+Rus.7z

Originally Posted by Anvar1061

It seems I made him work.

First post updated with new lighthouses, and no more searchlights but naval bases, so you can see the names on your navigation map.

[Anvar1061]

Originally Posted by Kendras

First post updated with new lighthouses, and no more searchlights but naval bases, so you can see the names on your navigation map.

Type 408 not defined for LHLaPlate!

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Originally Posted by Anvar1061

Type 408 not defined for LHLaPlate!

What are you testing Anvar?

Here with all the latest mod/patches, everything works fine

Originally Posted by Kendras

First post updated with new lighthouses, and no more searchlights but naval bases, so you can see the names on your navigation map.

Yesterday I have found this useful website, with accurate positions of many French lighthouses, navigation beacons and landmarks that we weren't even aware of:

http://test.chemineur.fr/viewtopic.php?t=4114

Originally Posted by gap

Yesterday I have found this useful website, with accurate positions of many French lighthouses, navigation beacons and landmarks that we weren't even aware of:

http://test.chemineur.fr/viewtopic.php?t=4114

Very nice and useful ! However, I don't see Tourelle des Vieux Moines.

If we want to add all this stuff, we really need to create generic models !

[Anvar1061]

Originally Posted by gap

What are you testing Anvar?
Here with all the latest mod/patches

Where? Show me the most current version.

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Originally Posted by Anvar1061

Where? Show me the most current version.

Tourelle de la Plate alpha v12

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Tourelle de la Plate v12 - patch 1

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Tourelle de la Plate v12 - patch 12

Enable them in that order. Besides improving water spray effect from high waves, the last patch features an unfinished wave foam effect which uses a stopgap texture and it is meant just for testing purposes. Shouldn't you likeit, you can replace patch 12 with:

Tourelle de La Plate v12 - Patch 10

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Originally Posted by Kendras

This controller is used for destroyed models of the U-Boats' guns.

So, you have a 3D model that you want to be destroyed and replaced by a new 3D model or a special effect (particles). Link to this model a destructible damage boxe. Add the ObjectRemains controller as child of the node containing the 3D model. Specify the exact name of the node which will contain the new 3D model or effect. This node will be stored in a Library file.

Thanks, that's right the information I needed

Originally Posted by gap

I had this feeling...

The picture is a bit blurred, but the light/dark gray area at the base of the tower is likely the unpainted base, the lower portion of it looking darker because of fouling and algae caking it; conversely, it seems that the tower and the tower-top metal platform might have been painted black, and/or a color which might have appeared black on a B/W film, i.e. red. My best guess for the WWII-era painting is either plain red (that would be compatible with a red lateral mark) or black/red (isolated danger mark). What do you think?

Please let me know if you find any better picture or a description of what La Plate's painting and illumination color/phase might have been during the 30-40's

No remarks?

Originally Posted by gap

it seems that the tower and the tower-top metal platform might have been painted black, and/or a color which might have appeared black on a B/W film, i.e. red. My best guess for the WWII-era painting is either plain red (that would be compatible with a red lateral mark) or black/red (isolated danger mark). What do you think?

Hard to say. Plain black is very unlikely. Maybe plain red. I don't think it was an isolated danger mark, else, they would have just added a simple buoy, and not built a whole concrete tower.

Edit : But a red tower with a green light ? (from 1911)

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Originally Posted by Kendras

Hard to say. Plain black is very unlikely.

I agree

Originally Posted by Kendras

Maybe plain red.

Maybe
Look at the picture below portraying the nearby Tourelle du Chat:

 

You can see a coat of what looks like a solid red paint under the current black/yellow paintwork. Other lighthouses or day beacons with solid red or mostly red paint (possibly used as lateral marks):


Tourelle Richelieu (La Rochelle)


Tourelle des Vignettes (Saint-Nazaire)


Tourelle du Pignon (Rivière de Penerf estuary)

Originally Posted by Kendras

Edit : But a red tower with a green light ? (from 1911)

You are right, it makes little sense, unless the steady green light was replaced with something else on a later date...

Originally Posted by Kendras

I don't think it was an isolated danger mark, else, they would have just added a simple buoy, and not built a whole concrete tower.

That's not so uncommon in especially dangerous areas, where the beacon and the light on top of it (if any) are better spotted from a longer distance than it is possible with an 'isolated danger' buoy:


Tourelle du Lavardin


Tourelle des Brillantes


Tourelle des Birvideaux


Tourelle du Soulard (Lorient)

[propbeanie]

From https://www.us-lighthouses.com/faq.php

Q. Why are lighthouses painted differently? Do these designs represent something?
A. Lighthouses are painted different colors and designs to make them daymarks. So, if you were a Mariner out at sea during the day, you could look for the lighthouse. Let says for instance that you were off the coast of NC and you saw black and white swirling stripes down the lighthouse, you would then know that you were by Cape Hatteras. Or say you saw a lighthouse that had black and white diamond shapes on it....you would then know that you were farther south by Cape Lookout.

Q. If lighthouses are painted different to distinguish them during the day, how can you tell them apart in the dark?
A. Similar enough, each lighthouse also flashes a different sequence of light for the exact same reason. Cape Hatteras flashes a white light every 7.5 seconds. (The light actually rotates, but it gives the appearance of flashing from a distance.) Cape Lookout flashes a white light every 15 seconds. So, by scanning the horizon for the lighthouse, and then watching the light, you were able to figure out where on the seaboard you were.

All you need to find is the local "plan" for the lighthouses circa 1938 or so... easy peasy

The US University of North Carolina apparently has someone interested in lighthouses around the world:
https://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/lighthouse/
perhaps someone there could direct you to historical data?

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

From https://www.us-lighthouses.com/faq.php


All you need to find is the local "plan" for the lighthouses circa 1938 or so... easy peasy

Originally Posted by propbeanie

The US University of North Carolina apparently has someone interested in lighthouses around the world:
https://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/lighthouse/
perhaps someone there could direct you to historical data?

We know that website all too well: it is our main source of information

I have never thought of getting in touch with the guys at UNC. That's not a bad idea, though I suppose that the information we need is more easily found in some dusty French archive lol

Originally Posted by gap

I have never thought of getting in touch with the guys at UNC. That's not a bad idea, though I suppose that the information we need is more easily found in some dusty French archive lol

http://www.archives-finistere.fr/sit...ement_AD29.pdf

Probably in 4S ...

Originally Posted by gap

That's not so uncommon in especially dangerous areas, where the beacon and the light on top of it (if any) are better spotted from a longer distance than it is possible with an 'isolated danger' buoy: ......

.... and here also : http://www.haka-spirit.net/spip.php?article159

Especially this sentence :

La Grande Vinotière à laisser du côté que l’on veut.

Which means you can pass on the right or on the left of this red tower.

Originally Posted by gap

You are right, it makes little sense, unless the steady green light was replaced with something else on a later date...

OK. I agree to choose plain red mask, with a west buoy light, or simply red fix light.