[REL] Real Fleet Boat 2.0 - Page 86

konate · 05-21-16, 12:24 AM

Hey! New subsim player with noob problems setting up RFB.

Just now failed my first training convoy mission. Lots of things different from the youtube videos I've been learning from without RFB.

It can get frustrating watching videos with things I don't have access to. I am very anxious to gain proficiency.

konate · 05-21-16, 01:03 AM

No worries. I got it. I needed to have the U-boat missions for it to work.

Jimbuna · 05-21-16, 04:51 AM

Pleased you're sorted and welcome to SubSim matey

Skyworm · 07-12-16, 04:20 PM

Cheers,

just a question:
Has anyone already experience with silent hunter 4 and real fleet boat 2 under windows 10?
Does it run or not?

Thanks!

XTBilly · 07-13-16, 01:00 AM

Yes, I did give it a go before a couple of months.
No problems.

Cheers, Billy.

Skyworm · 07-13-16, 04:03 PM

That's good to hear!

Thanks!

orcsoul · 11-25-16, 01:14 PM

Hmm.. I seem to be running into a 90% reliable crash with RFB 2.0 w/ Patch every time I attempt to load up the any sort of external view (Attack 'scope, external camera, deck, etc) in a Gar class running out of Pearl. Both the Porpoise and Tambor (which really makes it confusing, as the Tambor/Gar are(were?) identical and use the same files?) work just fine however.

The situation:

100% clean and fresh (Steam) install of SH4 w/ UBoat Missions, verified running 1.5 patch. Absolutely no other mods have ever been loaded, and the only two active in JSGME are RFB2.0 followed by the April patch. JSGME has been installed to the SH4 install directory and RFB is loading normally as far as I've been able to tell which is to say there have been no other errors or issues so far.

I'll start up the game, fire up a new campaign, accept my first mission and load up into the command room of the sub. From there I'll plot a course on the Nav map, return to the command room, and then attempt to move to the deck... then boom CTD.

Any time I've attempted to do anything that would pull up a view of the world outside the command room in the Gar class.

In an attempt to rule out RFB as the source of the issue I've also loaded up a fresh campaign in a Gar out of Pearl in the stock game w/ no mods. There are no issues there however and everything works as expected.

Suggestions? Known issue that I just missed searching for?

Edit:

Oookay... so just decided I'd start a game in a different class (Tambor out of Pearl) that I had just had success with... and lo and behold it crashed the moment I attempted to go on deck to get a view of my surroundings... hrmph.

propbeanie · 11-25-16, 01:25 PM

Go to your MODS folder where you're using JSGME to activate the mod, and be certain that the folder structure is correct. You should have in the MODS folder, a couple of folders from RFB, whatever they're called. Below those folders should be a Data folder in each, and maybe a Support folder with ReadMe files. If you have another folder with the Data folder below that, that's the issue. You should have

Game Folder / SH4 / MODS / RFBmod / Data / etc. folders below that.

orcsoul · 11-25-16, 01:30 PM

Nope, folder structure for both RFB and the patch are correct and I highly suspect if that were the issue, the game itself would either crash the moment it begins loading the core game files, or the stock game would load and not RFB.

Any other thoughts? Part of me wonders if this is a texture/memory issue... I'm running the game on modern hardware and given the behavior that it's only crashing when it has to load the external world and its associated textures?

propbeanie · 11-25-16, 01:53 PM

Since you said stock works and the folder structure is correct, I doubt if it's anything other than what happens when you load the mod. What kind of resolution are you running your computer at? Is it the "Native" resolution? Are you running the game at the same resolution? Do you have onboard Intel graphics?

I'm not familiar at all with the "newer" version of RFB, so you'll have to wait on someone knowledgeable in it, if you can't figure it out yourself.

There is one other thing though... what directory do you have the game installed in? If you're in C:\Program Files (x86) on a "modern" computer with Windows, then that may well be the issue, in that Windows is "protecting" you from yourself. Windows put a lockbox on the Program Files directories, and doesn't allow anyone to change things there, unless it goes through Windows. You could either re-install the game to another folder, or just make a Games folder in the "C:\" root, and then drag the Silent Hunter folder over there. It'll take a bit to copy it all, but it will run from there just fine... Also, did you allow the DirectX 9c to install? SH4 needs those files...

orcsoul · 11-25-16, 02:41 PM

It's definitely not a winderps file system protection issue as I've never installed hardly anything in program files preferring my own arbitrary scheme of organization instead.

And also only ever run at native res and with a discrete video card that's far more than capable of running the game.

I'll keep poking around to see if I can't figure it out, appreciate the assistance so far though.

propbeanie · 11-25-16, 03:14 PM

... and that's about it for my skill level with RFB...

good luck with figuring it out, or maybe one of the young old heads will come along the Thee Definitive Answer... TDA for short... gotta have our acronyms...

orcsoul · 11-26-16, 10:49 AM

Got it finally figured out...

I'd forgotten all about having to go in and make the SH4 executable aware of and able to utilize memory spaces >4gb.

Went in and changed that and all problems seem to be fixed... so far.

propbeanie · 11-26-16, 11:44 AM

Veddy intellesteen... Thanks for posting back with that. I don't understand why that would work, but we'll use the info.

orcsoul · 11-26-16, 02:02 PM

And as if in an act of cosmic irony... I encounter a crash... of a different sort. I launch my first fish at an unescorted tanker... and wouldn't you know the first torpedo I launch is a circle runner (wasn't expecting it so wasn't looking for it) and impacted me dead abeam.

But no crashes... except for that one... where the fish crashed into my sub.

05-21-16, 04:51 AM	#1278
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,180 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Pleased you're sorted and welcome to SubSim matey __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

11-25-16, 01:25 PM	#1283
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,749 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	Go to your MODS folder where you're using JSGME to activate the mod, and be certain that the folder structure is correct. You should have in the MODS folder, a couple of folders from RFB, whatever they're called. Below those folders should be a Data folder in each, and maybe a Support folder with ReadMe files. If you have another folder with the Data folder below that, that's the issue. You should have Game Folder / SH4 / MODS / RFBmod / Data / etc. folders below that. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

11-25-16, 01:53 PM	#1285
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,749 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	Since you said stock works and the folder structure is correct, I doubt if it's anything other than what happens when you load the mod. What kind of resolution are you running your computer at? Is it the "Native" resolution? Are you running the game at the same resolution? Do you have onboard Intel graphics? I'm not familiar at all with the "newer" version of RFB, so you'll have to wait on someone knowledgeable in it, if you can't figure it out yourself. There is one other thing though... what directory do you have the game installed in? If you're in C:\Program Files (x86) on a "modern" computer with Windows, then that may well be the issue, in that Windows is "protecting" you from yourself. Windows put a lockbox on the Program Files directories, and doesn't allow anyone to change things there, unless it goes through Windows. You could either re-install the game to another folder, or just make a Games folder in the "C:\" root, and then drag the Silent Hunter folder over there. It'll take a bit to copy it all, but it will run from there just fine... Also, did you allow the DirectX 9c to install? SH4 needs those files... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna Last edited by propbeanie; 11-25-16 at 01:57 PM. Reason: sprelling airs kerrected...

11-25-16, 03:14 PM	#1287
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,749 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	... and that's about it for my skill level with RFB... good luck with figuring it out, or maybe one of the young old heads will come along the Thee Definitive Answer... TDA for short... gotta have our acronyms... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

11-26-16, 11:44 AM	#1289
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,749 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	Veddy intellesteen... Thanks for posting back with that. I don't understand why that would work, but we'll use the info. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

05-21-16, 12:24 AM	#1276
konate Nub Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 3 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Hey! New subsim player with noob problems setting up RFB. Just now failed my first training convoy mission. Lots of things different from the youtube videos I've been learning from without RFB. It can get frustrating watching videos with things I don't have access to. I am very anxious to gain proficiency.

05-21-16, 01:03 AM	#1277
konate Nub Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 3 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	No worries. I got it. I needed to have the U-boat missions for it to work.

07-12-16, 04:20 PM	#1279
Skyworm Watch Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 16 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Cheers, just a question: Has anyone already experience with silent hunter 4 and real fleet boat 2 under windows 10? Does it run or not? Thanks!

07-13-16, 01:00 AM	#1280
XTBilly Officer Join Date: May 2009 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 242 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	Yes, I did give it a go before a couple of months. No problems. Cheers, Billy.

07-13-16, 04:03 PM	#1281
Skyworm Watch Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 16 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	That's good to hear! Thanks!

11-25-16, 01:14 PM	#1282
orcsoul Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 17 Downloads: 186 Uploads: 0	Hmm.. I seem to be running into a 90% reliable crash with RFB 2.0 w/ Patch every time I attempt to load up the any sort of external view (Attack 'scope, external camera, deck, etc) in a Gar class running out of Pearl. Both the Porpoise and Tambor (which really makes it confusing, as the Tambor/Gar are(were?) identical and use the same files?) work just fine however. The situation: 100% clean and fresh (Steam) install of SH4 w/ UBoat Missions, verified running 1.5 patch. Absolutely no other mods have ever been loaded, and the only two active in JSGME are RFB2.0 followed by the April patch. JSGME has been installed to the SH4 install directory and RFB is loading normally as far as I've been able to tell which is to say there have been no other errors or issues so far. I'll start up the game, fire up a new campaign, accept my first mission and load up into the command room of the sub. From there I'll plot a course on the Nav map, return to the command room, and then attempt to move to the deck... then boom CTD. Any time I've attempted to do anything that would pull up a view of the world outside the command room in the Gar class. In an attempt to rule out RFB as the source of the issue I've also loaded up a fresh campaign in a Gar out of Pearl in the stock game w/ no mods. There are no issues there however and everything works as expected. Suggestions? Known issue that I just missed searching for? Edit: Oookay... so just decided I'd start a game in a different class (Tambor out of Pearl) that I had just had success with... and lo and behold it crashed the moment I attempted to go on deck to get a view of my surroundings... hrmph.

11-25-16, 01:30 PM	#1284
orcsoul Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 17 Downloads: 186 Uploads: 0	Nope, folder structure for both RFB and the patch are correct and I highly suspect if that were the issue, the game itself would either crash the moment it begins loading the core game files, or the stock game would load and not RFB. Any other thoughts? Part of me wonders if this is a texture/memory issue... I'm running the game on modern hardware and given the behavior that it's only crashing when it has to load the external world and its associated textures?

11-25-16, 02:41 PM	#1286
orcsoul Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 17 Downloads: 186 Uploads: 0	It's definitely not a winderps file system protection issue as I've never installed hardly anything in program files preferring my own arbitrary scheme of organization instead. And also only ever run at native res and with a discrete video card that's far more than capable of running the game. I'll keep poking around to see if I can't figure it out, appreciate the assistance so far though.

11-26-16, 10:49 AM	#1288
orcsoul Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 17 Downloads: 186 Uploads: 0	Got it finally figured out... I'd forgotten all about having to go in and make the SH4 executable aware of and able to utilize memory spaces >4gb. Went in and changed that and all problems seem to be fixed... so far.

11-26-16, 02:02 PM	#1290
orcsoul Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 17 Downloads: 186 Uploads: 0	And as if in an act of cosmic irony... I encounter a crash... of a different sort. I launch my first fish at an unescorted tanker... and wouldn't you know the first torpedo I launch is a circle runner (wasn't expecting it so wasn't looking for it) and impacted me dead abeam. But no crashes... except for that one... where the fish crashed into my sub.