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10-24-15, 01:57 PM | #1 |
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ORP Błyskawica and ORP Grom were previously (just after building) equipped with two DC racks and 20 BH 200 DCs onboard, some authors say about two additional Thornycroft DC throwers (don't know specific model), but probably that is a mistake.
For sure ORP Błyskawica (ORP Grom was lost in 1940 during German invasion of Norway) was equipped with four Thornycraft Mk.IV DCTs after 20 June 1941. If we are talking about ORP Burza and ORP Wicher (similar to French Bourrasque destroyers) that their antisubmarine weapons looked like this: 1. from building to 1939 they were equipped with two DC racks for 20 BH 200 DCs supply and one Thornycroft DCT for 10 BH 200 supply, but some authors say that DCT was removed in 1934 (ORP Wicher was sunk by German planes in September 1939). 2. from 1940 to 1942 two DC racks for 20 DCs supply and two Thornycroft DCTs for 20 DCs supply. 3. from 1942 to 1945 two DC racks, four Thornycroft Mk.IV DCTs and one Hedgehog. I hope it helps you with your work mate
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08-22-21, 03:08 PM | #2 |
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Hi, is this a driveable mod witht he ships or just ai?
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08-22-21, 03:18 PM | #3 |
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No, this is an AI mod.
I rework the entire ASW combat in the game so that it becomes as realistic as possible in SH3 and makes your life hell. The ships themselves stay the same as before, I only improved the realism by eliminating obvious errors that I stumble on and add the new ASW weapons to the ships. Just try it out yourself to find out if you enjoy it.
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10-24-15, 03:58 PM | #4 |
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That's more than I ever expected!
Thank you very much!
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10-26-15, 11:21 AM | #5 |
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Some further questions to your superb explanations:
Do you also know how many DCs the two Thornycrofts of the Grom had? 20 like the Wicher? I model the early DCTs which you aren´t sure if they were on board with two Thornycroft Mk.I with 10 DCs each. Do you know where the single launcher on the Wicher was positioned and if it was a K- or Y-Gun. Are you sure, that the have used the Thornycroft Mk.IV until the end of the war and haven´t upgraded to the Thornycroft Mk.V? Thanks in Advance mate Last edited by padi; 10-26-15 at 11:40 AM. |
10-26-15, 04:04 PM | #6 |
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Padi, small historical research for you:
1. There is only one source of information (one author and one book) about Thornycroft DCTs on board of Grom class just after building and shortly after WWII beginning, so it may not be true. Even then it's true amount of available DCs for DCTs shouldn't exceed 10 (max 20) DCs, similar to Wicher class (20 BH 200 for racks and 10 for throwers). IMHO better to legitimate that there were not any DCTs onboard of Grom class, up to ORP Błyskawica overhaul started on 20.06.1941. 2. The single DCTs on Wicher class were most likely removed from these destroyers in 1934. After that in 1940 only ORP Burza was equipped with two Thornycroft DCTs and in 1942 with four Mk.IV DCTs. 3. I've found nowhere info about Thornycroft Mk.V throwers onboard of ORP Błyskawica and ORP Burza, so only Mk.IV version is verified. Don't forget important info: ORP Wicher and ORP Burza were both Wicher class, built in France. ORP Burza survived WWII, but ORP Wicher was sunk by German planes on 3 September 1939. ORP Grom and ORP Błyskawica were both Grom class, built in UK. ORP Błyskawica survived WWII (she's still on the waves as museum-ship in Gdynia, Poland), but ORP Grom was sunk by German planes on 4 May 1940. You gave me very interesting job with this, I wanna buy fresh released monography of all Polish destroyers using during WWII for making comprehensive research for you
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10-26-15, 04:23 PM | #7 |
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Thanks!
Nice that you have fun doing this😄 I have fun implementing your data😉
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10-29-15, 05:08 PM | #8 |
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The polish ships are now working. I´m at the moment in the progress of testing and debugging.
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10-30-15, 09:10 AM | #9 |
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Very good news
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10-30-15, 11:10 AM | #10 |
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I have uploaded the new v.3 Beta 4.
More infos in the first post. The next step are the french and italian DCs, which are the Focal points of the next version. Informations to them are also welcome After I have finished them I would add the last few ships which I left out until now. |
12-17-16, 12:08 PM | #11 |
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What about Gwx? Is where mod similar?
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07-23-21, 06:17 AM | #12 |
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Hi guys,
there are nice news regarding the mod, which you could find on the Mod‘s Discord. When the new version is ready (which I assume to be the case in the next few weeks as I could at the moment only work on it on weekends) it would of course be published here also. Regardless I‘m still looking for 3D creators and beta testers to improve the speed and quality of development. Greetings
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07-23-21, 08:09 AM | #13 |
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I'm ready to test it on my GWR
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08-19-21, 06:01 AM | #14 |
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Hi Community,
I´m happy to finally be able to release the Release Candidate for the Version 4.0 here. It contains all the british ships (except the Kingfisher and Vosper class) as the Kingfisher crashes every time I load it with or without the mod (most likely WAC problem) and for the Vosper new models for the DC chutes need to be created. The other nations like US, France, Sowjets or Italians will follow, as well as the Poles and Canadians if I find useful information. Everything else could be found in the Readme. If you find any bugs, have suggestions for features or something else feel free to get in contact with us on the corresponding channels. You could find the RC here: https://www.mediafire.com/file/3jcay..._RC4.0.7z/file If no Bugs are found I will release it as stable in one week. If you want to get in contact with the developers simply head over to the discord, as that is the place where I could reply the fastest. You find it here: https://discord.gg/Yg5ZE25 Finally here are some pictures of the mod in action on the most heavily armed ASW-ship featured so far, the Havant-class.
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08-19-21, 08:21 AM | #15 |
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Well done, thanks !
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