[TEC] SH5.exe patches to fix bugs and add functionality - Page 176

07-28-13, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

?? And what for please?

In the reality in stormy weather torpedo attack was not possible! Often in stormy weather captains U-Boot saw the enemy ship, but could not do anything! Had to wait for better weather or move to another hunting area!

Fifi · 07-28-13, 04:14 AM

Big waves never prevent from opening tubes and launch torpedos!

07-28-13, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

Big waves never prevent from opening tubes and launch torpedos!

Big waves of the Atlantic Ocean does not normally allow the team to visit the toilet!

Or you are talking about the game?
I spoke with a former captain of the diesel submarine of the Soviet period, and he confirmed that the severe storm torpedo attack is not possible with the position of the periscope!

Fifi · 07-28-13, 06:10 AM

Agreed for the scopes

But you can listen and work from hydrophone...and again, you still can open tubes and fire a salvo...in storm.
I don't see why patcher would deactivate torpedo tubes in big weather...
If TDW takes this strange idea, i'll never activate it anyway

volodya61 · 07-28-13, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

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I don't see why patcher would deactivate torpedo tubes in big weather...
If TDW takes this strange idea, i'll never activate it anyway

07-28-13, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

Agreed for the scopes

But you can listen and work from hydrophone...and again, you still can open tubes and fire a salvo...in storm.
I don't see why patcher would deactivate torpedo tubes in big weather...
If TDW takes this strange idea, i'll never activate it anyway

I also do not activate some of the patch for different reasons!
As you wish!

I support the historicity and realism in SH5!

chun · 07-28-13, 07:14 AM

alone would be a cheaper option for the player to choose

Sjizzle · 07-28-13, 02:42 PM

A sextant bug
the menu sextant appear anywhere ( hydro station, binocular, attack scope, obs scope ) when i close the sextant meny can not use anymore the report botton from any of crew member

Fifi · 07-28-13, 04:55 PM

^^

at least i'm not alone anymore with a possessed computer!
Only problem remaining with sextant here, is the little icon to activate sextant stadimeter staying on screen (nav map/UZO/binos/periscope) whatever i do

Edit: in fact just had again same report order problem as you, with hydroman and radioman...still there, but not always.

vdr1981 · 07-29-13, 02:40 AM

Since i have installed latest Generic Patcher v1.0.145.0 and TDW 7.5 UI's there is no more speed drop while battery recharging is active?! Any hint ?

Fifi · 07-29-13, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdr1981

Since i have installed latest Generic Patcher v1.0.145.0 and TDW 7.5 UI's there is no more speed drop while battery recharging is active?! Any hint ?

Me too! TDW??

CaliEs · 07-29-13, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

?? And what for please?

15 m/s = 54 Km/h windspeed = Beaufort 7 = 4 - 5.5 meter wave height.
So a torpedo obviously has a depth keeping problem when in "Near Gale" (=Beaufort 7) or above.

CaliEs · 07-29-13, 05:48 AM

The communications improvements with other friendly ships (maybe say status: course, speed, position, damage level, flooding level, etc. . ) are promising.

Sjizzle · 07-29-13, 06:00 AM

torpedo safe depth

gap · 07-29-13, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain73

P.S. Like the idea ....
You can fix in the next version, to prohibit access to the 88mm gun in stormy weather (with the wind of 12 m/s)?

Inability torpedo attack in stormy weather? (with the wind 12 m/s or 15m/s)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

?? And what for please?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain73

In the reality in stormy weather torpedo attack was not possible! Often in stormy weather captains U-Boot saw the enemy ship, but could not do anything! Had to wait for better weather or move to another hunting area!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

Big waves never prevent from opening tubes and launch torpedos!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain73

Big waves of the Atlantic Ocean does not normally allow the team to visit the toilet!

Or you are talking about the game?
I spoke with a former captain of the diesel submarine of the Soviet period, and he confirmed that the severe storm torpedo attack is not possible with the position of the periscope!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

Agreed for the scopes

But you can listen and work from hydrophone...and again, you still can open tubes and fire a salvo...in storm.
I don't see why patcher would deactivate torpedo tubes in big weather...
If TDW takes this strange idea, i'll never activate it anyway

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliEs

15 m/s = 54 Km/h windspeed = Beaufort 7 = 4 - 5.5 meter wave height.
So a torpedo obviously has a depth keeping problem when in "Near Gale" (=Beaufort 7) or above.

What Captain73 and CaliEs are saying is true, but obviously the solution is not preventing torpedo doors from opening during heavy storms.

Imo, it is on the captain to evaluate at any moment the risks and the benefits of a given strategy, and he got the authority to issue any order as far as it doesn't involve an obvious and useless risk for the life of his crew and the safety of his vessel (as it would be ordering deckgun to be manned during a storm).

There are other ways to make torpedo attacks not viable during stormy weather. The first ideas that occur to me:

- making torpedoes to fail (much) more often on heavy waves than during calm weather, especially at shallow depth settings. This bugged stock feature was fixed by TDW and, if needed, we only got to adjust weather related torpedo failure rates

- making equipments to incur damage due to their misuse. In this special case, setting a random chance that torpedo dors can jam every time they are opened/closed, and increasing this chance on rough seas. This is not featured in game yet, but it is in TDW's todo list

07-28-13, 04:14 AM	#2627
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,753 Downloads: 456 Uploads: 0	Big waves never prevent from opening tubes and launch torpedos! __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/dpmw3...N_V5.8.7z/file

07-28-13, 06:10 AM	#2629
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,753 Downloads: 456 Uploads: 0	Agreed for the scopes But you can listen and work from hydrophone...and again, you still can open tubes and fire a salvo...in storm. I don't see why patcher would deactivate torpedo tubes in big weather... If TDW takes this strange idea, i'll never activate it anyway __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/dpmw3...N_V5.8.7z/file

07-28-13, 02:42 PM	#2633
Sjizzle Count Dracula Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: 46°13′N, 24°47′E Posts: 1,816 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 0	A sextant bug the menu sextant appear anywhere ( hydro station, binocular, attack scope, obs scope ) when i close the sextant meny can not use anymore the report botton from any of crew member __________________ My Mod List With MagUI Read This Before Enable Mods

07-28-13, 04:55 PM	#2634
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,753 Downloads: 456 Uploads: 0	^^ at least i'm not alone anymore with a possessed computer! Only problem remaining with sextant here, is the little icon to activate sextant stadimeter staying on screen (nav map/UZO/binos/periscope) whatever i do Edit: in fact just had again same report order problem as you, with hydroman and radioman...still there, but not always. __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/dpmw3...N_V5.8.7z/file Last edited by Fifi; 07-28-13 at 08:12 PM.

07-29-13, 02:40 AM	#2635
vdr1981 Navy Seal Join Date: May 2010 Location: Србија Posts: 6,078 Downloads: 581 Uploads: 13	Since i have installed latest Generic Patcher v1.0.145.0 and TDW 7.5 UI's there is no more speed drop while battery recharging is active?! Any hint ? __________________ Best regards... Vecko The Wolves of Steel v2.2.25_SH5 Expansion Pack_Full The Wolves of Steel v2.2.xx to v2.2.25 - Update PDF Install Instructions How to report an issue If You wish to support my work...

07-28-13, 07:14 AM	#2632
chun Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: spain Posts: 105 Downloads: 445 Uploads: 0	alone would be a cheaper option for the player to choose

07-29-13, 05:48 AM	#2638
CaliEs Loader Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 89 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	The communications improvements with other friendly ships (maybe say status: course, speed, position, damage level, flooding level, etc. . ) are promising. __________________ Dietrich von Carlewitz, 2nd Lt. U-29

07-29-13, 06:00 AM	#2639
Sjizzle Count Dracula Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: 46°13′N, 24°47′E Posts: 1,816 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 0	torpedo safe depth __________________ My Mod List With MagUI Read This Before Enable Mods