How do you know a MOD has been applied

G Man · 03-19-17, 06:11 PM

I've used JSGME a number of times on SHIII and I'm now returning to SHIV after some time away because I didn't find the stock SHIV much of a challenge after the poundings you can get from British escorts. I always play high realism and in SHIV I found that as soon as I'd gone below the thermal layer and cleared my firing position the escorts never got near me. Now I'm trying TMO, RSRDC_TMO_V502. Knowing a Balao can easily make 600 feet and had a depth gauge which went that deep I installed the Balao 600 as well. All loaded through JSGME with no conflict alerts and show as installed in dark letters, but when I enter the game in a Balao class there's no 600 foot depth gauge in either the control room or conning tower only the standard 450 foot gauge.
Any ideas?
It's also made me wonder if any of the other MODs have failed to load despite indicating they have.
Is there a sure fire way of knowing a MOD has been applied?

THEBERBSTER · 03-19-17, 06:20 PM

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Open the mod and check that you can see the data folder.
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03-20-17, 11:48 AM

the only way to know for sure is to open the game and look for the changes it makes

some mods add things that can make it easy to tell but most you cant except by playing the game and seeing the results of what the mod is supposed to do.

as berbster mentioned, many mods have double folders so you may have put the download in jsgme but not the correct mod file

for example a mod called green trees might have a download file called green trees and inside that folder there is a read me text file explaining the mod and what it does and how to use it. there might also be an image file and/or more then one file if the mod is designed to work for v1.4 game and another file for use with v1.5 game.

the way to tell it is the correct file is if you open up the mod folder and you should see the only file there called "data" and that is how you know that is the correct mod file to put into jsgme. so to recap, if the folder you put in jsgme opens up to show "green trees/green trees/data" then you put the wrong folder in and it will not work, if the folder you put in jsgme opens up to show "green trees/data" then you put the right folder in and it will work.

G Man · 03-20-17, 05:40 PM

Thanks gents, I've tried going into the files in MODs and some did have data and documents in there. I made sure the MOD was not double filed and only had data in it before installing with JSGME but I'm still seeing the same control room and conning tower with no 600 foot depth gauge when I'm selecting Balao class so I don't think the MODs are loading. I've even tried downloading them again.
Do you have any other suggestions?

propbeanie · 03-20-17, 08:45 PM

Can you use the D key to "dive", and just watch and listen to see if the boat keeps going deeper? I did think though that the mod changed the gauge in the Control Room by the diving station...

03-20-17, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G Man

Thanks gents, I've tried going into the files in MODs and some did have data and documents in there. I made sure the MOD was not double filed and only had data in it before installing with JSGME but I'm still seeing the same control room and conning tower with no 600 foot depth gauge when I'm selecting Balao class so I don't think the MODs are loading. I've even tried downloading them again.
Do you have any other suggestions?

try my GFO mod then go check the gauges in balao and gato subs

I have the 600 mod built into GFO its designed to fix all the little bugs and things in the game without changing the difficulty or AI

also be aware the install order of things is very critical because some mods change the same files but in different ways. a mod you installed may have reverted the gauges back to stock defaults while it was changing something else relating to the files for gauges or something

G Man · 03-21-17, 02:06 PM

Thanks for the suggestion but it still doesn't work. Just to run you through what I do.
I have SHIV Uboat missions V1.5 loaded. JSGME loaded and I've used it successfully with SHIII. My MODs folder is on my desk top with all my MODs in it and they appear in the inactive section of JSGME.
Following you last suggestion I checked them all for data only and ensured they weren't in double folders. I thought that multiple MODs might be the problem so when I still couldn't get it to work I loaded TMO 2.5 only and it still won't give me a 600 foot depth gauge so it looks like it hasn't loaded the MOD.
Any other suggestions?

propbeanie · 03-21-17, 03:14 PM

OK, here's the place ya need to be in TMO (this is actually FotRSU, but the same scene)

You will want to use that middle gauge.

Here's a closer view of that little middle gauge

Click about where you want to set your depth

... and here we are at our set depth...

Back "safe" on the surface

If you do not have that gauge like that, maybe a different background color, then something isn't correct in the mod.

Sniper297 · 03-21-17, 04:23 PM

Windows Explorer, select View, Details, Choose Details, click the box for "Date Modified" on. Then when you're hunting for files with the same name you can sort them according to date, that will give you an idea which are mods and which are original.

G Man · 03-21-17, 04:28 PM

Thanks, I've seen the views on the MODs and I believe that there's a similar gauge by the helm in the conning tower. The problem is when I upload the MODs then open the game I don't see the new view control room or conning tower, I just see the old legacy views from basic stock SHIV so I don't think the MODs are loading. I don't know why because I've loaded lots of MODs before on SHIII and never had any problems.

03-21-17, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G Man

Thanks for the suggestion but it still doesn't work. Just to run you through what I do.
I have SHIV Uboat missions V1.5 loaded. JSGME loaded and I've used it successfully with SHIII. My MODs folder is on my desk top with all my MODs in it and they appear in the inactive section of JSGME.
Following you last suggestion I checked them all for data only and ensured they weren't in double folders. I thought that multiple MODs might be the problem so when I still couldn't get it to work I loaded TMO 2.5 only and it still won't give me a 600 foot depth gauge so it looks like it hasn't loaded the MOD.
Any other suggestions?

well the MODS folder is supposed to be in the ubisoft/silent hunter 4 folder, NOT on the desktop, the jsgme MODS folder has to be in the game folder in order for jsgme to be able to install them.

place the downloaded jsgme.exe file in the sh4 game folder and then click to run it, it will install jsgme files there. now run jsgme and it also creates a MODS folder there.

now put your mods in the MODS folder inside the sh4 folder and now everything has been installed correctly. if you want, right click on the jsgme startup file (the big yellow "G") and send a shortcut to desktop for it so you can open to change mods around as you want to.

its really easy to tell if TMO is installed because the intro screens and options menu screens are different

raysavo79 · 03-21-17, 08:13 PM

tq for the info guys..new guy here..

Aktungbby · 03-21-17, 09:12 PM

raysavo79!

G Man · 03-22-17, 06:34 PM

Thanks Webster, it works like a dream now. Can't wait to try out the greater difficulty and max realism. Fortunately my tactics, sonar and radar knowledge and mental maths is far better than my computer knowledge.

03-22-17, 10:38 PM

glad your all sorted out now, go sink some ships capt.

03-19-17, 06:11 PM	#1
G Man Seaman Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 35 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	How do you know a MOD has been applied I've used JSGME a number of times on SHIII and I'm now returning to SHIV after some time away because I didn't find the stock SHIV much of a challenge after the poundings you can get from British escorts. I always play high realism and in SHIV I found that as soon as I'd gone below the thermal layer and cleared my firing position the escorts never got near me. Now I'm trying TMO, RSRDC_TMO_V502. Knowing a Balao can easily make 600 feet and had a depth gauge which went that deep I installed the Balao 600 as well. All loaded through JSGME with no conflict alerts and show as installed in dark letters, but when I enter the game in a Balao class there's no 600 foot depth gauge in either the control room or conning tower only the standard 450 foot gauge. Any ideas? It's also made me wonder if any of the other MODs have failed to load despite indicating they have. Is there a sure fire way of knowing a MOD has been applied?

03-19-17, 06:20 PM	#2
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03-20-17, 08:45 PM	#5
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,749 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	Can you use the D key to "dive", and just watch and listen to see if the boat keeps going deeper? I did think though that the mod changed the gauge in the Control Room by the diving station... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

03-21-17, 03:14 PM	#8
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,749 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	OK, here's the place ya need to be in TMO (this is actually FotRSU, but the same scene) You will want to use that middle gauge. Here's a closer view of that little middle gauge Click about where you want to set your depth ... and here we are at our set depth... Back "safe" on the surface If you do not have that gauge like that, maybe a different background color, then something isn't correct in the mod. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

03-21-17, 09:12 PM	#13
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,857 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! raysavo79! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

03-20-17, 11:48 AM	#3
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	the only way to know for sure is to open the game and look for the changes it makes some mods add things that can make it easy to tell but most you cant except by playing the game and seeing the results of what the mod is supposed to do. as berbster mentioned, many mods have double folders so you may have put the download in jsgme but not the correct mod file for example a mod called green trees might have a download file called green trees and inside that folder there is a read me text file explaining the mod and what it does and how to use it. there might also be an image file and/or more then one file if the mod is designed to work for v1.4 game and another file for use with v1.5 game. the way to tell it is the correct file is if you open up the mod folder and you should see the only file there called "data" and that is how you know that is the correct mod file to put into jsgme. so to recap, if the folder you put in jsgme opens up to show "green trees/green trees/data" then you put the wrong folder in and it will not work, if the folder you put in jsgme opens up to show "green trees/data" then you put the right folder in and it will work.

03-20-17, 05:40 PM	#4
G Man Seaman Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 35 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Thanks gents, I've tried going into the files in MODs and some did have data and documents in there. I made sure the MOD was not double filed and only had data in it before installing with JSGME but I'm still seeing the same control room and conning tower with no 600 foot depth gauge when I'm selecting Balao class so I don't think the MODs are loading. I've even tried downloading them again. Do you have any other suggestions?

03-21-17, 02:06 PM	#7
G Man Seaman Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 35 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the suggestion but it still doesn't work. Just to run you through what I do. I have SHIV Uboat missions V1.5 loaded. JSGME loaded and I've used it successfully with SHIII. My MODs folder is on my desk top with all my MODs in it and they appear in the inactive section of JSGME. Following you last suggestion I checked them all for data only and ensured they weren't in double folders. I thought that multiple MODs might be the problem so when I still couldn't get it to work I loaded TMO 2.5 only and it still won't give me a 600 foot depth gauge so it looks like it hasn't loaded the MOD. Any other suggestions?

03-21-17, 04:23 PM	#9
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	Windows Explorer, select View, Details, Choose Details, click the box for "Date Modified" on. Then when you're hunting for files with the same name you can sort them according to date, that will give you an idea which are mods and which are original.

03-21-17, 04:28 PM	#10
G Man Seaman Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 35 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Thanks, I've seen the views on the MODs and I believe that there's a similar gauge by the helm in the conning tower. The problem is when I upload the MODs then open the game I don't see the new view control room or conning tower, I just see the old legacy views from basic stock SHIV so I don't think the MODs are loading. I don't know why because I've loaded lots of MODs before on SHIII and never had any problems.

03-21-17, 08:13 PM	#12
raysavo79 Nub Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 2 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	tq for the info guys..new guy here..

03-22-17, 06:34 PM	#14
G Man Seaman Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 35 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Thanks Webster, it works like a dream now. Can't wait to try out the greater difficulty and max realism. Fortunately my tactics, sonar and radar knowledge and mental maths is far better than my computer knowledge.

03-22-17, 10:38 PM	#15
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	glad your all sorted out now, go sink some ships capt.