THOMSEN PARAMETERS APP - by Stiebler

Stiebler · 05-15-13, 05:48 AM

The ships in SH3 tend to behave like 'rubber ducks' when bobbing on the sea, bouncing around too much, and turning, accelerating and deaccelerating far too quickly. Philip Thomsen discovered in 2008 that alteration of four key parameters (eng_power, drag (of rudder), gc_height and 'LR'), found in the .sim file of each ship, could make this behaviour much more life-like. He published his findings at SubSim in its own thread, and distributed a number of modified .sim files.

See Thomsen's thread:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=143775

Thomsen's findings were confirmed by others, including by H.sie who distributed some further modified files, but there was much debate about which values to use - indeed, no clear consensus ever emerged. Moreover, many other players of SH3 could not use the files distributed by Thomsen and H.sie, since they caused clashes with their own sim files.

Therefore, I have decided to make this THOMSEN PARAMETERS APP available for general use, since it can be used to modify ALL ships currently used by ANY user in their SH3 installation.

THOMSEN PARAMETERS APP is an executable file (.exe) that searches through your SH3 'Sea' folder looking for ship.sim files (eg 'NKC3.sim'). It then replaces optionally any or all of eng_power, rudder-drag, surfaced left-right drag coefficient ('LR') and gc_height (= centre of gravity) with values specified by the user. Every .sim file in your sea folder will be examined and altered!

(The instructions run to 2 1/2 pages, enclosed with the mod. I have tested the mod with about 180 sim files in NYGM (using recommended settings), but the app should work with any super mod, or even stock SH3, and with any ships made by others. Specifically, it functions correctly with IABL's MFM mod. Tests made by manual examination of a random selection of sim files for ships, and by carrying out 10 war patrols in mid Atlantic against a variety of convoys, and in single missions.)

Download from here:
http://www.subsim.com/mods1/nygm/ThomsenParamApp.7z

Stiebler.

VONHARRIS · 05-15-13, 06:15 AM

Nice job.
Downloading now!

Thank you

J0313 · 05-15-13, 07:05 AM

This is great, Thanks.

Borgneface · 05-15-13, 07:07 AM

S! Great work......Downloading it now and will install it when back to base.

Merci

brett25 · 05-15-13, 11:03 AM

really awesome stiebler, thanks

VONHARRIS · 05-15-13, 01:44 PM

I would like to post something I spotted:
(I appologize in advance if I am wrong)

In the help file of the application it is stated that a silenthunteriii\mods\ThomsenSea folder must be created , to be enabled later by JSGME.

I beleive the correct path must be ThomsenApp\data and copy the sea folder in there so that JSGME would be able to activate correctly in SH3.

(The above worked for me)

Thank you!

Luno · 05-15-13, 03:04 PM

Wow, this is perfect! Thanks Stiebler!

05-15-13, 05:48 AM	#1
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	THOMSEN PARAMETERS APP - by Stiebler The ships in SH3 tend to behave like 'rubber ducks' when bobbing on the sea, bouncing around too much, and turning, accelerating and deaccelerating far too quickly. Philip Thomsen discovered in 2008 that alteration of four key parameters (eng_power, drag (of rudder), gc_height and 'LR'), found in the .sim file of each ship, could make this behaviour much more life-like. He published his findings at SubSim in its own thread, and distributed a number of modified .sim files. See Thomsen's thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=143775 Thomsen's findings were confirmed by others, including by H.sie who distributed some further modified files, but there was much debate about which values to use - indeed, no clear consensus ever emerged. Moreover, many other players of SH3 could not use the files distributed by Thomsen and H.sie, since they caused clashes with their own sim files. Therefore, I have decided to make this THOMSEN PARAMETERS APP available for general use, since it can be used to modify ALL ships currently used by ANY user in their SH3 installation. THOMSEN PARAMETERS APP is an executable file (.exe) that searches through your SH3 'Sea' folder looking for ship.sim files (eg 'NKC3.sim'). It then replaces optionally any or all of eng_power, rudder-drag, surfaced left-right drag coefficient ('LR') and gc_height (= centre of gravity) with values specified by the user. Every .sim file in your sea folder will be examined and altered! (The instructions run to 2 1/2 pages, enclosed with the mod. I have tested the mod with about 180 sim files in NYGM (using recommended settings), but the app should work with any super mod, or even stock SH3, and with any ships made by others. Specifically, it functions correctly with IABL's MFM mod. Tests made by manual examination of a random selection of sim files for ships, and by carrying out 10 war patrols in mid Atlantic against a variety of convoys, and in single missions.) Download from here: http://www.subsim.com/mods1/nygm/ThomsenParamApp.7z Stiebler. __________________ NYGM Tonnage War Mod - More than a mod: it's an experience!

05-15-13, 07:07 AM	#4
Borgneface Captain Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Near La Rochelle - On board U-205 Posts: 519 Downloads: 657 Uploads: 0	S! Great work......Downloading it now and will install it when back to base. Merci __________________ Borgneface

05-15-13, 11:03 AM	#5
brett25 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oakland CA, USA Posts: 737 Downloads: 570 Uploads: 0	really awesome stiebler, thanks __________________ http://shmf.larsbundgaard.dk/index.p...1tn5&board=7.0

05-15-13, 03:04 PM	#7
Luno Ensign Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 234 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Wow, this is perfect! Thanks Stiebler! __________________ Career: Feb. 13, 1942 "Cpt. Johny Goodwood" Porpoise class: USS Shark, SS-174 Patrols: 2 Victories: 1 Merchants (4519 GRT), 0 Warships (0 GRT), 0 Aircraft Sunk with all hands lost.

05-15-13, 06:15 AM	#2
VONHARRIS Konteradmiral Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 1,992 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Nice job. Downloading now! Thank you

05-15-13, 07:05 AM	#3
J0313 Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 875 Downloads: 1786 Uploads: 0	This is great, Thanks.

05-15-13, 01:44 PM	#6
VONHARRIS Konteradmiral Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 1,992 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	I would like to post something I spotted: (I appologize in advance if I am wrong) In the help file of the application it is stated that a silenthunteriii\mods\ThomsenSea folder must be created , to be enabled later by JSGME. I beleive the correct path must be ThomsenApp\data and copy the sea folder in there so that JSGME would be able to activate correctly in SH3. (The above worked for me) Thank you!