Contract Of Common Sense - Page 2

Jimbuna · 08-21-09, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

Just a realist, Jim. I hope for the best and expect the worst.

Keep the faith my friend....I have a good feeling about this

TDK1044 · 08-21-09, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Keep the faith my friend....I have a good feeling about this

Yep. Me too. I think this sim will be excellent.....I'm just not sure how 'finished' it will be when they release it. We'll see.

Reece · 08-21-09, 09:12 AM

I purchased SH2, then pre ordered SH3 & SH4 (though I never actually played SH4). I agree with Neal & will also support the continuation of the Silent Hunter series by pre ordering SH5 as well.

I'm optimistic that this version will be a hit!!

Sonarman · 08-21-09, 09:57 AM

Whilst I do agree that SH4 was released too early (especially in the radar dept) I think Ubisoft has probably learned from the experience.

The presence of guys like Dan & Mihai here on the forum sometimes even late at night show they have a true committment & love for the subject that goes way beyond the 9 to 5 job mentality.

Rather than boycotting the release and punishing Ubi we should be encouraging them, actively asking for addons and expansions, showing them the product "has legs" and making them think twice about splitting up and re-assignning the dev team at the end of project as they have in the past.

I don't agree that anyone else would step in to fill the breech if Ubi disappeared why bother when you can make a cute "dress the puppy" game in a couple of months with a third of the SH devteam and sell ten times as many copies on the consoles as SH ever will on the PC. Ubi are showing faith in the subsim genre and we must return the favour that's the "common sense" approach as far as I see it.

Let's face it SH costs about the same as 2 crappy Hollywood DVDs you watch once and never watch again. Look at the amount of time SHIII has been out and people are still playing and enjoying it years and years later, to say that's not a good return on investment even at full RRP is just nuts.

Lt commander lare · 08-21-09, 10:18 AM

i will buy it through subsim as soon as its available neal is right i dont think there going to make the same mistakes we all make mistakes and we also have the power to change them i think sh5 will be great if not the japs will here from me again with a bow shot in 32 seconds my boat is always ready for anything

lt commander lare

08-21-09, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I see only one bug in this game. Watch the trailer one more time. The cook...he is thin....I do not eat were the cook is thin. Get this changed to a fat jolly old fellow.

Hah, you know why the fat guys were never accepted into submariners ? Because they would probably stuck in the hatch hole

08-21-09, 10:50 AM

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Let's celebrate what the game will undoubtedly become

No problem

, lets start with Living Crew, i want to drink a bear for that one, care to join

Sailor Steve · 08-21-09, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

I say all this because we don't want a whole load of bitching and moaning and people stating that Ubisoft sucks and they want to sue the company etc. We've seen and heard it all before and it's very boring.

But...but...but...

I agree wholeheartedly. I didn't preorder SH3, but I bought it the soon after release even though it was more than a month before I had a computer that could run it. I bought SH4 a little late, mainly because I was homeless at the time and had no money. As soon as I had the money I bought it and put it in my storage space with my computer. My old PC still doesn't run it well, but I play it anyway on minimum settings and live with it.

I'll preorder SH5, and if money is tight I'll buy it as soon as I can. Even if it's flawed, it's still looking like something new and different, and worth having. Hopefully it won't be too flawed, and will be working properly within a patch or two. Whatever happens, I'm in, if for no other reason than to selfishly say that I was there.

ETR3(SS) · 08-21-09, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I see only one bug in this game. Watch the trailer one more time. The cook...he is thin....I do not eat were the cook is thin. Get this changed to a fat jolly old fellow.

We had a fat cook on the boat, and by fat I mean 300lbs plus.

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Originally Posted by Contact

Hah, you know why the fat guys were never accepted into submariners ? Because they would probably stuck in the hatch hole

Same guy as mentioned above, although rumor had it when he checked on-board he was a pretty trim guy. It was his MSC that turned him fat. I believed it after meeting the guy to. I kept taking bets every patrol that this would be "the one" that he would eat himself into the boat.

Brag · 08-21-09, 11:34 AM

I am happy and grateful to Ubi just for coming out with another subsim. This indicates long term commitement to the genre. This commitement makes Ubi deserve our support.

Bitching about a product that has not yet been released is simply childish.

A good subsim a la Ubi is complex enough that bugs will not show up until a large number of players get their hands on it. That is when reports and constructive critique come into play.

Ubi devs visit this forum and other sites associated with our community and they listen.

I sincerely hope that this time, Ubi will keep Neal in the loop. The GWX team, could also be of great help prior to release.

(signing on the doted line

)

razark · 08-21-09, 11:39 AM

I agree completely, but I will take this further. I know that they will release a game that contains bugs, even if they learned from previous problems and try to make the released version as bug-free as possible. There will be bugs in any program.

Also, the game will be an advancement over SH3 and SH4. But not as advanced as it could be. The developers will apply what they learn to SH6.

SH6 will be much better than SH5. The graphics will be better, the campaign will be better, the gameplay will be better.

With this in mind, it only makes sense to skip SH5, and wait for SH6 to come out. I'm sure it will be much better than SH5.

And this way, we can donate all that money that we would have spent on SH5 to Neal. I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

Razark

08-21-09, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by razark

I agree completely, but I will take this further. I know that they will release a game that contains bugs, even if they learned from previous problems and try to make the released version as bug-free as possible. There will be bugs in any program.

Also, the game will be an advancement over SH3 and SH4. But not as advanced as it could be. The developers will apply what they learn to SH6.

SH6 will be much better than SH5. The graphics will be better, the campaign will be better, the gameplay will be better.

With this in mind, it only makes sense to skip SH5, and wait for SH6 to come out. I'm sure it will be much better than SH5.

Razark

You can think the same way about SH7, SH8 and so on. What gives ? you can skip your whole life waiting for a best of the best that will not going to happen if you'll continue to think like that

razark · 08-21-09, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Contact

You can think the same way about SH7, SH8 and so on. What gives ? you can skip your whole life waiting for a best of the best that will not going to happen if you'll continue to think like that

You got my point, while completely missing my point.

If we all skip buying SH5, there will never be a 7 or 8, much less a 6.

Munchausen · 08-21-09, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Let's see: $50 divided over 2.5 years I've played SH4, that's 913 days is about a nickel a day. I'd say that is a pretty reasonable price....

Every upgrade I've made to my computer, I've made so it could run the latest incarnation of Silent Hunter. After viewing the trailer, it's quite evident I'll need to upgrade again. So, for me, the price isn't just the price of the simulation. It also includes the price of new computer components.

Kloef · 08-21-09, 11:56 AM

I will probably buy it in the U.K online somewhere...i dont want to support the national artists rights protection here that basically takes 50% of the profits because their so called registered 'artists' are basically non-talented people that cant make money on their own,i want the profit to go to Ubisoft and it will save me money..

Even blank dvd's have an extra tax because they think everybody uses them for illigal software and music/movies..and they do:rotfl:except yours truly offcourse..

08-21-09, 09:12 AM	#18
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,740 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	I purchased SH2, then pre ordered SH3 & SH4 (though I never actually played SH4). I agree with Neal & will also support the continuation of the Silent Hunter series by pre ordering SH5 as well. I'm optimistic that this version will be a hit!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

08-21-09, 09:57 AM	#19
Sonarman The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayr,Scotland,UK Posts: 1,384 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	Whilst I do agree that SH4 was released too early (especially in the radar dept) I think Ubisoft has probably learned from the experience. The presence of guys like Dan & Mihai here on the forum sometimes even late at night show they have a true committment & love for the subject that goes way beyond the 9 to 5 job mentality. Rather than boycotting the release and punishing Ubi we should be encouraging them, actively asking for addons and expansions, showing them the product "has legs" and making them think twice about splitting up and re-assignning the dev team at the end of project as they have in the past. I don't agree that anyone else would step in to fill the breech if Ubi disappeared why bother when you can make a cute "dress the puppy" game in a couple of months with a third of the SH devteam and sell ten times as many copies on the consoles as SH ever will on the PC. Ubi are showing faith in the subsim genre and we must return the favour that's the "common sense" approach as far as I see it. Let's face it SH costs about the same as 2 crappy Hollywood DVDs you watch once and never watch again. Look at the amount of time SHIII has been out and people are still playing and enjoying it years and years later, to say that's not a good return on investment even at full RRP is just nuts. __________________ "The action is simulated...the excitement is real!" Microprose Simulation Software. Last edited by Sonarman; 08-21-09 at 10:14 AM.

08-21-09, 11:34 AM	#25
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I am happy and grateful to Ubi just for coming out with another subsim. This indicates long term commitement to the genre. This commitement makes Ubi deserve our support. Bitching about a product that has not yet been released is simply childish. A good subsim a la Ubi is complex enough that bugs will not show up until a large number of players get their hands on it. That is when reports and constructive critique come into play. Ubi devs visit this forum and other sites associated with our community and they listen. I sincerely hope that this time, Ubi will keep Neal in the loop. The GWX team, could also be of great help prior to release. (signing on the doted line ) __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

08-21-09, 11:56 AM	#30
Kloef Weps Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 360 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	I will probably buy it in the U.K online somewhere...i dont want to support the national artists rights protection here that basically takes 50% of the profits because their so called registered 'artists' are basically non-talented people that cant make money on their own,i want the profit to go to Ubisoft and it will save me money.. Even blank dvd's have an extra tax because they think everybody uses them for illigal software and music/movies..and they do:rotfl:except yours truly offcourse.. __________________ http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/

08-21-09, 10:18 AM	#20
Lt commander lare Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: southlyon michigan Posts: 897 Downloads: 781 Uploads: 35	i will buy it through subsim as soon as its available neal is right i dont think there going to make the same mistakes we all make mistakes and we also have the power to change them i think sh5 will be great if not the japs will here from me again with a bow shot in 32 seconds my boat is always ready for anything lt commander lare

08-21-09, 11:39 AM	#26
razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,725 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	I agree completely, but I will take this further. I know that they will release a game that contains bugs, even if they learned from previous problems and try to make the released version as bug-free as possible. There will be bugs in any program. Also, the game will be an advancement over SH3 and SH4. But not as advanced as it could be. The developers will apply what they learn to SH6. SH6 will be much better than SH5. The graphics will be better, the campaign will be better, the gameplay will be better. With this in mind, it only makes sense to skip SH5, and wait for SH6 to come out. I'm sure it will be much better than SH5. And this way, we can donate all that money that we would have spent on SH5 to Neal. I'm sure he'd appreciate it. Razark