[WIP] Wolves of the Kaiser:1914-1918 Mod - Page 111

Cybermat47 · 01-08-16, 03:07 AM

That shooting of survivors was brutal

Although I don't see it being an issue - personally, I'm never going to do such a thing. Moral considerations aside, it's just a waste of ammo.

Still, damn good of you to have the option available.

Keep up the good work

Jimbuna · 01-08-16, 10:54 AM

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New particle effects for the survivor are still being tweaked. Survivors (especially women and children)
will have a huge negative renown value. Want to act like a psychopath?
Good luck explaining it to the CO when you get back to base.
The blood will be an optional feature of the mod, enabled/disabled if you'd rather not have it.

Great to learn it is an optional feature

Aktungbby · 01-08-16, 04:17 PM

Right out of Murphy's War with Peter O'Toole and Horst Janson as the murderous U-boat commander; a great flick IMHO.

TorpX · 01-09-16, 12:24 AM

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Survivors (especially women and children)
will have a huge negative renown value. Want to act like a psychopath?
Good luck explaining it to the CO when you get back to base.

A very appropriate way to handle it, I think.

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Right out of Murphy's War with Peter O'Toole and Horst Janson as the murderous U-boat commander

Yes, that was a memorable movie.

Buddahaid · 01-09-16, 02:47 AM

Horrid, but nicely, and aptly put. I can't wait but I have loads of patience at the same time.

Xall · 01-10-16, 05:45 PM

Wow that is brutal.
I hope that, the gunners will not automatically engage any lifeboats or survivors!
Captures the horrors of war really well.

Good work. Sure stirs up emotions, I hope I will never accidentally ram or hit any survivors.

And since we are on this topic, will there be options for positive/honorable actions?
Here are some ideas:
- Stopping a ship, which puts the crew into life boats before sinking the ship.
- Option to give your own life boat to the survivors.
- Fire a flare at night so other ships can come to aid the survivors.
- Sending a S.O.S message for the survivors via wireless, giving away your position in the process.
- Giving first aid supplies.

And by doing any of these, the U-Boat commander receives a few renown points.
Essentially the opposite of killing or doing any violent actions towards survivors.

Char · 01-13-16, 08:38 PM

Maybe perhaps make Survivors as Neutral Units?.. I don't believe the AI Automatically fires upon Neutrals unless specifically told to.

Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt · 01-18-16, 05:04 PM

Are there some news?

iambecomelife · 01-19-16, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Xall

Wow that is brutal.
I hope that, the gunners will not automatically engage any lifeboats or survivors!
Captures the horrors of war really well.

Good work. Sure stirs up emotions, I hope I will never accidentally ram or hit any survivors.

And since we are on this topic, will there be options for positive/honorable actions?
Here are some ideas:
- Stopping a ship, which puts the crew into life boats before sinking the ship.
- Option to give your own life boat to the survivors.
- Fire a flare at night so other ships can come to aid the survivors.
- Sending a S.O.S message for the survivors via wireless, giving away your position in the process.
- Giving first aid supplies.

And by doing any of these, the U-Boat commander receives a few renown points.
Essentially the opposite of killing or doing any violent actions towards survivors.

The problem is linking these actions to renown. Although your ideas are interesting and I'd love to include them, I have no way of implementing them with the main SH4 modeling tools...except for one, which I may reveal later. In the coming weeks, expect some surprising new ways you can get renown in the game.

With respect to allowing crews to abandon ship first, some ships carrying contraband will automatically lower lifeboats once your submarine approaches. You will get neither a penalty nor a bonus when this occurs. Late in the war, most enemy ships will be armed and camouflaged, and can be sunk without warning.

iambecomelife · 01-19-16, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Char

Maybe perhaps make Survivors as Neutral Units?.. I don't believe the AI Automatically fires upon Neutrals unless specifically told to.

Interesting fact I just discovered... SH4 non-player units will not fire on enemy lifeboats...the developers apparently built "chivalry" into the AI behavior.

iambecomelife · 01-20-16, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt

Are there some news?

Yes actually! I'm having a little trouble uploading the screenshots but when photobucket is back on line I think you'll like them.

Admiral Halsey · 01-20-16, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by iambecomelife

Interesting fact I just discovered... SH4 non-player units will not fire on enemy lifeboats...the developers apparently built "chivalry" into the AI behavior.

Whats the bit of code that prevents them from doing so? Because I may wanna remove that myself. Though i'll probably put it right back in the moment my gunners waste 5 shell on a lifeboat after sinking a ship even though the rest of the convoy is still sailing around.

iambecomelife · 01-20-16, 04:38 AM

@ Adm Halsey - If you change the unit type to maybe 102 (Merchant Ship) I think the AI might attack lifeboats.

Cybermat47 · 01-20-16, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by iambecomelife

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I can't wait

iambecomelife · 01-20-16, 04:39 AM

Part 1 - Crippling the enemy with the deck gun, to destroy the engine room...

Reversing to a safe distance....

Issuing additional orders...

01-08-16, 03:07 AM	#1651
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,386 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 22	That shooting of survivors was brutal Although I don't see it being an issue - personally, I'm never going to do such a thing. Moral considerations aside, it's just a waste of ammo. Still, damn good of you to have the option available. Keep up the good work __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

01-08-16, 04:17 PM	#1653
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,856 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Right out of Murphy's War with Peter O'Toole and Horst Janson as the murderous U-boat commander; a great flick IMHO. __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

01-09-16, 02:47 AM	#1655
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,558 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Horrid, but nicely, and aptly put. I can't wait but I have loads of patience at the same time. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

01-10-16, 05:45 PM	#1656
Xall Mate Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 53 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Wow that is brutal. I hope that, the gunners will not automatically engage any lifeboats or survivors! Captures the horrors of war really well. Good work. Sure stirs up emotions, I hope I will never accidentally ram or hit any survivors. And since we are on this topic, will there be options for positive/honorable actions? Here are some ideas: - Stopping a ship, which puts the crew into life boats before sinking the ship. - Option to give your own life boat to the survivors. - Fire a flare at night so other ships can come to aid the survivors. - Sending a S.O.S message for the survivors via wireless, giving away your position in the process. - Giving first aid supplies. And by doing any of these, the U-Boat commander receives a few renown points. Essentially the opposite of killing or doing any violent actions towards survivors. Last edited by Xall; 01-10-16 at 05:56 PM.

01-18-16, 05:04 PM	#1658
Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Trieste/Siena Italy Posts: 285 Downloads: 164 Uploads: 0	Are there some news? __________________ ALFA TAU!!! Rapidi Ed Invisibili-the campaign (an italian mod for SH4)

01-13-16, 08:38 PM	#1657
Char Medic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Albany,NY Posts: 160 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	Maybe perhaps make Survivors as Neutral Units?.. I don't believe the AI Automatically fires upon Neutrals unless specifically told to.

01-20-16, 04:38 AM	#1663
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,584 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	@ Adm Halsey - If you change the unit type to maybe 102 (Merchant Ship) I think the AI might attack lifeboats. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/ Last edited by iambecomelife; 01-20-16 at 05:16 AM.

01-20-16, 04:39 AM	#1665
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,584 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	Part 1 - Crippling the enemy with the deck gun, to destroy the engine room... Reversing to a safe distance.... Issuing additional orders... __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/ Last edited by iambecomelife; 01-20-16 at 04:56 AM.