No graphics for SH3

silentwayIII · 06-28-17, 05:05 PM

Yesterday SH3 loaded, NYGM version, but except for music there were no graphics displayed. I have win10 (64 bit version) installed and an Nvidia card with 2 gigs of memory. The last time I played the game (one week ago) everything worked great! Tried to figure out why it wasn't working any longer by reloading my mods one by one.

I used a basic version of the patched game...it loaded.
I installed all of the NYGM files...the game loaded.
When I loaded Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final and
Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final - FILES for NYGM v3.6D the program lost all visuals.

What I had installed that worked in the past:
NYGM Tonnage War V2.5 – Stand Alone Version
NYGM3_0
NYGM3_1
NYGM3_2
NYGM3_3B
NYGM3_3C
NYGM3_4A
NYGM3_5
NYGM3_6D
IABL Ships for NYGM
M.E.P v6
M.E.P v6 - VisualSensors for NYGM 3.6F
Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final
Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final - FILES for NYGM v3.6D
Fubar XXIupdate
New XXI Crew
FuMB37XXIII NEW for XXI_44
Restore Gods Eye View
Single Merchant Contact Mod
DFa_UpDnRot
Supplement to V16B1 (JSGME)

Any and all help to solve this problem is appreciated.
SilentwayIII

THEBERBSTER · 06-28-17, 05:44 PM

Hi silentway
Your problem would suggest that you have had a Windows update.
The problem you are describing seems to be appearing everyday now on Subsim.
There does not seem to be a common fix that works for everyone.
Check this thread out.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=232036
Also check out my SH3 signature as you will find information at the beginning of the tutorials.
Peter

hauangua · 06-28-17, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentwayIII

Yesterday SH3 loaded, NYGM version, but except for music there were no graphics displayed. I have win10 (64 bit version) installed and an Nvidia card with 2 gigs of memory. The last time I played the game (one week ago) everything worked great! Tried to figure out why it wasn't working any longer by reloading my mods one by one.

I used a basic version of the patched game...it loaded.
I installed all of the NYGM files...the game loaded.
When I loaded Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final and
Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final - FILES for NYGM v3.6D the program lost all visuals.

What I had installed that worked in the past:
NYGM Tonnage War V2.5 – Stand Alone Version
NYGM3_0
NYGM3_1
NYGM3_2
NYGM3_3B
NYGM3_3C
NYGM3_4A
NYGM3_5
NYGM3_6D
IABL Ships for NYGM
M.E.P v6
M.E.P v6 - VisualSensors for NYGM 3.6F
Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final
Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final - FILES for NYGM v3.6D
Fubar XXIupdate
New XXI Crew
FuMB37XXIII NEW for XXI_44
Restore Gods Eye View
Single Merchant Contact Mod
DFa_UpDnRot
Supplement to V16B1 (JSGME)

Any and all help to solve this problem is appreciated.
SilentwayIII

In Your list MOD...

NYGM3_0
NYGM3_1
NYGM3_2
NYGM3_3B
NYGM3_3C
NYGM3_4A
NYGM3_5

what are these??

Please post screenshot of your jsgme MOD. List
I think you have wrong with NYGM installation

This is correct install order :

1-NYGM Tonnage War V2.5 – Stand Alone
2-NYGM3_New
3-NYGM3_6F
4-NYGM_2017A
5-IABLShipsforNYGM_New_Thomsen
6-Now you can add other MOD (MEP6 for example )
And last
-HSIE_V16B1(supplement to V16B1)
-Stiebler4C_Addon_for_V16B1
-EnvSim10 this must be the last MOD installed (with .exe patched inside)

I hope this can help

Rickster1 · 06-29-17, 03:00 AM

I have had this problem on and off after win10 updates over the last 2 months with sh3 and sh5 and coldwaters if the game has not been run for few days up to a week, it just seems to write itself after restarting the pc not always the next time but sometimes day or 2 later, I hate win10.

hauangua · 06-29-17, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickster1

I have had this problem on and off after win10 updates over the last 2 months with sh3 and sh5 and coldwaters if the game has not been run for few days up to a week, it just seems to write itself after restarting the pc not always the next time but sometimes day or 2 later, I hate win10.

You have windows 10 updated 1703?
Invidia Or ATI - Radeoon?

jaxa · 06-29-17, 04:12 AM

It's well known problem with Win10 Creators Update.
After that I can't play with any widescreen gui - using stock resolution everything is ok.

THEBERBSTER · 06-29-17, 04:44 AM

Hi jaxa
Widescreen GUI in LSH3-2015 works perfectly with Windows 10 Creator v1703 once I rolled back the updated driver.
Post #17 GPU Driver Roll Back To A Previous Version

Another noticeable action that also maybe needed is to disable HIGH DPI Scaling on your SH3.exe.
Peter

jaxa · 06-29-17, 05:17 AM

That's interesting, thanks for info.
I play with GWX, so rather can't use LSH stuff for it, but could you explain me how to disable high dpi scaling on sh3.exe?

THEBERBSTER · 06-29-17, 10:57 AM

Hi jaxa
This is for SH3 version.
SH3 and Windows 10 use compatibility mode Windows 7
Run any .exe Application as administrators.
Override DPI High scaling.
Right click with your mouse to open the SH3.exe
Open Properties and then compatibility.

Peter

silentwayIII · 06-29-17, 09:47 PM

Hauanqua: Thanks for your reply. The mod order I posted worked for me until the win10 update of 10-15 days ago. All of the different NYGM mods are in the correct order and this configuration worked before.

The Ahnenerbe wideGUI 1920x1080 is what I use. The d3d9 config file is set with the correct display width and display height. But when the display comes up, and there is sound, the program is in full screen resolution but at 1024x768. I suspect maybe the dll for the Ahnenerbe mod needs to be tweaked in order for it to work properly since the big win10 update.

I tried rolling back to an earlier driver...windows 10 would not let me.
I tried reloading directx 9.0c windows 10 did not let me.

I will keep experimenting, but the options are looking slim.

THEBERBSTER · 06-30-17, 06:29 AM

Hi silentway
I do not understand why you were not able to roll back your driver?
Did you follow my tutorial instructions?
If Windows updated your driver then your previous one should be there to roll back.
Can you tell me what your current driver version is?
Is it one of the latest 382.?? ones?

In the main cfg file my video resolution shows 1920 x 1020 even though the monitor native resolution is 1920 x 1080
Full screen = yes

1024 x 768 4.3 aspect ratio default setting for original game resolutions for VGA monitors.

d3d9 config settings (LSH3 widescreen gui mod)
[ENGINE]
ForceResOverride=true
DisplayWidth=1360
DisplayHeight=768
FullScreen=true

Peter

jaxa · 06-30-17, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Hi jaxa
This is for SH3 version.
SH3 and Windows 10 use compatibility mode Windows 7
Run any .exe Application as administrators.
Override DPI High scaling.
Right click with your mouse to open the SH3.exe
Open Properties and then compatibility.

Peter

Unfortunately, it doesn't work

silentwayIII · 07-01-17, 02:07 PM

Thanks for the reply TheBerbster. The driver is 382.05. Windows does not let me roll it back. I tried making changes as per SH3 properties and compatability. I used your example, but it did not work.

THEBERBSTER · 07-01-17, 02:16 PM

Hi silentway
The 382.05 driver is the one that is causing all the problems.
I only know of one person who has not had problems with this driver.
My advice would be to go on the internet and download a driver that is compatible.
382.05 NO 4.5.2017
381.89 NO 25.4.2017
381.65 NO 6.4.2017
378.92 YES 20.3.2017
376.33 YES 14.12.2016
352.63 YES
376.53 YES Dec 2016

Peter

silentwayIII · 07-01-17, 02:28 PM

Hi TheBerbster, I downloaded the 378.92 driver two days ago and tried loading it. Windows10 did not let me load it. Is there another way of getting it loaded in win10?

06-28-17, 05:44 PM	#2
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi silentway Your problem would suggest that you have had a Windows update. The problem you are describing seems to be appearing everyday now on Subsim. There does not seem to be a common fix that works for everyone. Check this thread out. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=232036 Also check out my SH3 signature as you will find information at the beginning of the tutorials. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

06-29-17, 03:00 AM	#4
Rickster1 Chief Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 320 Downloads: 508 Uploads: 0	same I have had this problem on and off after win10 updates over the last 2 months with sh3 and sh5 and coldwaters if the game has not been run for few days up to a week, it just seems to write itself after restarting the pc not always the next time but sometimes day or 2 later, I hate win10.

06-29-17, 04:12 AM	#6
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,485 Downloads: 413 Uploads: 0	It's well known problem with Win10 Creators Update. After that I can't play with any widescreen gui - using stock resolution everything is ok. __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

06-29-17, 04:44 AM	#7
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi jaxa Widescreen GUI in LSH3-2015 works perfectly with Windows 10 Creator v1703 once I rolled back the updated driver. Post #17 GPU Driver Roll Back To A Previous Version Another noticeable action that also maybe needed is to disable HIGH DPI Scaling on your SH3.exe. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

06-29-17, 05:17 AM	#8
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,485 Downloads: 413 Uploads: 0	That's interesting, thanks for info. I play with GWX, so rather can't use LSH stuff for it, but could you explain me how to disable high dpi scaling on sh3.exe? __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

06-28-17, 05:05 PM	#1
silentwayIII Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 135 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	No graphics for SH3 Yesterday SH3 loaded, NYGM version, but except for music there were no graphics displayed. I have win10 (64 bit version) installed and an Nvidia card with 2 gigs of memory. The last time I played the game (one week ago) everything worked great! Tried to figure out why it wasn't working any longer by reloading my mods one by one. I used a basic version of the patched game...it loaded. I installed all of the NYGM files...the game loaded. When I loaded Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final and Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final - FILES for NYGM v3.6D the program lost all visuals. What I had installed that worked in the past: NYGM Tonnage War V2.5 – Stand Alone Version NYGM3_0 NYGM3_1 NYGM3_2 NYGM3_3B NYGM3_3C NYGM3_4A NYGM3_5 NYGM3_6D IABL Ships for NYGM M.E.P v6 M.E.P v6 - VisualSensors for NYGM 3.6F Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final - FILES for NYGM v3.6D Fubar XXIupdate New XXI Crew FuMB37XXIII NEW for XXI_44 Restore Gods Eye View Single Merchant Contact Mod DFa_UpDnRot Supplement to V16B1 (JSGME) Any and all help to solve this problem is appreciated. SilentwayIII

06-29-17, 10:57 AM	#9
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi jaxa This is for SH3 version. SH3 and Windows 10 use compatibility mode Windows 7 Run any .exe Application as administrators. Override DPI High scaling. Right click with your mouse to open the SH3.exe Open Properties and then compatibility. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

06-29-17, 09:47 PM	#10
silentwayIII Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 135 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	What I notice with changes Hauanqua: Thanks for your reply. The mod order I posted worked for me until the win10 update of 10-15 days ago. All of the different NYGM mods are in the correct order and this configuration worked before. The Ahnenerbe wideGUI 1920x1080 is what I use. The d3d9 config file is set with the correct display width and display height. But when the display comes up, and there is sound, the program is in full screen resolution but at 1024x768. I suspect maybe the dll for the Ahnenerbe mod needs to be tweaked in order for it to work properly since the big win10 update. I tried rolling back to an earlier driver...windows 10 would not let me. I tried reloading directx 9.0c windows 10 did not let me. I will keep experimenting, but the options are looking slim.

06-30-17, 06:29 AM	#11
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi silentway I do not understand why you were not able to roll back your driver? Did you follow my tutorial instructions? If Windows updated your driver then your previous one should be there to roll back. Can you tell me what your current driver version is? Is it one of the latest 382.?? ones? In the main cfg file my video resolution shows 1920 x 1020 even though the monitor native resolution is 1920 x 1080 Full screen = yes 1024 x 768 4.3 aspect ratio default setting for original game resolutions for VGA monitors. d3d9 config settings (LSH3 widescreen gui mod) [ENGINE] ForceResOverride=true DisplayWidth=1360 DisplayHeight=768 FullScreen=true Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

07-01-17, 02:07 PM	#13
silentwayIII Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 135 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	no graphics Thanks for the reply TheBerbster. The driver is 382.05. Windows does not let me roll it back. I tried making changes as per SH3 properties and compatability. I used your example, but it did not work.

07-01-17, 02:16 PM	#14
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi silentway The 382.05 driver is the one that is causing all the problems. I only know of one person who has not had problems with this driver. My advice would be to go on the internet and download a driver that is compatible. 382.05 NO 4.5.2017 381.89 NO 25.4.2017 381.65 NO 6.4.2017 378.92 YES 20.3.2017 376.33 YES 14.12.2016 352.63 YES 376.53 YES Dec 2016 Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

07-01-17, 02:28 PM	#15
silentwayIII Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 135 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	No graphics Hi TheBerbster, I downloaded the 378.92 driver two days ago and tried loading it. Windows10 did not let me load it. Is there another way of getting it loaded in win10?