[TEC] No clouds

propbeanie · 03-22-18, 11:20 AM

The MIS files engines847, are in the "GameFolder/ Data/ Campaigns/ CampaignGE/ CampaignData" folder. However, a couple things:

1. That usually is NOT the problem. Starting a Career will usually result in a "fresh" start, which includes the weather. Generally speaking, that includes sunshine and minimal clouds. As the game progresses, the weather will change. There is a "default" value for that somewhere, but I do not recall where. Usually speaking, after you're out a few days, you see the weather changing. On the Fleetboat side, I took off for Empire Waters from Pearl, nary a cloud in the sky for almost 10 days. Then it clouded-up, seas got rough, and we went into typhoon mode all within about a 12 hour period. Then it stormed for over 10 days and went right back to idyllic weather, unless you're driving a submarine in enemy-infested waters, trying to sink something and not be seen so well as to get sunk yourself...

2. You've got a Steam install in Win7. I've got that for SH5 and SH3. Steam can seem to be a bother when attempting to mod the game. However, it's a Windows issue... Where do you have the game installed? If you are in "C:\Program Files (x86)\ Steam...", we'll have you move it elsewhere (Steam "Library"). Let us know where you have the game installed and we'll go from there with that...

There was something else I was going to ask you, but oldmanitis strikes again, and the thought fell out of my ears onto the floor and runnd-off on me - that's "R-U-N-D, O-F-T...

engines847 · 03-22-18, 11:50 AM

Hi again propbeanie. Yes I've installed SH4 out of program files, you helped me with that a couple weeks ago. I found the MIS files but don't know which program to use to view them. Notepad doesn't display anything.

Edit: Since I posted this I had some partial clouds and light fog on the return voyage... Minor glitches with crew / submarine icons missing from their stations and I thought I had a problem with TI's bugging and exploding too early but it was just rough seas (didn't seem to be a problem before). Hopefully the missing icons isn't an ominous sign of what's to come, but I think the game is in a playable enough state for now. Thanks to all for the help.

propbeanie · 03-22-18, 03:53 PM

Ahhh yesh

, the oldmanitis ~again~...

In the meantime, Open Notepad, do the File, Open... and use the browser dialog to navigate to where your file is. Then, use the little file extension drop-down box, where it initially says "Text Documents (*.txt)", just above the "Open" button, and choose "All Files (*.*)" there, and you should now see all of the MIS files. You could also use Notepad++, which adds a choice to the Windows Explorer for "Edit in Notepad++" when you right-click a file name... I will just about guarantee you though, that almost all of the mis files will have the lines from above, verbatim:

Fog=0
FogRand=0
Clouds=0
CloudsRand=0
Precip=0
PrecipRand=0
WindHeading=0
WindSpeed=5.000000
WindRand=0
WeatherRndInterval=5
SeaType=0

Those are the "default" values...

Imarider · 04-07-18, 08:45 AM

If you want clouds with some random variations, set in each (for sure) campaign . mis file following: Clouds=1, CloudsRand=2

arief.satriyo · 04-26-19, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

The MIS files engines847, are in the "GameFolder/ Data/ Campaigns/ CampaignGE/ CampaignData" folder. However, a couple things:

Which .mis file you were referring was that..?

I've got 106 .mis files in that directory.

After I've installed OMEGU the water change into cartoonish looking and the weather (along with the clouds) also gone.

propbeanie · 04-26-19, 10:48 PM

Yeah, I don't use OMEGU on top of OM anymore because of that same issue on my computer. But yes, those are the mis files. You wouldn't have to mess with the ones in that main folder though, maybe go through the folders and mis files in the PatrolObjectives folder, and change a few of those. Those are the files that load when you get assigned a patrol, and would be the last file loaded (I think...

- a mind is a terrible thing to waste). I wouldn't even mess with those though, unless you want to do the North Sea ones, and have some rough weather up there...

Fifi · 04-27-19, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arief.satriyo

After I've installed OMEGU the water change into cartoonish looking and the weather (along with the clouds) also gone.

Without OMEGU, water is back to awful vanilla cartoonish here...it’s a no go!
OMEGU environment rendering is almost as nice as the FOTRSU one (on my computer anyway)
I’ve got weather changes all the 2/3 days (with clouds or not) as far as i play no more than X1024 TC.

I could try to borrow FOTRSU environment in place of OMEGU files just to see any improvements , but i suspect all the OM sensors for AI and player are set for OMEGU...and could brake the gameplay.

propbeanie · 04-27-19, 08:04 AM

On my computer, FotRSU looks fantastic, and OMEGU looks like someone sneezed blue saturation. Which video card do you have Fifi? I've got an nVidia 560ti on the one, and onboard Intel on the laptop. I have not tried OMEGU on the new laptop or the old (old old) desktop with its even older ATI AIW... Your screen shots look fantastic.

Fifi · 04-27-19, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

On my computer, FotRSU looks fantastic, and OMEGU looks like someone sneezed blue saturation. Which video card do you have Fifi? I've got an nVidia 560ti on the one, and onboard Intel on the laptop. I have not tried OMEGU on the new laptop or the old (old old) desktop with its even older ATI AIW... Your screen shots look fantastic.

...and i’m Always disappointed by my screen shot! The rendering is always better watching screen live

I have an Nvidia 1050 Ti and a really good Samsung SynchMaster SA 850 for the screen rendering.

propbeanie · 04-27-19, 09:48 AM

Very nice, but a similar set-up to mine - just over twice as powerful -

... May-haps I'll have to dig OMEGU out once again, and see what it looks like now...

arief.satriyo · 04-27-19, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

You wouldn't have to mess with the ones in that main folder though, maybe go through the folders and mis files in the PatrolObjectives folder, and change a few of those. Those are the files that load when you get assigned a patrol, and would be the last file loaded (I think...

- a mind is a terrible thing to waste). I wouldn't even mess with those though, unless you want to do the North Sea ones, and have some rough weather up there...

I only playing as part of Gruppe Monsun that operate mostly in Indian Ocean. Which .mis file should I edit for that purpose..?

And what, how those value (in .mis file) change the weather..?

I'm looking to recreate realistic weather here particularly in Indian Ocean

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

OMEGU looks like someone sneezed blue saturation.

Yeach that also how the water look like for me

propbeanie · 04-27-19, 06:12 PM

I wouldn't bother with editing the mis files, and I do not recall which files are actually used for the Monsun Gruppe boats. There are all sorts of "Indian Ocean" PatrolObjectives files, but most of the ones from Stock are not used, so it's almost a waste of your time to try and edit the files.

I would be very tempted, if it was my computer and SH4 install, to de-activate all of the OMEGU and OM mods. Then un-install Silent Hunter 4 from the computer. Then delete the "C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4" folder, or where ever you happen to have your Save folder. After that, re-install SH4, making certain to NOT put it in a Program Files folder. Edit the install path yourself, and install in a folder you made. Then bring back in JSGME, LAA (read CapnScurvy's Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install thread) & MultiSH4 (if you use it). Run JSGME and use the "Create snapshot" ~before~ you add any mods.

After that, add your mods, being certain that the folders are all correct. Look-out for folders double-named, such as "MODS \ OMv705_to_V720 \ OMv705_to_V720", and remember that some of lurker_hlb3's mods are inside a "collection" folder, such as the "OMEGU_v300_pkg", which holds eight (8) mods inside of it...

I would do the "base" OM, updates and patches only initially, and see what it looks like. Delete the Save folder again, and add-in OMEGU, updates and patches and run it again. Then you could add in other mods and see what things look like. Be sure to delete the Save folder between changes!

03-22-18, 11:20 AM	#1
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,762 Downloads: 441 Uploads: 2	The MIS files engines847, are in the "GameFolder/ Data/ Campaigns/ CampaignGE/ CampaignData" folder. However, a couple things: 1. That usually is NOT the problem. Starting a Career will usually result in a "fresh" start, which includes the weather. Generally speaking, that includes sunshine and minimal clouds. As the game progresses, the weather will change. There is a "default" value for that somewhere, but I do not recall where. Usually speaking, after you're out a few days, you see the weather changing. On the Fleetboat side, I took off for Empire Waters from Pearl, nary a cloud in the sky for almost 10 days. Then it clouded-up, seas got rough, and we went into typhoon mode all within about a 12 hour period. Then it stormed for over 10 days and went right back to idyllic weather, unless you're driving a submarine in enemy-infested waters, trying to sink something and not be seen so well as to get sunk yourself... 2. You've got a Steam install in Win7. I've got that for SH5 and SH3. Steam can seem to be a bother when attempting to mod the game. However, it's a Windows issue... Where do you have the game installed? If you are in "C:\Program Files (x86)\ Steam...", we'll have you move it elsewhere (Steam "Library"). Let us know where you have the game installed and we'll go from there with that... There was something else I was going to ask you, but oldmanitis strikes again, and the thought fell out of my ears onto the floor and runnd-off on me - that's "R-U-N-D, O-F-T... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

03-22-18, 11:50 AM	#2
engines847 Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 11 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Hi again propbeanie. Yes I've installed SH4 out of program files, you helped me with that a couple weeks ago. I found the MIS files but don't know which program to use to view them. Notepad doesn't display anything. Edit: Since I posted this I had some partial clouds and light fog on the return voyage... Minor glitches with crew / submarine icons missing from their stations and I thought I had a problem with TI's bugging and exploding too early but it was just rough seas (didn't seem to be a problem before). Hopefully the missing icons isn't an ominous sign of what's to come, but I think the game is in a playable enough state for now. Thanks to all for the help. Last edited by engines847; 03-22-18 at 03:41 PM.

03-22-18, 03:53 PM	#3
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,762 Downloads: 441 Uploads: 2	Ahhh yesh , the oldmanitis ~again~... In the meantime, Open Notepad, do the File, Open... and use the browser dialog to navigate to where your file is. Then, use the little file extension drop-down box, where it initially says "Text Documents (.txt)", just above the "Open" button, and choose "All Files (.*)" there, and you should now see all of the MIS files. You could also use Notepad++, which adds a choice to the Windows Explorer for "Edit in Notepad++" when you right-click a file name... I will just about guarantee you though, that almost all of the mis files will have the lines from above, verbatim: Fog=0 FogRand=0 Clouds=0 CloudsRand=0 Precip=0 PrecipRand=0 WindHeading=0 WindSpeed=5.000000 WindRand=0 WeatherRndInterval=5 SeaType=0 Those are the "default" values... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

04-26-19, 10:48 PM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,762 Downloads: 441 Uploads: 2	Yeah, I don't use OMEGU on top of OM anymore because of that same issue on my computer. But yes, those are the mis files. You wouldn't have to mess with the ones in that main folder though, maybe go through the folders and mis files in the PatrolObjectives folder, and change a few of those. Those are the files that load when you get assigned a patrol, and would be the last file loaded (I think... - a mind is a terrible thing to waste). I wouldn't even mess with those though, unless you want to do the North Sea ones, and have some rough weather up there... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

04-27-19, 08:04 AM	#8
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,762 Downloads: 441 Uploads: 2	On my computer, FotRSU looks fantastic, and OMEGU looks like someone sneezed blue saturation. Which video card do you have Fifi? I've got an nVidia 560ti on the one, and onboard Intel on the laptop. I have not tried OMEGU on the new laptop or the old (old old) desktop with its even older ATI AIW... Your screen shots look fantastic. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

04-07-18, 08:45 AM	#4
Imarider Mate Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 51 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	If you want clouds with some random variations, set in each (for sure) campaign . mis file following: Clouds=1, CloudsRand=2

04-27-19, 09:48 AM	#10
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,762 Downloads: 441 Uploads: 2	Very nice, but a similar set-up to mine - just over twice as powerful - ... May-haps I'll have to dig OMEGU out once again, and see what it looks like now... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

04-27-19, 06:12 PM	#12
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,762 Downloads: 441 Uploads: 2	I wouldn't bother with editing the mis files, and I do not recall which files are actually used for the Monsun Gruppe boats. There are all sorts of "Indian Ocean" PatrolObjectives files, but most of the ones from Stock are not used, so it's almost a waste of your time to try and edit the files. I would be very tempted, if it was my computer and SH4 install, to de-activate all of the OMEGU and OM mods. Then un-install Silent Hunter 4 from the computer. Then delete the "C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4" folder, or where ever you happen to have your Save folder. After that, re-install SH4, making certain to NOT put it in a Program Files folder. Edit the install path yourself, and install in a folder you made. Then bring back in JSGME, LAA (read CapnScurvy's Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install thread) & MultiSH4 (if you use it). Run JSGME and use the "Create snapshot" ~before~ you add any mods. After that, add your mods, being certain that the folders are all correct. Look-out for folders double-named, such as "MODS \ OMv705_to_V720 \ OMv705_to_V720", and remember that some of lurker_hlb3's mods are inside a "collection" folder, such as the "OMEGU_v300_pkg", which holds eight (8) mods inside of it... I would do the "base" OM, updates and patches only initially, and see what it looks like. Delete the Save folder again, and add-in OMEGU, updates and patches and run it again. Then you could add in other mods and see what things look like. Be sure to delete the Save folder between changes! __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna