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Old 12-13-15, 09:26 PM   #526
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Turkey refuses to pull out its troops from Iraq, even as the Iraqi Government told them to. And Iraq complained to the UN about it. Now Erdogbone explains why he won't pull out his heavily armed unit. Because he has to protect Sunni's from the Shia dominated Govt in Baghdad. Who the heck does he think he is? Already protests are occurring in Baghdad, and some Shia backed militias are ready to fight Turkish troops near Mosul. Why are troops near Mosul, is he going to provide Daesh's leader, Bagaddy a way out if things go south?

Just another day in the centuries long war between Shia and Sunni. Why were we so stupid to get sucked into this never ending mess!

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/1...215017789.html
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Old 12-13-15, 10:14 PM   #527
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Just another day in the centuries long war between Shia and Sunni. Why were we so stupid to get sucked into this never ending mess!
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Old 12-14-15, 09:23 AM   #528
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Either which way, is it really worth going Third Reich over?
Who is going Third Reich over it?

Are you referring to what you said earlier?
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Don't you see? This is how it starts, by making them subhuman so it's easier for us to do things to them that we wouldn't dream of doing to others. Even down to the language that's used.
I'm not sure people are on the same page here.
Some yell "Nazi!" way too quickly, while most simply feel their country's stability and security threatened by an ideology(!) - and rightly so - not by people of a certain skin color or from a certain country. The goal is not to destroy anyone, the goal is to keep Europe clean from dangerous ideologies.

Saying this, I can hear people mumbling catchphrases like "Islamophob!".
The term of "Islamophobia" and all the other nice argument-ejection-seats from the, mostly, left side of this debate sure start to get old when not a day goes by where we can all see what this certain ideology causes.
Just today, someone attacked a Kindergarten teacher with a knife/sharp object, trying to cut his throat (unsuccessfully), saying that "this was just the beginning!".
Surprise, he is muslim.
Oh wait: "Terror has no religion!" really!?
This isn't directed at you Oberon, I'm aware you don't fall for this crap, but so many do. So many just repeat what others injected them without thinking for themselves or because they are too afraid to say something that doesn't go along with the expected political correctness of these days.

And I still don't see Buddhists or Christians yelling "God/Buddha is great!" while trying to brutally murder anyone who doesn't agree and as long as this doesn't happen, let's not bring other ideologies into this.
There is one that causes problems right now, that does indeed seem to be dangerous, very much so.

But sure, let's rather find mostly cheap excuses to protect an ideology that would crush everything the west stands for right away, if it only could.

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Old 12-14-15, 09:58 AM   #529
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Q:I see my neighborhood changing and it worries me.

A: All muslims are not the problem.

Q: I dont feel safe in my neighborhood anymore.

A: How dare you say all muslims are the problem

Q: I view the the current islamic ideology as something dangerous.

A: Just replace Islamic with Jewish and you sound just like a nazi.

Q: Islamic ideology reminds me of nazisim.

A: Takes one to know one.

Q: My parents have been assaulted by immigrants.

A: All muslims are not the problem.

Q: I wish my government would stop permitting so many immigrants to enter.

A: All muslims are not the problem.

Q: I never said all muslims are the problem.

A: So what's your problem then?

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Old 12-14-15, 10:37 AM   #530
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Q:I see my neighborhood changing and it worries me.

A: All muslims are not the problem.

Q: I dont feel safe in my neighborhood anymore.

A: How dare you say all muslims are the problem

Q: I view the the current islamic ideology as something dangerous.

A: Just replace Islamic with Jewish and you sound just like a nazi.

Q: Islamic ideology reminds me of nazisim.

A: Takes one to know one.

Q: My parents have been assaulted by immigrants.

A: All muslims are not the problem.

Q: I wish my government would stop permitting so many immigrants to enter.

A: All muslims are not the problem.

Q: I never said all muslims are the problem.

A: So what's your problem then?


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Old 12-14-15, 10:51 AM   #531
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The Donald and Ted 'Zee Wango Zee Tango' Nugent for the 2016 ticket.
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Old 12-14-15, 11:44 AM   #532
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I can't wait for trump to get elected...and be referred to as The Donald
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Old 12-14-15, 12:08 PM   #533
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Just today, someone attacked a Kindergarten teacher with a knife/sharp object, trying to cut his throat (unsuccessfully), saying that "this was just the beginning!".
Surprise, he is muslim.
To stay fair it seems this was a hoax.
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/fra...ehrer-103.html
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Old 12-14-15, 12:16 PM   #534
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To stay fair it seems this was a hoax.
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/fra...ehrer-103.html
That sucks, there's no need for this crap.
My point still stands, daily news regarding the religion of peace.
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Old 12-14-15, 12:26 PM   #535
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Q:I see my neighborhood changing and it worries me.

A: All muslims are not the problem.

Q: I dont feel safe in my neighborhood anymore.

A: How dare you say all muslims are the problem

Q: I view the the current islamic ideology as something dangerous.

A: Just replace Islamic with Jewish and you sound just like a nazi.

Q: Islamic ideology reminds me of nazisim.

A: Takes one to know one.

Q: My parents have been assaulted by immigrants.

A: All muslims are not the problem.

Q: I wish my government would stop permitting so many immigrants to enter.

A: All muslims are not the problem.

Q: I never said all muslims are the problem.

A: So what's your problem then?


Are you happy enough in this conversation or would you like somebody else to talk to?


Bloody hell.

I also talk to myself in the shower. I don't believe it makes me a genius.
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Old 12-14-15, 12:31 PM   #536
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Are you happy enough in this conversation or would you like somebody else to talk to?


Bloody hell.

I also talk to myself in the shower. I don't believe it makes me a genius.
He has a point though.
These are answers we all heard before and you know exactly what he was trying to say - you just don't like it.
However, I can't say he's wrong there.
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Old 12-14-15, 12:32 PM   #537
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Old 12-14-15, 12:33 PM   #538
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You guys put words into my mouth that I have never said. I didn't call anyone anything.
I used a metaphor about a problem that becomes worse over time if nothing happens and that everyone is familiar with.
Hey I understand. I didn't read the pages and pages of posts beforehand. I'm very much not putting words in your mouth or trying to define what you did or did not say.

All I'm saying is that it's not the best way to describe a lot of people. We all know what it sounds like and there are good reasons to make a little effort to not sound like a bigot.

There are enough of those here anyway without the reasonable people coming across the same way.
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Old 12-14-15, 12:36 PM   #539
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You know what I'm very tired of? I'm very tired of people speaking on behalf of other people. You all seem like great experts in Islamic teaching and culture, knowing precisely nothing of it other than what a very skewed media feeds you, and regurgitating language that comes literally from the mouth of fascist ideologues who have defined it thus.

I am so beyond done with this forum No moderation, no effort to be in any way tolerant and friendly, and now even the admin is drinking the cool aid
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Old 12-14-15, 12:39 PM   #540
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He has a point though.
It's just a rubbish point. It's an exercise in self-congratulation dressed up as argument. If Rockstar keeps it up he'll go blind.

It boils down to - "people can be unreasonable". Except with a nice religious angle that makes us all feel warm and fuzzy inside.

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These are answers we all heard before and you know exactly what he was trying to say - you just don't like it.
Heard them before, maybe.

That doesn't make them either representative, worth repeating, indicative of what he's talking about, or informative in any way.

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However, I can't say he's wrong there.
Wrong about what? That some people have interacted this way? That's all that this could ever say. And of course that would be correct.

If the intent is to say that this is how the majority of these kind of interactions go, well then it's bigoted garbage that, again, isn't worth the TCP/IP packets.
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