[WIP] Type IX for sh5

mkiii · 10-24-17, 12:29 PM

I need a copy of granny viewer v2,8.33.0, has to be this version, I have scoured the web and cannot locate it, and its not avaliable for download at Granny`s website anymore (they probably pulled it because it was a goldmine of information of their GR2 format)

also some earlier versions of TDW`S GR2 Editor

ps, Gap empty your inbox mate

gap · 10-25-17, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mkiii

I need a copy of granny viewer v2,8.33.0, has to be this version

No, sorry, on my HD I have v2.9.1.0. Found v 2.8.38.0 at this link

you might ask for help in some of the Civilization forums maybe

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Originally Posted by mkiii

I have scoured the web and cannot locate it, and its not avaliable for download at Granny`s website anymore (they probably pulled it because it was a goldmine of information of their GR2 format)

Shhh... hopefully they don't read us

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Originally Posted by mkiii

also some earlier versions of TDW`S GR2 Editor

No problem on that.
I have the following versions:

1.1.272.1, 1.1.320.1, 1.1.332.1, 1.1.374.1, 1.1.400.1, 1.1.403.1, 1.1.404.1, 1.1.415.1, 1.1.418.1, , 1.1.447.1, 1.1.451.1, 1.1.453.1

Should I pack them all and send them your way?

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Originally Posted by mkiii

ps, Gap empty your inbox mate

mkiii · 10-25-17, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gap

No, sorry, on my HD I have v2.9.1.0. Found v 2.8.38.0 at this link

you might ask for help in some of the Civilization forums maybe

Shhh... hopefully they don't read us

No problem on that.
I have the following versions:

1.1.272.1, 1.1.320.1, 1.1.332.1, 1.1.374.1, 1.1.400.1, 1.1.403.1, 1.1.404.1, 1.1.415.1, 1.1.418.1, , 1.1.447.1, 1.1.451.1, 1.1.453.1

Should I pack them all and send them your way?

yes please Gap.

The granny is for decompressing a file, as far as I know that is the only version that works with the editor for that. tried all the versions I have found and none of them work

gap · 10-25-17, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mkiii

yes please Gap.

I have found a few more versions of the editor than I said before. Here they are:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/cb609...o_1_1_453_1.7z

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Originally Posted by mkiii

The granny is for decompressing a file, as far as I know that is the only version that works with the editor for that. tried all the versions I have found and none of them work

Try sending a PM to Jeff Groves. He might have that version of the viewer or he might point you in the right direction

mkiii · 10-26-17, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gap

I have found a few more versions of the editor than I said before. Here they are:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/cb609...o_1_1_453_1.7z

Try sending a PM to Jeff Groves. He might have that version of the viewer or he might point you in the right direction

Many thanks Gap.....That`s one file off the won`t open list, the other is compressed, hopefully Jeff will be able to help out with that.
the last one is sensors gr2, which is a lost cause, TDW knew what the problem was but never got round to sorting it out.

mkiii · 10-26-17, 12:30 PM

been looking at the files involved in putting the IX in game, as a uboat under its own name, apart from everything in the sub folder, I have

Roster....easy enough
Flotilla....should be easy enough
upcdatage....not to sure about this one

those are the obvious ones, are there any not so obvious ones that I have missed (highly likely)

gap · 10-26-17, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mkiii

been looking at the files involved in putting the IX in game, as a uboat under its own name, apart from everything in the sub folder, I have

Roster....easy enough
Flotilla....should be easy enough
upcdatage....not to sure about this one

those are the obvious ones, are there any not so obvious ones that I have missed (highly likely)

Vecko is your man here

vdr1981 · 10-27-17, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mkiii

been looking at the files involved in putting the IX in game, as a uboat under its own name, apart from everything in the sub folder, I have

Roster....easy enough
Flotilla....should be easy enough
upcdatage....not to sure about this one

those are the obvious ones, are there any not so obvious ones that I have missed (highly likely)

There shouldn't be so much work with UPCGE files after all, few ID designations here and there but that should be it. You'll get a good idea what is going on if you merge VIIC/41 and U-Flak's (NSS_Uboat7c41F) upcge files from TWoS in Winmerge or some other text editor with compare function...

In this case, you can ignore entries differences which are dedicated for radar upgrades but torpedo differences will be important since type IX carries much more torpedoes on board.

It will be also necessary to rename main 3D models names inside gr2 files it self because the game will confuse if you get awarded and upgrade from VIIC41 to type IX in the same playing session.
For example, your new IX hull should not be named NSS_Uboat7c41 anymore, conning tower should be renamed from Conning_7c41_01 to Conning_9D_01 ect...

We shouldn't forged all necessary adjustments in sim, zon and other controllers files as well...

In short, day or two of modding work but since we actually know what and how it should be done, this shouldn't be much of the problem...

Once you have fully working version of type IX replacement for VIIC41 it will be honor for me to do all the performances, campaign and file adjustments...

gap · 10-26-17, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mkiii

Many thanks Gap.....That`s one file off the won`t open list, the other is compressed, hopefully Jeff will be able to help out with that.
the last one is sensors gr2, which is a lost cause, TDW knew what the problem was but never got round to sorting it out.

Yep, to the best of my knowledge no version of GR2 editor can open that file. Besides that, what other file(s) are you trying to open?

I hope no new guns are required for the upcoming Type IX, because unfortunately animations are still a big no-no

mkiii · 10-26-17, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gap

Yep, to the best of my knowledge no version of GR2 editor can open that file. Besides that, what other file(s) are you trying to open?

I hope no new guns are required for the upcoming Type IX, because unfortunately animations are still a big no-no

the compressed file is ct periscope +anim.....may need to move the mesh, but can probably work around this if necessary.

no new guns, will use the stock ones. (but I may redo the textures) a lot of the in game textures look fugly on a 55" screen

I can open the sensors file, just can`t save it, something to do with datatype definitions in sec 6. and I seem to remember TDW altered that file for something and said not to let anything overwrite it, otherwise bad things would happen

10-24-17, 12:29 PM	#1
mkiii Soundman Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 149 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	I need a copy of granny viewer v2,8.33.0, has to be this version, I have scoured the web and cannot locate it, and its not avaliable for download at Granny`s website anymore (they probably pulled it because it was a goldmine of information of their GR2 format) also some earlier versions of TDW`S GR2 Editor ps, Gap empty your inbox mate

10-26-17, 12:30 PM	#6
mkiii Soundman Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 149 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	been looking at the files involved in putting the IX in game, as a uboat under its own name, apart from everything in the sub folder, I have Roster....easy enough Flotilla....should be easy enough upcdatage....not to sure about this one those are the obvious ones, are there any not so obvious ones that I have missed (highly likely)