You should not be so narrowminded, if you are an historian or an scientist

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Do you believe in a hell outside of our real world?

YOU'VE STILL GOT IT BACKWARDS; http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2584994&postcount=8210

[mapuc]

Science was not on my mind when I wrote this.

It was more a lesson in not being narrowminded but openminded when studying history or science/history science.

I like this program Ancient Aliens I see it as a as a non-scientific program
As I like this program Ancient impossible, which is more correct.

About this holy scripture our bible.

This can be read with religious glasses
It can also be read with Historical glasses
and Science glasses

and it is open to free interpretations
(In my world and my thread it is)

Markus

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by FullMetalADCAP

My response to SS with the facepalm is how he didn'tget the joke and instead followed up my original post of Hawking in Hell with yet another serious question.

You're right, I didn't get the joke. I didn't even notice the flames. My apologies.

[FullMetalADCAP]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Thats where you started, FullMetal ADCAP.

And thats what got Steve's and mine and some others'S alienated attention. Its a nonsense statement. And an affront to rational thinking and scientific methodology.

Humour as nothing to do with it. If it has, its so well hidden that nobody here seems to perceive it, with you being the exception maybe.


You could as well claim that astrology compliments physics and astronomy, if only you have an open mind. It doesn't. It corrupts it.

Someone made a claim that science and religion compliment each other. I took that as "coexist" together since that's synonymous.

SS asked "How so?"

Then I posted a JOKE of the two complimenting/coexisting together with Twisted humor of Hawking burning in Hell. I was SURE that people would see the twisted humor in that and simply... laugh. Maybe even just smile. Making anything more of it is asinine! Trolling SS?! Don't flatter yourself!

So then SS posted a serious question to me asking if Hawking had said the two could compliment/coexist and that let me know he didn't get the twisted humor joke of what I posted. He probably took it as an attack on himself - ALWAYS looking for the worst in people and assuming they mean him harm when all they were meaning to do was make people laugh and smile in here.

So i posted the facepalm post asking Jesus to give me strength because it's frustrating when someone can't understand or spot blatant humor because they are just so serious all the time and looking for trouble where none exists, ALWAYS assuming the worst in people's intentions when none was meant.

Too many sensitive folks here who've got their old boys club going on that see everyone else new as trouble and an invader of THEIR space.

You know what, I'm done. I'm out. Got better things to do than hang out with a bunch of old sticks in the mud who just want to assume things and look for the worst in people. Not sure why that's the climate on here but it is what it is so I'll just leave y'all alone to yourselves.

Please deactivate my account Neal. I don't want to be a member on here any longer. Thanks.

[Buddahaid]

You need to understand that what you see as an obvious joke isn't always obvious to someone outside your thought process. I didn't know if it was a joke or you felt scientists were going to hell. Make it obvious and there isn't a problem.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

YOU'VE STILL GOT IT BACKWARDS; http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2584994&postcount=8210

Hey i agree we already live in a kind of hell. I just gave up the idea that some people would ever enter a hell as described by some in the 'afterlife', being finally held responsible for what they did "here" (while here is relative of course, dimensions, time and space and all that what).

Back to topic. @Mapuc: Yes, all are narrow-minded when it comes to their personal state of mind and reception of the world, and scientists are no exception. But when i think of Erich Daeniken (i think he was the first (pseudo) scientist to claim that aliens werer here and formed us) at least his observations have all been debunked. Evidence and reason can kill the best phantasies..
(until Trump, at least. . Which of course describes *my* personal narrow-mindedness, if you so want)

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Do you believe in a hell outside of our real world?

Sometimes I wonder if hell isn't moderating a forum...

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Sometimes I wonder if hell isn't moderating a forum...

What in the hell is that suppose to mean Just kiding

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

My question was directed at the comment that the Bible and science compliment each other. Did Stephen Hawking say anything that supports that?

Am I too late to weigh in ... ?

How could Stephen Hawking have anything to say about who God is if he doesn't even believe in God or I should say while he was alive ... ?

I bet he has a lot to say by now, but we can not hear him on the other side

[Platapus]

With a sufficient amount of

1. Slaves
2. Motivation
3. Time

Wondrous things can be constructed.

[Skybird]

Fulmetal ADCAP, I must apologize to you. I failed, but differently than anyone here can imagine. I somehow completely missed that the post by firefighter - was not by you , i memorized his post and yours as postings from one and the same person - you. I took you two for one and the same person. So you were taking the return that was intended for him.


Completely my own fault, all blame on me. I'm sorry.

[Platapus]

One of the advantages of science is the ability to admit "we don't know".

Not knowing motivates research to find out

So many things are discovered simply by smart people admitting that they don't know and being bothered by it.

[fireftr18]

Originally Posted by fireftr18

Reminds me of an observation I made a few years ago. In Bible study class, after going over the creation story in depth, I started thinking back to my science classes in school, and the recent science based TV shows. When looking at science and The Bible with an open mind, you can see that they compliment each other instead of contradicting each other.

My little comment created a fire storm. I certainly didn't intend for that to happen and apologize.
Sailor Steve asked the question, "How so?"
The Bible side tells the story of creation from a faith based, largely moral lesson view point. The details of the process used isn't important. The importance is that God caused the events.
The science side tells the same story detailing the process of how the universe, and eventually Earth and mankind evolved. Who caused the process and the reason why isn't important.
It's kind of like saying God made plants green because he knew that would be the most pleasing color for plants, and science says plants are green because the chemicals that make up chlorophyll cause it to have a green color, and enough chlorophyll are in plants to cause them to be green.
I hope my brief explanation helps you understand my position.
Thanks for asking the question.

[Skybird]

I still think that comparison makes no sense.

[fireftr18]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I still think that comparison makes no sense.

I apologize. I guess my little explanation really doesn't explain my point. I don't know how to explain better. The creation story and scientific explanation parallel each other, not perfect, but mostly so. I guess studying Genesis in depth with the proper guidance will help understand.

[Sailor Steve]

I studied Genesis in depth for years, and I see no parallel at all. I might be missing something, but I have no clue what it is.