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08-01-17, 09:02 AM | #1 |
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I don't have a quote handy but I did catch a post stating that the game will still retain the option for players to manually drive their boats.
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08-01-17, 01:16 PM | #2 |
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Yeah. It's been said several times so far that the new navigation options will coexist with the manual ones. So it's a win-win.
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08-01-17, 01:26 PM | #3 |
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Well that was pretty smart of them! Good on ya KF.
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08-02-17, 02:31 PM | #4 | |||
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I'll one-up you there - it doesn't SEEM to not be a good thing... it IS not a good thing. Is very bad to drag ADM Uptisquats Towed Array.... is VERY bad.
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Aside from possibly losing it on the bottom, I imagine it would probably be important WHERE it was lost, I can't imagine anybody being too thrilled with a gift like that being left off Murmansk ect. At the same time, I do recall HMS Conqueror being reportedly involved in a secret op to steal a Soviet TA with a "cow-catcher" type assembly added to the bow of the boat, I could easily see the Soviets trying to do the same thing (I think they did that to a frigate at some point if I'm not mistaken). One thing I would propose though, because I think it would make for a great addition to the game, at the initial "contact encounter" screen before the battle starts (where you can choose to close range and what not) I think that it would be good if we could pick the state of the TA here (streamed or stowed) as well as being told about the depth under the keel to help you make your decision.
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08-02-17, 03:59 PM | #6 |
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US Submarines since 1945 states that the reason the USN went for the retractable design was experience with the clip-ons getting damaged by extended high-speed runs (such as transiting the Pacific) and particularily shark bites.
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08-02-17, 09:12 PM | #7 | ||
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And still is. When I worked at IMF in Bangor, WA, I worked in the TA shop, and there is still (best of my knowledge) a collection of shark teeth that have been pulled from TB-16 arrays over the years. They sometimes still come home with arrays that have been torn to shreds.
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And yes. Shark bites are, were, and will likely always be a problem with Towed Arrays.
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08-03-17, 05:47 AM | #8 |
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The towed array already stops working if you're less than 200ft off the bottom, the assumption being it is being dragged. Now you can abstract that as it being retrieved if you want to, since it does not actually render (still haven't figured out a way to do so that doesn't have huge issues). Disallowing the array because shallow waters, I don't particularily feel like penalizing the player just because combat takes place in the shallows.
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08-21-17, 01:57 PM | #9 |
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On the boat that i was on we had the both the towed and the thinline arrays I dont recall any sharks trying to bite them what i do remember is that they had some boyency just to keep them from running afoul of the screw but even so you wouldnt want to do a hard right rudder with a down bubble. and chew on the array with the prop.
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