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Old 02-02-17, 07:30 AM   #1
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I agree, but I wouldn't say it's I'll-intend by them. It is normal that one us more passionate about ones countries stuff and Russians are very nationalistic anyways (often).
The Kilo and typhoon for exampke are drop dead gorgeous and show that dw can still be sexy. But yes, the us boats are really...ugh...
When playing the Kilo I get so upset if my target is a Virginia and it looks just so horribly....I mean the benefit of eye candy isn't only for the sub you're driving but also your targets.

It's politics I believe that's stopping RA team to give us better American 3D models and textures. Naval passion knows no nationality. I cheerish Chinese subs as much as I cherish American and Russian submarines in the game.

Japanese subs look really sweet though in RA. Virginia hurts my eyes......Ohio has very bad textures and propeller. Could benefit from a new 3D-model too.
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Old 02-02-17, 09:27 AM   #2
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Virginia and Ohio definitely should have priority by anyone wanting to do something. It's like with guns. I can't shoot them when I can't even look at them...
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Old 02-02-17, 09:53 AM   #3
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I disagree with you. last version RA have very nice new models for US warships:
- Gearing DD
- Belknap CG
- Truxtun CGN
- Albany CG
- Long Beach CGN
- Virginia CGN
and airplanes:
- A-4A Skyhawk
- F-8 Crusader

Did you notice them?
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Old 02-02-17, 06:23 PM   #4
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This thread should not turn into discourse about which side 3d models are better or inferior. And sure suggesting any bias would be really a stretch. RA Team did tremendous job into DW improvements in ALL categories far exceeding just graphics.
In fact their commitment and truly magnificent effort with Reinforced Alert project should be to all of us as a bright example to try to contribute time and talents.

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Old 02-02-17, 10:03 PM   #5
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I disagree with you. last version RA have very nice new models for US warships:
- Gearing DD
- Belknap CG
- Truxtun CGN
- Albany CG
- Long Beach CGN
- Virginia CGN
and airplanes:
- A-4A Skyhawk
- F-8 Crusader

Did you notice them?
Not all of them. They are okay but some of the new playable American subs just look horrible and haven't been updated for a long long time. In mind, the Ohio and Virginia classes. All of the Russian subs look awesome in comparison.
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Yes, but to claim it is due to political reasons without being able to prove it isn't helping anyone. Is it?

I really gotta learn 3d modeling. A good friend and expert in the field offered me to teach me, but so far I always found a way to postpone it.

"if you want things done..."
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Yes, but to claim it is due to political reasons without being able to prove it isn't helping anyone. Is it?

I really gotta learn 3d modeling. A good friend and expert in the field offered me to teach me, but so far I always found a way to postpone it.

"if you want things done..."
I don't intend to help anyone. Was merely expressing an opinion. This is not a court where evidence is a prerequisite to presenting a statement.

Opinion is a valid expression of one's thought.

As other nations' playables don't suffer poor 3-D models I thought it being a political sentiment.

I find you somewhat repulsive. Welcome to my ignore list.
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Not to burst your bubble guys, but getting entire new 3d models to DW is totally dependant on having access to 3dsMax 3.01, which is very very early version of Max and not really available around anymore.

I believe RA Team has it and this is why they and they only can pick and choose what units to upgrade and which not (or not yet...).

To rest of us only improving and upgrading textures to their j3d models is the only way and path to make this improvement process happening. That and transfer of other j3d models like Fleet Command or Sub Command . However, my personal opinion is that those models are not too advanced or good looking.

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Old 02-03-17, 09:05 AM   #9
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To be fair, the Russian subs looked terrible in the stock game. I think it's warranted that they got more attention in RA.
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Many 3D models was created by Jaf and Kpv 1974 from RedRodgers forum.
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I think they have actual plugins, good aplication and experience. Peoples on RedRodgers forum are very helpfull if you have something more than "next briliant idea". For example last patch have new gfx for TA stations from my friend (polish community).

They still working on new models:
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Expected new excellent model aircrafts from -Jaf-.
Next thing: do you have priority list of object for improving textures?
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do you have priority list of object for improving textures?
Originally I thought about surface units only, but after latest exchange here I might take a shot on Ohio and Virginia.
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