2016 US Presidential election thread - Page 235

Platapus · 11-01-16, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

After again been reading a post where someone was angry about the Voting machine had changed this person vote

I started to wonder-do these voting machine only change it from Trump to Clinton or does it also change to voting the other way around ?

Markus

The touch machines that are not calibrated will sometimes select the next option either above or below where the voter's finger is touching. It is the same problem that often happens with ATMs and automated gas pumps.

Still no excuse for calibration not to be checked. But that's why before confirming the ballot, it is important for the voter to check the summary display before hitting the confirmation button.

Just one more reason I am glad we dumped the touch screen machines. Never liked them.

Bilge_Rat · 11-01-16, 04:08 PM

so.....I'm sure everyone has seen the latest conspiracy theory, that the Trump campaign has been secretly communicating with the Russian Alfa Bank, apparently a secret back channel between Putin and his "mole" Donald Trump.

Some actual real journalists have looked into it and found IT'S TRUE.

Trump's servers are sending info to Alfa Bank...

here it is.....

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/01/...-email-server/

when will this election be over...

em2nought · 11-01-16, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

After again been reading a post where someone was angry about the Voting machine had changed this person vote

I started to wonder-do these voting machine only change it from Trump to Clinton or does it also change to voting the other way around ?

Markus

I guess we won't know until an actual living person votes for Hillary on purpose.

Buddahaid · 11-01-16, 07:51 PM

I might but I'll choke on it. I just can't bring myself to vote for such a horses a$$ as Trump. All hat and no cattle.

August · 11-01-16, 08:12 PM

You can always vote for the Pot Head like i'm doing.

Oberon · 11-01-16, 08:42 PM

I'm with August on this one, if you can't stand to vote for Trump or Hillary, rather than vote against either one, vote for a third party, Johnson, Stein, or even McMullin if you're able to, I hear that he's an up and coming figure...could be going places. The two party system could do with being broken up a bit.

AVGWarhawk · 11-02-16, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by August

You can always vote for the Pot Head like i'm doing.

The exact reason I would not vote for this guy. Spend my time advising my kids not to do drugs but vote for a person who grows it.

AVGWarhawk · 11-02-16, 09:05 AM

I voted last night. Long line. Hour wait. Paper ballot that once completed was fed into a machine. For all I know it ended up in a shredder. I was given a, "I Voted" sticker. Shuffled out of the door.

Concerning the no ID required. I don't like it at all. Anyone can state my name and address to the voting official. I stated my name and address. A paper was spit out of the computer and I was to confirm my information as correct and told to sign. Then off to the ballots. It is very much possible for someone to take your vote. Now, the data base I assume(and hope) is taken from REGISTERED voters. If the data base is simply from a name associated with an address then non-citizens can vote.

I have not used a paper ballot in some time. Felt like the SAT where one fills in the dot with a #2 pencil. However, this ballot a pen used so it can not be erased.

August · 11-02-16, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The exact reason I would not vote for this guy. Spend my time advising my kids not to do drugs but vote for a person who grows it.

So I'm guessing you'd never vote for a guy who drank alcohol or smoked tobacco either right? I mean of the three the illegal (for now) one is the least harmful.

AVGWarhawk · 11-02-16, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by August

So I'm guessing you'd never vote for a guy who drank alcohol or smoked tobacco either right? I mean of the three the illegal (for now) one is the least harmful.

Alcohol and tobacco are not illegal. All three are harmful in their own way. "I tried it but did not inhale." Bill Clinton.

Skybird · 11-02-16, 01:43 PM

It seems that the pendulum indeed swings in Trumps favour again? If you consider the way this campaign has gone and what things and stories and factors got focussed on and projected influence, it all is indeed the best argument against holding general elections.

We have a comparable debate over here in Germany currently, on the usefulness of public referendums and whether they indeed get decided by views on and opinions about the issue the individual referendum is about.

Why not making Kermit the next POTUS? He is hilarious, but so are Clinton and Trump, but different to them, he is not intentionally malicious and foul-playing. A truly green president, an American precedence for the world. Who knows, maybe other countries will follow. Blue Ernie in Brussels. Red Hellboy in Moscow. Yellow Sponge Bob in Bejing. Green Kermit in Washington. Pink Panther in New York at the UN.

Much less absurd than the psychotic gang running the world right now.

Catfish · 11-02-16, 02:23 PM

^ @Skybird
Sometimes i think you read my mind

But then, since a lot of people are better educated and capable than our own political and other leaders.. why do we let them?!

Oberon · 11-02-16, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Yes, those horror clown masks and related incidents make for some really scary halloween this year. Stephen King is said to write a sequel to his bestselling novel about Pennywise, working title is "Them".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

It seems that the pendulum indeed swings in Trumps favour again? If you consider the way this campaign has gone and what things and stories and factors got focussed on and projected influence, it all is indeed the best argument against holding general elections.

We have a comparable debate over here in Germany currently, on the usefulness of public referendums and whether they indeed get decided by views on and opinions about the issue the individual referendum is about.

Why not making Kermit the next POTUS? He is hilarious, but so are Clinton and Trump, but different to them, he is not intentionally malicious and foul-playing. A truly green president, an American precedence for the world. Who knows, maybe other countries will follow. Blue Ernie in Brussels. Red Hellboy in Moscow. Yellow Sponge Bob in Bejing. Green Kermit in Washington. Pink Panther in New York at the UN.

Much less absurd than the psychotic gang running the world right now.

Danger Mouse for PM!

But I must admit, I always find myself coming back to a quote by Adlai Stevenson:

Catfish · 11-02-16, 03:10 PM

^ Stephen King – Hah!

But this is wrong:

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Originally Posted by Oberon

[...]

You can only become a president if being a relative to a former president, or if you have money. BIG money. The most intelligent Harvard absolvent, or the most intelligent man with or without official education, will never become president in the US, without money.
It is not about intelligence, good intentions or sheer capability.

Oberon · 11-02-16, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

^ Stephen King – Hah!

But this is wrong:

You can only become a president if being a relative to a former president, or if you have money. BIG money. The most intelligent Harvard absolvent, or the most intelligent man with or without official education, will never become president in the US, without money.
It is not about intelligence, good intentions or sheer capability.

Fair point...and to be honest, it's the same in every single government and political system really, isn't it? And has been through-out history.

11-01-16, 04:08 PM	#3512
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	so.....I'm sure everyone has seen the latest conspiracy theory, that the Trump campaign has been secretly communicating with the Russian Alfa Bank, apparently a secret back channel between Putin and his "mole" Donald Trump. Some actual real journalists have looked into it and found IT'S TRUE. Trump's servers are sending info to Alfa Bank... here it is..... https://theintercept.com/2016/11/01/...-email-server/ when will this election be over... __________________

11-01-16, 07:51 PM	#3514
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,577 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	I might but I'll choke on it. I just can't bring myself to vote for such a horses a$$ as Trump. All hat and no cattle. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

11-01-16, 08:12 PM	#3515
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 22,734 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You can always vote for the Pot Head like i'm doing. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

11-02-16, 09:05 AM	#3518
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I voted last night. Long line. Hour wait. Paper ballot that once completed was fed into a machine. For all I know it ended up in a shredder. I was given a, "I Voted" sticker. Shuffled out of the door. Concerning the no ID required. I don't like it at all. Anyone can state my name and address to the voting official. I stated my name and address. A paper was spit out of the computer and I was to confirm my information as correct and told to sign. Then off to the ballots. It is very much possible for someone to take your vote. Now, the data base I assume(and hope) is taken from REGISTERED voters. If the data base is simply from a name associated with an address then non-citizens can vote. I have not used a paper ballot in some time. Felt like the SAT where one fills in the dot with a #2 pencil. However, this ballot a pen used so it can not be erased. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-02-16, 01:43 PM	#3521
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,709 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	It seems that the pendulum indeed swings in Trumps favour again? If you consider the way this campaign has gone and what things and stories and factors got focussed on and projected influence, it all is indeed the best argument against holding general elections. We have a comparable debate over here in Germany currently, on the usefulness of public referendums and whether they indeed get decided by views on and opinions about the issue the individual referendum is about. Why not making Kermit the next POTUS? He is hilarious, but so are Clinton and Trump, but different to them, he is not intentionally malicious and foul-playing. A truly green president, an American precedence for the world. Who knows, maybe other countries will follow. Blue Ernie in Brussels. Red Hellboy in Moscow. Yellow Sponge Bob in Bejing. Green Kermit in Washington. Pink Panther in New York at the UN. Much less absurd than the psychotic gang running the world right now. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-01-16, 08:42 PM	#3516
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I'm with August on this one, if you can't stand to vote for Trump or Hillary, rather than vote against either one, vote for a third party, Johnson, Stein, or even McMullin if you're able to, I hear that he's an up and coming figure...could be going places. The two party system could do with being broken up a bit.

11-02-16, 02:23 PM	#3522
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,923 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ @Skybird Sometimes i think you read my mind But then, since a lot of people are better educated and capable than our own political and other leaders.. why do we let them?! __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.