State Police Officer Dies in Pennsylvania Ambush

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Mass media clamors to put bad news on the wire. It's in their nature.

Considering the rise of the police state and some of the underhanded things they've been doing to otherwise innocent folk, I'm surprised it isn't happening more often.

Law enforcement views itself as an army fighting a war against everything criminal.

http://www.policemag.com/channel/pat...or-patrol.aspx

The only problem with this mindset is that all too often innocent people get caught in the crossfire and suddenly the police become judge and jury and will make your life a living hell, leaving you with little recourse or remedy short of a huge attorney bill.
How to lose a large sum of money through police interdiction...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/inv...-targets-cash/

There have been numerous law abiding citizens who found themselves on the receiving end of an interdiction traffic stop and had their money seized, even when no contraband is found.

If you're going on a family vacation, don't carry cash.
If you're moving to another state, don't carry cash.
If you're headed somewhere to buy supplies for your restaurant, don't carry cash.

That's three examples of people who were interdicted by law enforcement and were perceived to be in the drug trade and had a large sum of money stolen from them by a police officer, thanks to their usage of increased powers from the Patriot Act. The seized cash gets sent to a Federal interagency sharing program where it gets divvied up and passed around.
I call it legalized highway robbery because maybe one in a hundred traffic stops are found to be actually hauling contraband. The other ninety-nine are just ordinary folk who don't trust banks or can't have a bank account for whatever reason. But, it's enough to arouse suspicion and levy an accusation.

Like I said, I'm surprised it isn't happening more often.

This is disturbing stuff because it's so hard to transfer money fast from bank to bank now, sometimes we just withdrawl the cash and deposit it again. I've been riding around with $10,000 cash on me before. I've paid for cashier's checks only to have them held for a few days. What's the point of a fracking cashier's check then? Burn it all down man, I'm not a criminal - our gov't is.

[Jeff-Groves]

Looks like I wasn't far off on my thoughts don't it?

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Mass media clamors to put bad news on the wire. It's in their nature.

They just give us what we want after all.
It is easy to blame the press for things like this. Then again, there are shows like "Cops" where we just wait for them to riddle that damn "crack-blackguy" with lots of bullets.

Or when they show car chases on the news?
Aren't we all waiting for the big dramatic crash and, hopefully, some fatalities? It's so exciting after all!

Or what about recorded "live!" suicides?

We love that. We want that.
They are just answering the call.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

They just give us what we want after all.
fatalities? It's so exciting after all! We love that. We want that.
They are just answering the call.

"Ave, Imperator, morituri te salutant" NOTHIN GOOD?($$$) GOES OUTTA STYLE BBY!vs Literally!

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

"Ave, Imperator, morituri te salutant"

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

They just give us what we want after all.
It is easy to blame the press for things like this. Then again, there are shows like "Cops" where we just wait for them to riddle that damn "crack-blackguy" with lots of bullets.

I'm not.

Or when they show car chases on the news?
Aren't we all waiting for the big dramatic crash and, hopefully, some fatalities? It's so exciting after all!

I'm not.

Or what about recorded "live!" suicides?

We love that. We want that.
They are just answering the call.

Maybe you do. I certainly don't.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

<snip>

Steve, look at my post again, and notice that I put we in italic.
I thought the purpose of this was clear.

[Wolferz]

Though, as usual, nothing in the article states how they came to that conclusion.
All they say is that the named suspect is a survivalist who wants to kill cops and commit mass murder. Again, no info on how they came to that conclusion.

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/po...ht-mass-murder

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Steve, look at my post again, and notice that I put we in italic.
I thought the purpose of this was clear.

I understood that it's a general reference to the habits of the whole. I happen to disagree, and use myself as an example. I have watched dozens of airshows, hundreds of auto races. I have never once had the desire to see something bad happen. I find it hard to believe that everyone else watches only out of the hope to witness a catastrophe.

That's just my opinion on the subject.

[August]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Though, as usual, nothing in the article states how they came to that conclusion.
All they say is that the named suspect is a survivalist who wants to kill cops and commit mass murder. Again, no info on how they came to that conclusion.

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/po...ht-mass-murder

Actually they did. From the linked article:

Authorities were led to Frein after a resident who was walking his dog in a wooded area two miles from the barracks spotted a vehicle slightly submerged in a pond and called 911. In the vehicle, police found shell casings that matched those found at the shooting scene, Noonan said.

[Jeff-Groves]

So we find an idiot that claims to be something he is not.
He's a bad shot, can't plan, can't sink a car, and leaves stuff behind.
Bet he'll regret that kind of dumb stuff once Bubba winks at him.
Here's a clue Dude. Watch TV shows!

[Stealhead]

You do not have to be the best shooter to be deadly with a firearm. I read somewhere that majority of fatal shootings occur within 8 feet. I also fail to see what your claimed skills have to do this story.

[Wolferz]

I stand corrected on my previous assertion regarding the article.

Still, I can't believe that this suspect was dumb enough to leave evidence behind that would identify him. Unless that evidence was manufactured. So far it's been circumstantial and hearsay and the staties have already charged the guy with murder and a laundry list of other charges before even having him in custody. Did he call them and confess over the phone?
But, what does it matter? If they do find him, he'll not go down without a fight and will die in the process. Justice will be served. The gene pool cleaned of another turd and all will be right with the world.

[Platapus]

I would opine that most convictions occur because the criminal did something dumb, evidence wise.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

You do not have to be the best shooter to be deadly with a firearm. I read somewhere that majority of fatal shootings occur within 8 feet. I also fail to see what your claimed skills have to do this story.

Thanks for reminding me why I left in the first place.
"I read somewhere"
Pretty much explains your point of view. I mean if you read it on the 'Net?
It must be true.

Should I prove my shooting skills to you? Nope. Don't think I'll bother.
You'd only claim the targets were rigged and I have people all over the U.S.A. that send AG's to me to work on.
Of course that's only me saying it's true and you'll find issues with that.
Have a nice day.