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MH · 10-07-12, 03:34 PM

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10-07-12, 03:38 PM

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Mario is a global jewish conpiracy

Oberon · 10-07-12, 03:46 PM

Well, I cannot credit myself too highly, since it was through wikipedia via an article on Vichy France that I came across Maurras.
I have to agree with Joea here, there is a lot of hate from both sides of the religious divide in defense of and against the Jewish people.
Personally I have no problem with them, I don't see some sort of giant conspiracy like Alex does, no more than I see a giant Muslim conspiracy like Skybird does.

Alex · 10-07-12, 03:58 PM

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What are you talking about? Do you even know anymore? My point is, and has always been, that your views and remarks are based in a strong personal anti-semitism.

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But that's enough talking from myself for now. I'll just end this post saying I'm no antisemite. But I am strongly against some people fighting for their own interests all the time, not caring about any local people worldwide, while spreading rumors related to a constant supposed planned eradication of members of a certain religion, therefore getting themselves on the cover of most magazines all the time, in order for every gentile to support their cause.
And let me say once again that you don't have to believe everything I say just like that : just check this out for yourself in your own medias instead !

Erm.

MH · 10-07-12, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

But that's enough talking from myself for now. I'll just end this post saying I'm no antisemite. But I am strongly against some people fighting for their own interests all the time, not caring about any local people worldwide, while spreading rumors related to a constant supposed planned eradication of members of a certain religion, therefore getting themselves on the cover of most magazines all the time, in order for every gentile to support their cause.
And let me say once again that you don't have to believe everything I say just like that : just check this out for yourself in your own medias instead !

So what is that all about?

Takeda Shingen · 10-07-12, 04:09 PM

Again, that's nice, but it doesn't reconcile with your 'Zionist' remarks Alex.

TLAM Strike · 10-07-12, 04:13 PM

^I didn't see this till Alex quoted him self.

It's Media not "Medias". Medias is not a word.

Medias is what is known as a double plural, since media is the plural of Medium.

One should never, under any circumstances add the suffix -s to media.

CCIP · 10-07-12, 04:17 PM

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Personally I have no problem with them, I don't see some sort of giant conspiracy like Alex does, no more than I see a giant Muslim conspiracy like Skybird does.

Yup, I think that's the issue. I have a lot of trouble with one-sided, "us vs. them" views of the whole situation, and I'm annoyed with the constant "you're either with the good guys or you're with the bad guys on this" that the propenents of these views seem to bombard me with. Please stop setting people into square boxes where there is an obviously complex, multi-dimensional issue. It is possible to be positive towards the Jewish peoples and support a state of Israel, while at the same time acknowledging problems that it poses some problems to regional peace and recognizing arguments from the other side as well. Support for Israel and the Israelis doesn't automatically make one a Zionist; support for Palestinian rights and urging for responsibility on Iran doesn't make one a terrorist-loving hippie either.

It's "us vs. them" thinking that got us into this mess in the first place. I like how people assume that it's going to magically fix it.

u crank · 10-07-12, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

It is possible to be positive towards the Jewish peoples and support a state of Israel, while at the same time acknowledging problems that it poses some problems to regional peace and recognizing arguments from the other side as well. Support for Israel and the Israelis doesn't automatically make one a Zionist; support for Palestinian rights and urging for responsibility on Iran doesn't make one a terrorist-loving hippie either.

It's "us vs. them" thinking that got us into this mess in the first place. I like how people assume that it's going to magically fix it.

A healthy respect for other peoples views and their situation is the beginning of an understanding of those views. I respect your respect.

Alex · 10-07-12, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Again, that's nice, but it doesn't reconcile with your 'Zionist' remarks Alex.

What do you mean Sir ?
"Reconcile" ?
I'm indeed standing here as an anti-zionist guy !
Hope it's clear to you now.
Yep. Because I know who I can be friend with, personally. And that's got nothing to do with anti-semitism. But, well.

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^I didn't see this till Alex quoted him self.

Too bad. Other people will give more attention to my post, hopefully. For their own sake. And here's me saying once again that none has got to believe in what I said. I could be a great liar, and an evil antisemite, as Takeda Shingen and Tribesman mentioned. Everything I'm asking people for is to check out what the situation related to this matter looks like where they live. Period.

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

It's Media not "Medias". Medias is not a word.

Medias is what is known as a double plural, since media is the plural of Medium.

One should never, under any circumstances add the suffix -s to media.

So let me apologize for making fun of you tonight, TLAM : in my very humble opinion, you've got a too shallow understanding of what gets to happen in the Middle-East, but you definitely are a GOOD English teacher. And I thank you for your explanations related to your language. Honestly.
Your point is indeed true. Yet I'm familiar with Latin language, I never considered that word to be taken from it, and have got to add the suffix -s due to the fact that I just have never been caring about this word I considered to be a neologism.

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Yup, I think that's the issue. I have a lot of trouble with one-sided, "us vs. them" views of the whole situation, and I'm annoyed with the constant "you're either with the good guys or you're with the bad guys on this" that the propenents of these views seem to bombard me with.

I'm with you on that one. And that is definitely the reason why I've got to try to get a more neutral way of thinking through the reading of the Bible, Torah, and Coran (didn't read these books just for fun, man, if you only knew how annoying they all can be), and mediA from many countries.

Takeda Shingen · 10-07-12, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

What do you mean Sir ?
"Reconcile" ?
I'm indeed standing up here as an anti-zionist guy !
Hope it's clear to you now.
Yep. Because I know who I can be friend with, personally. And that's got nothing to do with anti-semitism. But, well.
Everything I'm asking people for is to check out what the situation related to this matter looks like where they live. Period.

Okay, so you're not an anti-semite; you're just trying to save the American people from the global Zionist conspiracy. Yeah, thanks for clearing that up.

Oberon · 10-07-12, 05:52 PM

I do find it difficult to understand how you can claim to be anti-zionist (a form of Jewish nationalism) in one breath, and praise a French and American nationalist in another whilst at the same time claiming not to be anti-Semitic.

Alex · 10-07-12, 06:24 PM

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Okay, so you're not an anti-semite; you're just trying to save the American people from the global Zionist conspiracy. Yeah, thanks for clearing that up.

In fact ?
I admit it sounds very arrogant from me.
But it is really the only intention I had in mind.

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I do find it difficult to understand how you can claim to be anti-zionist (a form of Jewish nationalism) in one breath, and praise a French and American nationalist in another whilst at the same time claiming not to be anti-Semitic.

You know what ?
I even have got to read Mein Kampf, some biography of Mao Zedong, as well as a guide related to music theory and a part of the Kama Sutra. Do you think I am an anti-semitic communist violinist-pornstar ?

Oberon · 10-07-12, 06:44 PM

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I even have got to read Mein Kampf, some biography of Mao Zedong, as well as a guide related to music theory and a part of the Kama Sutra. Do you think I am an anti-semitic communist violonist-pornstar ?

Well, then where do you stand?

Are you anti-nationalism in general? (which includes the works of Mauras and Ford) or just anti-zionist? If so, why are you just anti-zionist? Why not all forms of nationalism?

Alex · 10-07-12, 07:01 PM

I'm not supposed to reply your questions, Ob'.
Nor are you supposed to know what's the brand of the underpants I've slipped on today in the morning.
If you want to know more about the different ways of thinking you can choose, just do what I do : educate yourself through books.

But you indeed can consider myself a proud anti-zionist, yes.

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TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	^I didn't see this till Alex quoted him self. It's Media not "Medias". Medias is not a word. Medias is what is known as a double plural, since media is the plural of Medium. One should never, under any circumstances add the suffix -s to media. __________________

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Alex Dominant Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,143 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	I'm not supposed to reply your questions, Ob'. Nor are you supposed to know what's the brand of the underpants I've slipped on today in the morning. If you want to know more about the different ways of thinking you can choose, just do what I do : educate yourself through books. But you indeed can consider myself a proud anti-zionist, yes. __________________

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MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	wow..lol

10-07-12, 03:46 PM	#48
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Well, I cannot credit myself too highly, since it was through wikipedia via an article on Vichy France that I came across Maurras. I have to agree with Joea here, there is a lot of hate from both sides of the religious divide in defense of and against the Jewish people. Personally I have no problem with them, I don't see some sort of giant conspiracy like Alex does, no more than I see a giant Muslim conspiracy like Skybird does.

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Again, that's nice, but it doesn't reconcile with your 'Zionist' remarks Alex.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I do find it difficult to understand how you can claim to be anti-zionist (a form of Jewish nationalism) in one breath, and praise a French and American nationalist in another whilst at the same time claiming not to be anti-Semitic.