WOLF PACKS in SH5

[JScones]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Its a no brainer innit, (for me at least)
Not to be negative - but if enough folks vote the 'i dont care' option this poll could potententially do more harm than good.

Only to those that voted "Absolute must"...remember, we all have our own opinion and forcing yours on to others isn't very social.

FWIW I voted "50/50". And I fail to see the harm to my game if I don't get them. Indeed, I will see MUCH harm though if I get them poorly implemented, half implemented, inaccurately implemented or so on...

[karamazovnew]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

More radio interaction from BDU on convoy contacts would be fantastic.
That would be suffuciant enough for me to simulate a wolfpack. Perhaps the sound of depth charges in the distance, but anything beyond that would merely be a sideshow.

Exactly. Maybe that's where the problem lies: BdU. In SH3 we really felt alone. Because of that, the enemy felt like the alien ships in Alien Invader, generic. And our actions seemed useless not because we didn't change the course of the war, but because there was nothing in the game to care about our victories. From everything I've read, wolfpacks=radio+bdu. Since both radio and bdu were missing in SH3, no wonder we're crying for wolfpacks .

Modelling the entire strata of BdU operations might be a bit more proc intensive, but considering that they only used information from radio messages from planes, ships and boats (all implemented) it shouldn't be a problem to implement a good (deffinitly better than nothing) BdU.

But I still feel that some think that real wolpacks were like the X-Wing formations attacking the Death Star, the panzer formations, or like the teams in multiplayer SH3.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by The General

Hahaha! I love stirring the pot!!!!

LOL, Once again General - i was out of line, for which I apologise

Originally Posted by JScones

Only to those that voted "Absolute must"...remember, we all have our own opinion and forcing yours on to others isn't very social.

FWIW I voted "50/50". And I fail to see the harm to my game if I don't get them. Indeed, I will see MUCH harm though if I get them poorly implemented, half implemented, inaccurately implemented or so on...

Your quite right JS, i get toooo fanatical/protective/carried away over the subject of Wolfpacks. i do need to chill.

[JScones]

There is nothing wrong with being passionate though, JU.

@JSCONES

I'm not sure why people who voted "An Absolute Must" are "forcing their oppinions on others".....I thought they were just expressing their oppinion, as is the purpose of a Poll if i'm not mistaken.

@ALL

The goal of this poll is to gauge how much you, as a community, want Wolf Packs. Let the votes speak for themselves.

[The General]

It's ok JU_88, I love the Silent Hunter series too and know nothing about programming or wether or not Wolfpacks will be included (I hope so). During these lulls betweeen releases I just like to muck about. Neal told me off during The Great Post-Sh3/Pre-SH4 Lull of '07 when I was upset Kpt. Lehmann.

Have you played IL-2 Stormovik on the PS3? It's superb!

[U2222]

Does anybody have a feel for how they would like to interact with these wolfpacks?
Similar to multiplayer?
Limited to radio orders from Bdu?
Or something else

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by U2222

Does anybody have a feel for how they would like to interact with these wolfpacks?
Similar to multiplayer?
Limited to radio orders from Bdu?
Or something else

Just like real life...orders from BdU to shadow a convoy until other u-boats are in position, then orders to attack.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

@JSCONES]
I'm not sure why people who voted "An Absolute Must" are "forcing their oppinions on others".....I thought they were just expressing their oppinion, as is the purpose of a Poll if i'm not mistaken.

@ Gruber: I am the guilty one I think Scones was refering to my post Lol, (see where he quoted me)

Ooops.... Sorry

[Scharnhorst1943]

Originally Posted by The General

A.I. Wolfpacks would make an unacceptable drain on the computer's resources and drastically impact frame-rates. Sorry, but that's a fact.

My verdict is that Wolfpacks should only be available in Multi-player.

There are ways around that, like what the old AOTD did.

It is possible to have U-Boats spawn near the convoy and attack if you shadow it for X hours. The longer you shadow, the more U-Boats spawn to attack the convoy ... (Up to a limit of course)

You could also have is set up so that if you get a set distance away from the spawned U-Boat it dissapears ...

It is possible to do without necessarily stopping frame rates

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Just like real life...orders from BdU to shadow a convoy until other u-boats are in position, then orders to attack.

I like that Mookie.

As JsCones posted... If poorly implemented. At least they might be modded then at least. Something for our modders to work with.

I don't understand all the Hoopla.

[Annatar]

I mentioned it in an earlier thread, but if it doesn't have Wolfpacks it's not a buy for me.

Maybe, maybe I'd pick it up a year down the line once the modders have had a chance to get to grips with it, but I won't pay full price on day one for a retread of SH3 and 4 with some glitter on top. Make some real advances in the simulation or stop wasting everybody's time.

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by Annatar

I mentioned it in an earlier thread, but if it doesn't have Wolfpacks it's not a buy for me.

Maybe, maybe I'd pick it up a year down the line once the modders have had a chance to get to grips with it, but I won't pay full price on day one for a retread of SH3 and 4 with some glitter on top. Make some real advances in the simulation or stop wasting everybody's time.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Annatar

I mentioned it in an earlier thread, but if it doesn't have Wolfpacks it's not a buy for me.

Maybe, maybe I'd pick it up a year down the line once the modders have had a chance to get to grips with it, but I won't pay full price on day one for a retread of SH3 and 4 with some glitter on top. Make some real advances in the simulation or stop wasting everybody's time.