[REL] OLC 'Gold' MkIId - Page 33

tomfon · 09-02-09, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosje

no bearing ring around the boat at the navmap where you can draw a plot, is that correct?

Yes it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosje

I have option 2 (with LRT) and fatigue turned off atm. no effeciency bars are shown in the crew management and my torpedo load time is 12 minutes with a full forward torp compartment with all the qualified guys. is that about right? or will it be better once we get some medals and stuff?

You can't see the efficiency bars because you have enabled one of the two options which includes LRT. LRT makes the efficiency bars disappear.

12 min is almost excellent. Later on, as the petty officers qualified as torpedomen will gradually begin to gain experience you'll notice that they will be able to load all four tubes within 28-30min all by themselves. Promotions will help too.

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Originally Posted by Bosje

lastly for now, I can't get my head around this one: small merchant (edit) in the scope. count the vertical bars, drag that value to 90, look at 19,5 (mast height) on the outer ring, tool says range 1500 which checks out nicely. Now, click and hold at 19,5 and drag to 78,5 (length) and count horizontal bars which in this case was 22. look at 22 on the inner ring.... and the 22 mark is just left of the 90 mark on the AOB finder...

try again and again and again and again and each time it gives me a reading outside the tool (-> to the left of the 90 mark)
I hope i was clear in my description of the problem and I wonder how stupid I must sound right now... but please explain that one to me

Errr...

Try to sink the coastal merchant in the training mission "Torpedoes". Range is about 800m and AoB 33-36deg, approximately. In case you feel something is going wrong, report back. Now excuse me, i have to go.

Bosje · 09-02-09, 11:47 AM

i'll keep at this for a while and see if i can figure out how i screwed up the aob finder
the previous questions were because I usually get a reload time of just under 8 mins from just a half-filled compartment. ah well, i'll train em up a bit

thanks for helping, slowly getting to grips with this mod

tomfon · 09-03-09, 05:38 AM

So, how did you do Bosje? Did you try to sink that coastal merchant? Did you verify the figures i posted above? Don't forget to watch the tutorials too. They're most helpful.

Bosje · 09-03-09, 07:19 AM

yeah i already watched the tutorials and I spent several hours hunting, both in the academy missions and in the august '39 career start 7th flot. with the drones in the konigsberg bay

i'm hitting my targets no problems and i'm getting to grips with plotting-without-map updates etc, but the problem I tried to describe still exists:

after I used the attackdisk (which I use to give me true bearing, for plotting purposes), I get incorrect values for the AOB on the AOB finder.
so, with the academy torpedo mission, everything checks out for speed, range aob and everything. Then I use the attackdisc to determine true bearing and true heading for the small tanker, and after that the AOB finder gives reading to the left of the 90 mark

I probably screw something up, possibly a stupid mental math thing at which I suck, but I just don't get why it gives a reading outside the 'zone'
I'll update when I figure something out.

Another thing: I added TMT without reading its whole thread carefully. does it change the damage model or sinking mechanics or something? out of 20plus ships I torpedoed yesterday, only 3 sunk from one torpedo. even the coastal tramps in the training mission don't go down from one hit (or should I wait 24 hours before shooting again?)
It's simply not what I used to see in 'pure' GWX but of course it could simply be bad luck

I feel like a noob all over again, it's a lot of fun learning to become an ace with historical tools!

and thanks

edit: I'm sure I tried to read off some wrong dials or something, most solutions come out correctly with a little more experience

Bosje · 09-03-09, 09:01 AM

owwww

holding the ring at the mastheight value and dragging it to the shiplength value, which sets up the ring to take an AOB measurement... that process most be 'reset' every time you do it by first resetting the target range!

so I was trying to get the AOB at a range of 1000 m while the AOB finder was still set up for 1500 m

it had nothing to do with touching the attackdisc or anything, obviously.
sorted, I think

*wanders off to the idiot's corner and sits on a stool wearing a silly hat*

Bosje · 09-03-09, 08:11 PM

I'm there, missed a ship by 2 meters at 3100 meters, good enough

6 ships sunk for 31000 tons in a VIIB oct. '39.
half of those without watch officer help ('report nearest visual contact')

thanks for the help and damn, why did I not install this sooner?
whole new side to GWX gold

ps I saw a screenshot where someone had TMT installed -BEFORE- OLC GUI but I figured it was after, does that matter?

Pisces · 09-04-09, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosje

owwww

holding the ring at the mastheight value and dragging it to the shiplength value, which sets up the ring to take an AOB measurement... that process most be 'reset' every time you do it by first resetting the target range!

so I was trying to get the AOB at a range of 1000 m while the AOB finder was still set up for 1500 m

it had nothing to do with touching the attackdisc or anything, obviously.
sorted, I think

*wanders off to the idiot's corner and sits on a stool wearing a silly hat*

Yes, that makes sense. Your initial post didn't make it clear enough (to me anyway) this happend at subsequent measurements. Your procedure seemed correct at first sight. The horizontal size you measure in the scope is also dependent on distance. (or else it would look very stretched-out when it is right in front of you) So you need to do the range thing again if a significant time has past since your last AOB measurement. "significant" depending on the closure rate of the target to you. The higher the rate the more quickly the last range-setting becomes old.

p.s. No need to sit in te idiots corner... you just got smarter!

DeadlyWolf · 09-04-09, 09:09 AM

I just switched from a "GWX+TMT2" campaign to a new one, containing "GWX+OLC2(opt4)+TMT2+SH3 commander". I followed all the instructions in all of them, and noticing some differences from the previous pack I was wondering if there's some problem or not.

1) I have no more "green lines" on the compartments rooms.
2) All the screens (f3, f5, f6, f7, etc..the 2d components) seem way darker than before. Too dark for my taste. It's like if the gamma value was being halved.

Is it normal? (I also had the sun issue, but the relative mod resolved it

)

h.sie · 09-04-09, 09:29 AM

the missing green lines come from LRT

DeadlyWolf · 09-04-09, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

the missing green lines come from LRT

I tried:

1) To enable opt 3 in place of opt 4: loading in mid patrol made the "career" end. I then made another career and no green lines.
2) Opt1 and enabling edm from gwx. Before that I also rolled back sh3 commander. I made another career and still no green lines.

The screens remains dark. (I'll do a screenshot after working out the 1st issue)

karamazovnew · 09-04-09, 11:36 AM

h.sie, how was that night at Langtrees Brothel? I'm still recovering from the one in Bangok

.

DeadlyWolf, the missing green lines are not a bug, they are a feature. I suggest using the "no fatigue" option in SH3 Commander anyway. The dark screens are made by the files in the Data\Menu\Dark folder. There are quite a lot in there, but the ones responsible for most screens are Console.tga and ConsoleInverted.tga. Open them in Photoshop or Gimp and fill the alpha channels with black. That will make all the dark layers invisible and the screen brighter overall

Pisces · 09-04-09, 12:09 PM

Those dark screens are intentional. That way you can actually see stuff when it is night in the game. The normal bright interface graphics ruin your eye sensitivity. Infact, the AOB-finder still hurts my eyes.

karamazovnew · 09-04-09, 12:12 PM

True, but we don't know how his monitor behaves at certain colors. They might be too dark for him.

h.sie · 09-04-09, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

h.sie, how was that night at Langtrees Brothel? I'm still recovering from the one in Bangok

i'm no native english speaker. if that was humour or similar, i did not understand it. what is Langtrees Brothel?

ReallyDedPoet · 09-04-09, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

i'm no native english speaker. if that was humour or similar, i did not understand it. what is Langtrees Brothel?

Just SUBSIM having some fun with the Avatars here:

Rough Night at Langstress Brothel

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09-02-09, 11:47 AM	#482
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	i'll keep at this for a while and see if i can figure out how i screwed up the aob finder the previous questions were because I usually get a reload time of just under 8 mins from just a half-filled compartment. ah well, i'll train em up a bit thanks for helping, slowly getting to grips with this mod __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

09-03-09, 05:38 AM	#483
tomfon Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CK7662 Posts: 918 Downloads: 178 Uploads: 4	So, how did you do Bosje? Did you try to sink that coastal merchant? Did you verify the figures i posted above? Don't forget to watch the tutorials too. They're most helpful. __________________ "I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers which can't be questioned." - Richard P. Feynman [1918/1988] "I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan "You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays... There's no basketball anymore, there's no beauty in it. It's pretty boring. But it is what it is and you need to work with it." - Greg Popovich Mods for SH3

09-03-09, 07:19 AM	#484
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	yeah i already watched the tutorials and I spent several hours hunting, both in the academy missions and in the august '39 career start 7th flot. with the drones in the konigsberg bay i'm hitting my targets no problems and i'm getting to grips with plotting-without-map updates etc, but the problem I tried to describe still exists: after I used the attackdisk (which I use to give me true bearing, for plotting purposes), I get incorrect values for the AOB on the AOB finder. so, with the academy torpedo mission, everything checks out for speed, range aob and everything. Then I use the attackdisc to determine true bearing and true heading for the small tanker, and after that the AOB finder gives reading to the left of the 90 mark I probably screw something up, possibly a stupid mental math thing at which I suck, but I just don't get why it gives a reading outside the 'zone' I'll update when I figure something out. Another thing: I added TMT without reading its whole thread carefully. does it change the damage model or sinking mechanics or something? out of 20plus ships I torpedoed yesterday, only 3 sunk from one torpedo. even the coastal tramps in the training mission don't go down from one hit (or should I wait 24 hours before shooting again?) It's simply not what I used to see in 'pure' GWX but of course it could simply be bad luck I feel like a noob all over again, it's a lot of fun learning to become an ace with historical tools! and thanks edit: I'm sure I tried to read off some wrong dials or something, most solutions come out correctly with a little more experience __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen! Last edited by Bosje; 09-03-09 at 07:39 AM.

09-03-09, 09:01 AM	#485
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	owwww holding the ring at the mastheight value and dragging it to the shiplength value, which sets up the ring to take an AOB measurement... that process most be 'reset' every time you do it by first resetting the target range! so I was trying to get the AOB at a range of 1000 m while the AOB finder was still set up for 1500 m it had nothing to do with touching the attackdisc or anything, obviously. sorted, I think wanders off to the idiot's corner and sits on a stool wearing a silly hat __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

09-03-09, 08:11 PM	#486
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	I'm there, missed a ship by 2 meters at 3100 meters, good enough 6 ships sunk for 31000 tons in a VIIB oct. '39. half of those without watch officer help ('report nearest visual contact') thanks for the help and damn, why did I not install this sooner? whole new side to GWX gold ps I saw a screenshot where someone had TMT installed -BEFORE- OLC GUI but I figured it was after, does that matter? __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

09-04-09, 09:09 AM	#488
DeadlyWolf Sailor man Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 44 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I just switched from a "GWX+TMT2" campaign to a new one, containing "GWX+OLC2(opt4)+TMT2+SH3 commander". I followed all the instructions in all of them, and noticing some differences from the previous pack I was wondering if there's some problem or not. 1) I have no more "green lines" on the compartments rooms. 2) All the screens (f3, f5, f6, f7, etc..the 2d components) seem way darker than before. Too dark for my taste. It's like if the gamma value was being halved. Is it normal? (I also had the sun issue, but the relative mod resolved it)

09-04-09, 09:29 AM	#489
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	the missing green lines come from LRT __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

09-04-09, 11:36 AM	#491
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	h.sie, how was that night at Langtrees Brothel? I'm still recovering from the one in Bangok . DeadlyWolf, the missing green lines are not a bug, they are a feature. I suggest using the "no fatigue" option in SH3 Commander anyway. The dark screens are made by the files in the Data\Menu\Dark folder. There are quite a lot in there, but the ones responsible for most screens are Console.tga and ConsoleInverted.tga. Open them in Photoshop or Gimp and fill the alpha channels with black. That will make all the dark layers invisible and the screen brighter overall

09-04-09, 12:09 PM	#492
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Those dark screens are intentional. That way you can actually see stuff when it is night in the game. The normal bright interface graphics ruin your eye sensitivity. Infact, the AOB-finder still hurts my eyes. __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

09-04-09, 12:12 PM	#493
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	True, but we don't know how his monitor behaves at certain colors. They might be too dark for him.