Honestly, do icebergs sound remotely like merchant ships??

Platapus · 03-09-08, 06:54 PM

This was the question I was asking my sound man. Playing GX2 with commander. October 1944 in AF41.

Radar contact long range. Four ships in single line convoy.

Track to intercept

Get a visual on icebergs (cool! First time I have ever seen one in the game)

Dive the boat and soundman reports merchant moving slowly at bearing of Iceberg

hmmm crafty Brits using icebergs to shield merchants? Never heard that one before.

Make my approach waiting for the merchant to poke around the iceberg. Soundman has good hit on four merchants....all on bearings of four icebergs

Hmmm Bernard is in the after torpedo room where he can’t hurt stuff too much. I have a pretty good senior soundman. But four merchants on bearings of four icebergs?

Lemme take a listen. I go to the soundroom and listen in on the bearing my trusted soundman is calling out merchants......nothing. I check all four “merchant” sound bearings and nothing.

I gives my soundman one upside the head. "Do icebergs sound even remotely like merchants on hydrophones?"

The radar hit I can understand but hydrophones?

I am thinking of putting my soundman on one of them icebergs so he can learn the difference.

Sheesh, thought I had a four ship line up. Really need the tonnage.

Icebergs! My dyin arse. What next?

Torplexed · 03-09-08, 07:29 PM

Don't be fooled mate. You're tracking a task force consisting of the massive new British flat top Ice Royal and her escorts.

Platapus · 03-09-08, 07:56 PM

I knew it!!

GoldenRivet · 03-09-08, 08:22 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk

Platapus · 03-09-08, 08:43 PM

wow that is cool

Graf Paper · 03-09-08, 09:17 PM

Keep an eye on those seals and walruses, too!

Them sneaky Tommies wear rubber walrus costumes on those 'berg ships to fool an unwary kaleun!

Brag · 03-10-08, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Don't be fooled mate. You're tracking a task force consisting of the massive new British flat top Ice Royal and her escorts.

Torp. that's the Sacred Temple of Ice Royal

Mush Martin · 03-10-08, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

hmmm crafty Brits using icebergs to shield merchants? Never heard that one before.

No kidding among the many wonderful crackpot notions and plans
such as say the Bates eight barreled bottle thrower. There was indeed
a real scheme (not set into development) to make a massive floating
airbase of reinforced sea ice to float over the larger atlantic air gap at the
start of the war. Oooh I wish I could remember the name of this project
and this crackpot I am sure I have it in allied secret weapons from ballantines illustrated history.
(that other great product that bears the name.)
I shall have to have a look for it.

M

[edit] here you go
http://www.navynews.co.uk/articles/2...0002010301.asp

ReallyDedPoet · 03-10-08, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mush Martin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

hmmm crafty Brits using icebergs to shield merchants? Never heard that one before.

No kidding among the many wonderful crackpot notions and plans
such as say the Bates eight barreled bottle thrower. There was indeed
a real scheme (not set into development) to make a massive floating
airbase of reinforced sea ice to float over the larger atlantic air gap at the
start of the war. Oooh I wish I could remember the name of this project
and this crackpot I am sure I have it in allied secret weapons from ballantines illustrated history.
(that other great product that bears the name.)
I shall have to have a look for it.

M

[edit] here you go
http://www.navynews.co.uk/articles/2...0002010301.asp

If you have ever watched the Sea Hunters, they did an episode on this and actually dove the site where it was built.

Ship of Ice
- To protect Allied convoys during WWII, eccentric scientist Geoffrey Pyke proposed a manmade island of ice as a floating airbase. Now, in the atmosphere of the Canadian Rockies, the Sea Hunters dive into the mountain lake to find the ice island's prototype.http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=30946

An interesting episode to say the least.

RDP

Torplexed · 03-10-08, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brag

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Don't be fooled mate. You're tracking a task force consisting of the massive new British flat top Ice Royal and her escorts.

Torp. that's the Sacred Temple of Ice Royal

You're right! I believe the Inuit worship Balz and his sacred walrus skin tea cozy there.

Blacklight · 03-10-08, 11:27 PM

Actually, you were tracking four merchants who were traveling in a convoy.. up north... and after they ran into SEVERAL snow squalls.

Did you think to check under the ice for the screws ?

Steel_Tomb · 03-11-08, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk

damn you beat me to it, was about to say the same thing.

Platapus · 03-11-08, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacklight

Actually, you were tracking four merchants who were traveling in a convoy.. up north... and after they ran into SEVERAL snow squalls.

Did you think to check under the ice for the screws ?

Having seen movies of surface ships and subs operating in the North Atlantic I can imagine this could happen. Some of the episodes of Victory at Sea had images of these powered "icebergs"

brrrrrrr

Dowly · 03-11-08, 03:25 PM

Actually, I think it would be possible for an WWII era submarine to mistaken iceberg as an sinking ship. I've seen few documentaries and while the icebergs might look silent and just peacefully floating around, they make quite alot of noise. Mostly cracking sounds and whines. I did a quick search on youtube, only found this one clip:

Jimbuna · 03-11-08, 04:01 PM

The ice ship.....due in a future version of GWX......perhaps

03-09-08, 06:54 PM	#1
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Honestly, do icebergs sound remotely like merchant ships?? This was the question I was asking my sound man. Playing GX2 with commander. October 1944 in AF41. Radar contact long range. Four ships in single line convoy. Track to intercept Get a visual on icebergs (cool! First time I have ever seen one in the game) Dive the boat and soundman reports merchant moving slowly at bearing of Iceberg hmmm crafty Brits using icebergs to shield merchants? Never heard that one before. Make my approach waiting for the merchant to poke around the iceberg. Soundman has good hit on four merchants....all on bearings of four icebergs Hmmm Bernard is in the after torpedo room where he can’t hurt stuff too much. I have a pretty good senior soundman. But four merchants on bearings of four icebergs? Lemme take a listen. I go to the soundroom and listen in on the bearing my trusted soundman is calling out merchants......nothing. I check all four “merchant” sound bearings and nothing. I gives my soundman one upside the head. "Do icebergs sound even remotely like merchants on hydrophones?" The radar hit I can understand but hydrophones? I am thinking of putting my soundman on one of them icebergs so he can learn the difference. Sheesh, thought I had a four ship line up. Really need the tonnage. Icebergs! My dyin arse. What next? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-09-08, 07:56 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I knew it!! __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk __________________

03-09-08, 08:43 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	wow that is cool __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	Keep an eye on those seals and walruses, too! Them sneaky Tommies wear rubber walrus costumes on those 'berg ships to fool an unwary kaleun! __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

03-09-08, 07:29 PM	#2
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Don't be fooled mate. You're tracking a task force consisting of the massive new British flat top Ice Royal and her escorts.

03-10-08, 11:27 PM	#11
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	Actually, you were tracking four merchants who were traveling in a convoy.. up north... and after they ran into SEVERAL snow squalls. Did you think to check under the ice for the screws ? __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

03-11-08, 03:25 PM	#14
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Actually, I think it would be possible for an WWII era submarine to mistaken iceberg as an sinking ship. I've seen few documentaries and while the icebergs might look silent and just peacefully floating around, they make quite alot of noise. Mostly cracking sounds and whines. I did a quick search on youtube, only found this one clip:

03-11-08, 04:01 PM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The ice ship.....due in a future version of GWX......perhaps __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!