Any hope for shallow water victim?

Nuoz · 06-15-07, 04:24 AM

Is being hunt by Destroyers + shallow waters = sure death? Any brilhant tactics to get out of sight? I've managed before but not in 40m waters. I love the challenge though. Almost got out o their search pattern once. But then "We're being pinged, sir" hehe. They seem to radio others to the hunt too. I've tried going at 1 knot only but so far it proved as good as 2 knots. Even if they don't ear you, they ping you. This is why i love the GWX, it made this game accurate and challenging! I'll pick SH3 GWX over SH4 as it is now anyday!

Thniper · 06-15-07, 04:31 AM

I never escaped such situation alive. Happened to me twice.

So, always bear in mind:
"Stay out of shallow waters!" - if you wanna live long...

Happy hunting!

melnibonian · 06-15-07, 04:35 AM

Early in the war you might get away if the DD crew is green. As the years go by though if you get caught in shallow waters you will die. One way to avoid the depth charges is to try to position yourself in the Destroyer's blid side (its back). Also try to use bolds (if you have them) and as soon as they're lunched go at ahead flank for 10-20 seconds. After than it's silent running again. That should help you avoid the sonar pings and head for deep waters.

Good Luck

Captain Nemo · 06-15-07, 04:36 AM

Not necessarily. I got detected in less than 40m of water and took quite a hammering. Constantly getting pinged and depth charged. Took quite a bit of flooding and hit the ocean floor hard causing more damage. In fact I thought I was a goner. I had to disengage silent running to make repairs in order to get off the seabed and try and creep away, which I eventually did. So U-51 lives on to fight another day, I'm pleased to say. This was in March 1940, which was probably in my favour due to the convoy escorts not being as good as they were later in the war.

Nemo

Sebbe02 · 06-15-07, 04:38 AM

How many are there? If there aren't too many, my advice would be:

torp the suckers!!!

It works. They usually circle around you, and quite close too. Just set up a torp, preferably a magnetic keel shot, and look in the radio room to find where they are. If they come behind the stern/in front of the bow, quickly raise the scope and loose the torp!!!
It works with T1 (but you have to be really close) and T2 (bit more difficult to aim).

Another tactic is going ahead flank, and luring them behind you. If their behind you, heading the same course as you, you can sink them with a stern keel shot. It's being discussed somewhere on the forum.

I hope it helps for you!:p

DrMilton · 06-15-07, 05:40 AM

What happened to all that stuff about "...ASDIC is not that efficient in shallow waters":hmm: ??

Brag · 06-15-07, 05:47 AM

U-Boats were built for deep water!

Indiana_Jones · 06-15-07, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Brag

U-Boats were built for deep water!

Just not too deep lol

-Indy

Kpt. Lehmann · 06-15-07, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMilton

What happened to all that stuff about "...ASDIC is not that efficient in shallow waters":hmm: ??

Hydrophones work just fine in shallow water though... and "not that effective" doesn't mean that they wouldn't try to use ASDIC.

DrMilton · 06-15-07, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

and "not that effective" doesn't mean that they wouldn't try to use ASDIC.

Sure thing... but would they be successful? At least enough to leave me down there forever...?

Jimbuna · 06-15-07, 06:19 AM

The fundamental rule has got to be: Stay in deep water as much as possible

CapZap1970 · 06-15-07, 09:54 AM

Just hit the seabed gently, very gently and turn everything off. Worked for me a couple of times. Of course it must be done before you get detected. Later when I get home I will post a couple of screenshots.

CapZap

Captain Nemo · 06-15-07, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CapZap1970

Just hit the seabed gently, very gently and turn everything off. Worked for me a couple of times. Of course it must be done before you get detected. Later when I get home I will post a couple of screenshots.

CapZap

But how do you get your u-boat to stay on the bottom? I find that at all stop my boat starts to slowly rise (unless I'm taking damage and flooding).

Nemo

Jimbuna · 06-15-07, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapZap1970

Just hit the seabed gently, very gently and turn everything off. Worked for me a couple of times. Of course it must be done before you get detected. Later when I get home I will post a couple of screenshots.

CapZap

But how do you get your u-boat to stay on the bottom? I find that at all stop my boat starts to slowly rise (unless I'm taking damage and flooding).

Nemo

So punch a few small holes in your hull then

CapZap1970 · 06-15-07, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapZap1970

Just hit the seabed gently, very gently and turn everything off. Worked for me a couple of times. Of course it must be done before you get detected. Later when I get home I will post a couple of screenshots.

CapZap

But how do you get your u-boat to stay on the bottom? I find that at all stop my boat starts to slowly rise (unless I'm taking damage and flooding).

Nemo

The best way is to manually trim your depth a1 1 knot speed for a very brief period of time, and the cut engines again, and so on, and so on. It's quite tedious, but it works.

CapZap

06-15-07, 04:24 AM	#1
Nuoz Sparky Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Here Posts: 155 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Any hope for shallow water victim? Is being hunt by Destroyers + shallow waters = sure death? Any brilhant tactics to get out of sight? I've managed before but not in 40m waters. I love the challenge though. Almost got out o their search pattern once. But then "We're being pinged, sir" hehe. They seem to radio others to the hunt too. I've tried going at 1 knot only but so far it proved as good as 2 knots. Even if they don't ear you, they ping you. This is why i love the GWX, it made this game accurate and challenging! I'll pick SH3 GWX over SH4 as it is now anyday! __________________ "Listen, 'sir', it's real simple. Add the number of times we dive to the number of times we surface. Divide that number by two. If the result doesn't come out even, don't open the hatch"

06-15-07, 04:31 AM	#2
Thniper Planesman Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Niedersachsen, Germany Posts: 186 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	I never escaped such situation alive. Happened to me twice. So, always bear in mind: "Stay out of shallow waters!" - if you wanna live long... Happy hunting! __________________ "I cannot but conclude the bulk of your natives to be the most pernicious race of little odious vermin that nature ever suffered to crawl upon the surface of the earth." ------------------------------- Jonathan Swift, Gulliver's Travels (1726)

06-15-07, 04:35 AM	#3
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Early in the war you might get away if the DD crew is green. As the years go by though if you get caught in shallow waters you will die. One way to avoid the depth charges is to try to position yourself in the Destroyer's blid side (its back). Also try to use bolds (if you have them) and as soon as they're lunched go at ahead flank for 10-20 seconds. After than it's silent running again. That should help you avoid the sonar pings and head for deep waters. Good Luck __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

06-15-07, 04:36 AM	#4
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Not necessarily. I got detected in less than 40m of water and took quite a hammering. Constantly getting pinged and depth charged. Took quite a bit of flooding and hit the ocean floor hard causing more damage. In fact I thought I was a goner. I had to disengage silent running to make repairs in order to get off the seabed and try and creep away, which I eventually did. So U-51 lives on to fight another day, I'm pleased to say. This was in March 1940, which was probably in my favour due to the convoy escorts not being as good as they were later in the war. Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

06-15-07, 05:47 AM	#7
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06-15-07, 04:38 AM	#5
Sebbe02 Sailor man Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 44 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	How many are there? If there aren't too many, my advice would be: torp the suckers!!! It works. They usually circle around you, and quite close too. Just set up a torp, preferably a magnetic keel shot, and look in the radio room to find where they are. If they come behind the stern/in front of the bow, quickly raise the scope and loose the torp!!! It works with T1 (but you have to be really close) and T2 (bit more difficult to aim). Another tactic is going ahead flank, and luring them behind you. If their behind you, heading the same course as you, you can sink them with a stern keel shot. It's being discussed somewhere on the forum. I hope it helps for you!:p

06-15-07, 05:40 AM	#6
DrMilton Gunner Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Right in the middle of it... Posts: 94 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What happened to all that stuff about "...ASDIC is not that efficient in shallow waters":hmm: ??

06-15-07, 06:19 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The fundamental rule has got to be: Stay in deep water as much as possible __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-15-07, 09:54 AM	#12
CapZap1970 Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: La Paz, Bolivia Posts: 1,965 Downloads: 275 Uploads: 51	Just hit the seabed gently, very gently and turn everything off. Worked for me a couple of times. Of course it must be done before you get detected. Later when I get home I will post a couple of screenshots. CapZap __________________