Attacking the submarine base

[Captain Norman]

I just started a new career in 1939, after my brave crew in my previous career perished in a brave convoy attack, and so I decided to attempt something risky. After heading to my patrol area, and sinking a ship on the way there, and another on the way back, I decided that before I returned to port, id attack stuff at the submarine base thats north of Scotland. Now, I was able to successfully sneak in undetected, with silent running on underwater. I lined up for my attack on a warship, fired two torpedoes, both hit, destroying the warship. Now, being the stupid 17 year old I am, I watched the pyrotechnics of the explosion through my periscope, taking screens, and then I started getting pinged by destroyers. For the next 20 minutes, they chased me out of there, with my ship still under silent runnings, getting depth charged constantly. Unfortanately, my crew could not repair all the compartments fast enough, so in the end, after many depth charges they got me.
Im interested in knowing if there was anything I could have done to get out of there alive, so I can attempt it agian perhaps on my next patrol.

[Brag]

YES! Stay out of harbours and shallow water

[STEED]

What is this suicidal fascination in going into a harbour full of destroyers mines and nets? Some captains out there seem to have a crazy death wish.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I died not long ago. I'm not ashamed. I proved that a VIIC can go to 430 meters without imploding. Realistic vulnerability on

[GoldenRivet]

try this, if you see a ship you would like to sink and it is in port... line up a stern shot at the very limit of the torpedo range. this will of course allow you only 1 or 2 shots depending o nthe type of boat your using.

if you want to make use of the bow tubes however line up a shot so that you are having to shoot at a bearing about 70-80 degrees off the port or starboard bow - near the maximum angle of deflection the torpedo can turn to. also you should be nearly at the maximum range of the torpedoes your shooting.

when the last fish clears the tube... turn to leave the port and head for deeper waters, if its night and the destroyers are in port to you might risk flank speed on the surface...

hopefully either way you will have already cleared a couple of miles out of port before the first torpedo even hits the target.

in short go for long distance shots with your boat sitting in a position that requiores you to make the shortest turn to exit the area... ie if you are pointing straight at the target you will have to make a 180 degree turn to leave the area - this will take far to long. be in a position to "shoot and scoot". pyrotechnics are nice to look at but if you stick around to watch them it may very well be the last thing you see!

unless you are depsarate or like captain Ahab chasing down a white wale - never - NEVER hunt inside of waters less than 80 to 100 meters unless your in a position to hit a merchant and haul a$$ to deep water under no immediate threat from retaliation.

hope this helps

[CaptainAsh]

The depth of the water you can chase in depends of the year.
In 39/40 it s quite easy to get rid of destroyer in water between 40 and 60 meters,
60-80 for 41, after it s not safe anywhere anyway so I will say 80+

[Foghladh_mhara]

That Lerwick is a dangerous place. Got mauled there a few days ago which is why I will never raid another harbour!!! Only about 3m under the keel at periscope depth so when them V&W's start thrashing about theres no going deep to avoid them. I was surprised they never hit my bridge. Mind you they did run aground

[danurve]

Originally Posted by STEED

What is this suicidal fascination in going into a harbour full of destroyers mines and nets? Some captains out there seem to have a crazy death wish.

Well... some of use not paddeling around the east coast in those big IX sonar magnets still treat our type 7's like II's and sniff out a harbour

[Captain Norman]

Well, remember as I said, im a dumb 17 year old :P so yeah, I tend to be pretty brave. Well, I guess ill leave this place alone. Ill just stalk the waters around Scapa Flow I guess.

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by danurve

Well... some of use not paddeling around the east coast in those big IX sonar magnets still treat our type 7's like II's and sniff out a harbour

I gotta say .......TOUCHE:rotfl:

[STEED]

Originally Posted by danurve

Well... some of use not paddeling around the east coast in those big IX sonar magnets still treat our type 7's like II's and sniff out a harbour

Fresh meat for the Allie grinder. :rotfl:

[TriskettheKid]

Originally Posted by STEED

What is this suicidal fascination in going into a harbour full of destroyers mines and nets? Some captains out there seem to have a crazy death wish.

Because it's hard.

Because it requires constant attention to everything that's going on in the harbor and on my boat.

Because some harbors are VERY challenging.

But for the most part:

Because I can.

[Captain Norman]

Originally Posted by TriskettheKid

Because it's hard.

Because it requires constant attention to everything that's going on in the harbor and on my boat.

Because some harbors are VERY challenging.

But for the most part:

Because I can.

Same here. It was 1939 too so it wasnt anywhere NEAR as bad as it possibly could have been. And I was in the boat I was best at, a trusted type VII, so all was well. I could have made it out, but I think the only thing that stopped me was the fact I stayed in the same place long enough for them to catch me. My guys kept up with repairs for quite a while, it was only in the end when they became fatigued. So in reality, I put up a good fight that I can be quite proud of.

[STEED]

Death wish fan club now open for harbour raiders. :rotfl:

[FIREWALL]

Captain Norman Where you hopeing to see some enemy subs ?
I was i'm sad to admite. Had a bad experience and no subs.