Question to moders

[makman94]

hello subsimers,

in the stock menu_ini , at the captain's log page, there are the following entries :

[G35 I2]
Name=AddLogEntryGrp
Type=1026;Menu group
ItemID=0x35010000
ParentID=0x35000000
Pos=157,643,650,639
Color=0xFFFFFFFF

[G35 I3]
Name=Cancel
Type=1032;Button
ItemID=0x35010004
ParentID=0x35010000
Pos=5,-597,85,36
Materials=4
Display=0;No stretch
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/layout/bkgr.tga
Crop 0=0,0,4,4
Mat 1=data/menu/gui/layout/bkgr.tga
Crop 1=0,0,4,4
Mat 2=data/menu/gui/layout/bkgr.tga
Crop 2=0,0,4,4
Mat 3=data/menu/gui/layout/bkgr.tga
Crop 3=0,0,4,4
MatFlags=0x1
TexFmt=0x9
Font=13
Text=2371
TextFlags=0x5
StatesColors=0xB0B0B0FF, 0xAAAAAAFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G35 I4]
Name=Ok
Type=1032;Button
ItemID=0x35010003
ParentID=0x35010000
Pos=559,-597,85,36
Materials=4
Display=0;No stretch
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/layout/bkgr.tga
Crop 0=0,0,4,4
Mat 1=data/menu/gui/layout/bkgr.tga
Crop 1=0,0,4,4
Mat 2=data/menu/gui/layout/bkgr.tga
Crop 2=0,0,4,4
Mat 3=data/menu/gui/layout/bkgr.tga
Crop 3=0,0,4,4
MatFlags=0x1
TexFmt=0x9
Font=13
Text=12
TextFlags=0x5
StatesColors=0xB0B0B0FF, 0xAAAAAAFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G35 I5]
Name=LogText
Type=1035;Edit box
ItemID=0x35010002
ParentID=0x35010000
Pos=8,-9,631,581
Color=0xFFFFFF96
Materials=4
Display=4;All directions
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/layout/sel.tga
Mat 1=data/menu/gui/layout/sel.tga
Mat 2=data/menu/gui/layout/sel.tga
Mat 3=data/menu/gui/layout/sel.tga
MatFlags=0x1
TexFmt=0x9
Font=5
Text=0
TextFlags=0x10
StatesColors=0xCDBEB4FF, 0xCDBEB4FF, 0xCDBEB4FF, 0xCDBEB4FF
TextMaxLen=1014

[G35 I6]
Name=Msg bkgr
Type=1030;Static bmp
ItemID=0x35010001
ParentID=0x35010000
Pos=3,-4,643,631
Materials=1
Display=2;Linear
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/layout/bkgr.tga
Crop 0=0,0,4,4
MatFlags=0x1
TexFmt=0x9

the above entries are describing a group that the user can add texts to captain's diary.

a few entries lower ,at entry number 9 , there is this :

[G35 I9]
Type=1032;Button
ItemID=0x35000006
ParentID=0x35000000
Pos=851,156,155,138
Color=0xFFFFFFFF
Materials=4
Display=3;Middle
Font=0
Text=4025
TextFlags=0x15
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0x555555FF, 0xDD5800FF, 0xDD5800FF

the above entry is discribing a button which is called ''Add Log Entry'' (text number 4025 at menu.cfg) and it is the button that is enabling the above group for adding texts to diary.

this button is not appearing on user's screen (all the other buttons in this page are appearing normaly) so it is obvious that devs have forced ,via the hardcoded files, this button to be hidden probably becuase the code for this button is unfinished or broken.

can any of the 'hardcode guys' (Stiebler , H.sie ,Reaper7 , TDW) have a look at the code for this button and see if can be 'healed' ? maybe,if we are lucky and it is a 'small' task, we will be able to add texts at the captain's log

[Stiebler]

This is a nice idea, but harder in practice.

I spent two hours today looking for the code for 'Captain's Log', and I was unable to find it.

Separately, I think that you are perhaps mistaken that the code for 'Add log entry' was disabled because it was incomplete. It would have been easier to remove the references to 'Add Log Entry' in menu_1024_768.ini. My guess is that the code does not exist at all.

However, we cannot be sure until someone finds the code for 'Captain's Log'.

Stiebler.

[makman94]

Originally Posted by Stiebler

This is a nice idea, but harder in practice.

I spent two hours today looking for the code for 'Captain's Log', and I was unable to find it.

Separately, I think that you are perhaps mistaken that the code for 'Add log entry' was disabled because it was incomplete. It would have been easier to remove the references to 'Add Log Entry' in menu_1024_768.ini. My guess is that the code does not exist at all.

However, we cannot be sure until someone finds the code for 'Captain's Log'.

Stiebler.

yes, i thought the same thing Stiebler about why not removing the references to 'Add Log Entry' in menu_ini but ,on the other hand, why they left it there ? propably they forgot it.
anyway, thank you for your time looking at it

[reaper7]

I would imagine it was an oversight on the devs side to remove the entries from the files for a feature that never made it into sh3.

Maybe there may be an alternative method to achieve this, once I have some free time I will look into alternative methods to achieve the same.

[CaptBones]

Well, it may not be even close to the method desired here (making log entries while in the game) but, a realistic method already exists in SH3 Commander..."Review Patrol Logs" permits the user to add/edit log entries after completing a patrol.

I wrote "realistic method" because that is just like the old-time process for producing the USN Deck Log, or "Journal" or "Diary" as it's called in other services. A "rough" Log (the Quartermaster's Notebook) was kept on the bridge (surface ships), or in the control room (subs), where the QMOW (Quartermaster of the Watch) made hand-written entries of the ship's navigational data (position, course, speed, changes in course and speed, etc., etc.), weather observations and all the significant events taking place in/on and around the ship. The information in the Notebook was later transcribed into a type-written "smooth" Log (as well as being used to produce Patrol Reports and such); affording the CO an opportunity to add details and "smooth" the information (fix errors...the rough Log and smooth Log were both turned in to the Bureau of Navigation, later BuPers, and any discrepancies would be thoroughly investigated (been there, done that!).

Maybe it's just a force of habit, but I find it convenient and very "realistic" to keep notes...a "Rough Log"...while in the game and then transform those into "Smooth Log" entries after returning from patrol. Of course, if you don't use SH3 Commander, then it can't be done this way.

Nonetheless, I do hope one of those wonderful "hardcode guys" can find the fix you're looking for; it would be very handy. I presume it would also produce a Log that could still be edited after-the-fact in SH3 Commander...?

[makman94]

Originally Posted by reaper7

I would imagine it was an oversight on the devs side to remove the entries from the files for a feature that never made it into sh3.

Maybe there may be an alternative method to achieve this, once I have some free time I will look into alternative methods to achieve the same.

hi John ,
if it turns out to be hard just let it go mate ,it is not big deal.
as i saw the entries in the menu_ini i guessed that maybe the code existed but it was somehow broken or unfinished and maybe it was a 'easy' task for you guys.
but now , that the clues show that the code doesn't even exist ,i don't think that it is worthing much effort for such a feature

Originally Posted by CaptBones

Well, it may not be even close to the method desired here (making log entries while in the game) but, a realistic method already exists in SH3 Commander..."Review Patrol Logs" permits the user to add/edit log entries after completing a patrol.

I wrote "realistic method" because that is just like the old-time process for producing the USN Deck Log, or "Journal" or "Diary" as it's called in other services. A "rough" Log (the Quartermaster's Notebook) was kept on the bridge (surface ships), or in the control room (subs), where the QMOW (Quartermaster of the Watch) made hand-written entries of the ship's navigational data (position, course, speed, changes in course and speed, etc., etc.), weather observations and all the significant events taking place in/on and around the ship. The information in the Notebook was later transcribed into a type-written "smooth" Log (as well as being used to produce Patrol Reports and such); affording the CO an opportunity to add details and "smooth" the information (fix errors...the rough Log and smooth Log were both turned in to the Bureau of Navigation, later BuPers, and any discrepancies would be thoroughly investigated (been there, done that!).

Maybe it's just a force of habit, but I find it convenient and very "realistic" to keep notes...a "Rough Log"...while in the game and then transform those into "Smooth Log" entries after returning from patrol. Of course, if you don't use SH3 Commander, then it can't be done this way.

Nonetheless, I do hope one of those wonderful "hardcode guys" can find the fix you're looking for; it would be very handy. I presume it would also produce a Log that could still be edited after-the-fact in SH3 Commander...?

hi CaptBones,

i see what you mean with the commander but if i have to do it outside the game then i would also prefer to keep a real diary notes .
but to tell you the truth i ,personally, don't think that i will ever write anything to this diary.
all the above posts from me , i guess is more about the fun to see things fixing and working in game rather than the use of the diary itself.

[CaptBones]

Thanks makman,

It's good to know there are those out there with motivation like that. I suppose the entire community benefits from that kind of focus and pursuit of "perfection"...or as close as it comes to being attained.

BTW, assuming your grid coordinates are your home and not a favorite patrol area, I suppose you live in Malta? Valletta and Athens were two of my favorite ports of call back when I cruised the Med...

[Fubar2Niner]

Originally Posted by JeromeHeretic

And what? It follows name of thread, so what problem do you have?
Id like to read answers, not this bull****.

Answer to ? 1 Yes
" 2 Not sure
" 3 Again not sure
" 4 Possibly there have been many helpme's

Now a question of my own........ Why do you find it harder to open a new thread than easier to insult someone?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by JeromeHeretic

And what? It follows name of thread, so what problem do you have?
Id like to read answers, not this bull****.

Originally Posted by JeromeHeretic

I think that is not useful create new threads for everything, because it only make big mess on server. Good reason for new thread is for example creating of new (complicated) mod where you want discuss about this mod.

And anyway - with my questions i follow the name of thread, so i think my questions are here OK, this thread is place right for this, isn't it?

Ad Q No. 1 - And do you know WHERE to turn it off?

Would you please be kind enough to start a separate thread.

I should also point out that the use of asterisks for the purposes of using terminology not allowed by the auto sensor is also forbidden.

One more thing...name calling and insulting members is not tolerated here either.

TIA

[Jimbuna]

Best if things are just left to simmer down.

[Fubar2Niner]

Aye

[makman94]

Originally Posted by CaptBones

....

BTW, assuming your grid coordinates are your home and not a favorite patrol area, I suppose you live in Malta? Valletta and Athens were two of my favorite ports of call back when I cruised the Med...

hi CaptBones,
co37 is at Crete. you are (were) a sailor ?

Originally Posted by JeromeHeretic

.... It follows name of thread,....

Originally Posted by JeromeHeretic

And anyway - with my questions i follow the name of thread, so i think my questions are here OK, this thread is place right for this, isn't it?
.....

name of thread is 'question to moders' and not 'questions to moders'.

Originally Posted by JeromeHeretic

I think that is not useful create new threads for everything, because it only make big mess on server.

now i see the damage from the guys who are posting at 'general topics' section

[DragonRider]

Whatever happened to Un-Ticking the auto reload box on the torpedo screen

[Jimbuna]

I've moved the reported posts to another thread:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=206346

Please use your dedicated thread in future.