Level-D 767 flightplan converter?

Skybird · 08-29-07, 03:33 PM

Owners of the Level-D 767 certainly know that the FMC cannot read flightplans constructed with FS9 or a tool like for example FS Commander. However, every once in a while I check and search and ask if maybe meanwhile a converter tool has been developed by somebody? For wilco 767 and FS2002, at least Navigator 4.5 was capable to produce 767-compatible flightplans. It does not work with Level-D's 767 for FS2004, and I do not use Navigator anymore anyway, but FS Commander 7.7.

as the Beta-team for 767 admitted, in real world flightplans usually get uploaded to the FMC, are only rarely are typed in by hand. I consider it to be a minor... irritation. At least it is no fun.

So give me a converter, please.

Seeadler · 08-30-07, 06:06 AM

AFAIK one of the updates for FS Commander include exporting to Level-D format.

Skybird · 08-30-07, 06:14 AM

Grrrr... I need to check that, Im running FSC 7.7, but have missed so far there is 767 compatability.

Skybird · 08-30-07, 06:25 AM

Damn, 40 years old and I'm already senile - big and centred there are the tick boxes for the various addon planes in the save as-dialogue...

One more question like this and I'll think about burying myself.

Linton · 09-01-07, 02:10 PM

As someone who does this for a living, a lot of us still input the flight plan manually into the fmc.I have no experience of the sim version but in real life I do it like this:
1 Input city pair
2 Input rwy and sid
3 From end of sid line select on the left at the last point
This should bring up a different page and on the left should be a via/to input box.Enter airway and waypoint.
This should bring up in the legs page all the points on that airway to the point you have selected.
4 line select again from the last point with another airway waypoint combo
5 Input a runway and star
6 The route should be complete without anyt discos.
This is only about 1/5 of what we do as you also have winds weights and constraints etc to load.
If anybody wants any more info pm me.

Skybird · 09-01-07, 03:25 PM

Thanks Linton, I know how to do it, and it is exactly the procedure you described, but only a part of the whole FMC preparation. It's just - I'm lazy, you know...

Over the months and years I have heared from pilots both things: that their airline wants them to do it manually, and that they are just uploding the flight route. I wonder what the criterion is.

You fly a 767? Good to know, if I ever have questions!

If you are interested I could try to put up the FMC-part of the manual so that you can compare what is in the sim, and what not, Would be interesting to hear from a real 767 flyer where the sim is correct, and where it is different. But several 767 flyers have been part of the programming team, so...

Linton · 09-02-07, 08:27 AM

Didn't fly the 76 but did a couple of months on the 75.I have an fmc manual somewhere in the loft for it.

Skybird · 09-02-07, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linton

Didn't fly the 76 but did a couple of months on the 75.I have an fmc manual somewhere in the loft for it.

I hope so, else you should be kicked out of cockpit immediately!

Anyhow, i meant the FMc manual for the sim, not the real thing. Here is the manual for the Level-D B767, version FS2004.

http://www.leveldsim.com/files/Level-D67-Manual.exe

FMC page 69-123.

They have reworked the manual completely for FSX, though.

as a 757 flyer, shouldn't you have a valid type rating for the 767 as well, then?

Linton · 09-03-07, 02:39 PM

The rating in the licence is B757/767.The conversion course was for the 757 only and if you fly the 767 you do a differences course.It is the same with the Airbus family as well A300 also gets you A310,and A320 gets you A318-A321.A manual for the real Honneywell fmc can be bought from here:http://www.afeonline.com/shop/index.php?cPath=38_295 and it covers almost all the Boeings.
I also have the checkride guide and can recommend it.

08-29-07, 03:33 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,615 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Level-D 767 flightplan converter? Owners of the Level-D 767 certainly know that the FMC cannot read flightplans constructed with FS9 or a tool like for example FS Commander. However, every once in a while I check and search and ask if maybe meanwhile a converter tool has been developed by somebody? For wilco 767 and FS2002, at least Navigator 4.5 was capable to produce 767-compatible flightplans. It does not work with Level-D's 767 for FS2004, and I do not use Navigator anymore anyway, but FS Commander 7.7. as the Beta-team for 767 admitted, in real world flightplans usually get uploaded to the FMC, are only rarely are typed in by hand. I consider it to be a minor... irritation. At least it is no fun. So give me a converter, please. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-30-07, 06:06 AM	#2
Seeadler Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1,096 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	AFAIK one of the updates for FS Commander include exporting to Level-D format. __________________ -- Vapor-ware is always easier to sell because there's no limit what it can do!

08-30-07, 06:14 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,615 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Grrrr... I need to check that, Im running FSC 7.7, but have missed so far there is 767 compatability. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-30-07, 06:25 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,615 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Damn, 40 years old and I'm already senile - big and centred there are the tick boxes for the various addon planes in the save as-dialogue... One more question like this and I'll think about burying myself. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-01-07, 02:10 PM	#5
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	As someone who does this for a living, a lot of us still input the flight plan manually into the fmc.I have no experience of the sim version but in real life I do it like this: 1 Input city pair 2 Input rwy and sid 3 From end of sid line select on the left at the last point This should bring up a different page and on the left should be a via/to input box.Enter airway and waypoint. This should bring up in the legs page all the points on that airway to the point you have selected. 4 line select again from the last point with another airway waypoint combo 5 Input a runway and star 6 The route should be complete without anyt discos. This is only about 1/5 of what we do as you also have winds weights and constraints etc to load. If anybody wants any more info pm me. __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

09-01-07, 03:25 PM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,615 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Thanks Linton, I know how to do it, and it is exactly the procedure you described, but only a part of the whole FMC preparation. It's just - I'm lazy, you know... Over the months and years I have heared from pilots both things: that their airline wants them to do it manually, and that they are just uploding the flight route. I wonder what the criterion is. You fly a 767? Good to know, if I ever have questions! If you are interested I could try to put up the FMC-part of the manual so that you can compare what is in the sim, and what not, Would be interesting to hear from a real 767 flyer where the sim is correct, and where it is different. But several 767 flyers have been part of the programming team, so... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-02-07, 08:27 AM	#7
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Didn't fly the 76 but did a couple of months on the 75.I have an fmc manual somewhere in the loft for it. __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

09-03-07, 02:39 PM	#9
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The rating in the licence is B757/767.The conversion course was for the 757 only and if you fly the 767 you do a differences course.It is the same with the Airbus family as well A300 also gets you A310,and A320 gets you A318-A321.A manual for the real Honneywell fmc can be bought from here:http://www.afeonline.com/shop/index.php?cPath=38_295 and it covers almost all the Boeings. I also have the checkride guide and can recommend it. __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/