The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar

[Oberon]

Can't skip due process just because it's unpopular.

[Jimbuna]

Well he didn't last long.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by MaDef

Since he is a U.S. citizen, He should be tried for treason, stripped of his citizenship, and hung. But that won't happen. It will be 3-4 years before He goes to trial and another 10-20 before he is executed if by some chance he is given the death penalty.

Instead of people like him being called US citizens with an Afghan migration background, I tend to think of such people as - in this case - Afghans with US papers. In some way this changed wording ilustrates what it is about.

I disagree with those "pragmatic socialists" wanting to make people believe that nationality is only about a bureaucratic formality. The important point is biographically grown identity. And that cannot be switched from green to yellow just by putting a stamp onto some official papers. A stamp is just a stamp and a paper is just a paper. But felt identity and felt belief is somethign that breathes a life of its own, so to speak, and for Islamic people, if they really are that: truely Islamic, nationality is meaningless anyway, for what supercedes state order is Shariah anyway. That is something that many politicians and left sympathisers just do not want to understand, for it spoils their claim that all people are equal and principally the same. They are not. The differences are immense. To reduce ethnic and cultural major differences to the level of profance bureaucratic formalities is a way to deny the existence of fundamental differences. But identity is not that arbitrary. It is the result of a biographic past. You can try to ignore the past. But it nevertheless makes itself felt.

And no, we are not all of the same "value". By far not. And there are quite some without whom the world man lives in would be much better off.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Can't skip due process just because it's unpopular.

I wasn't suggesting that, just voicing my frustration @ the U.S. government that is going to bend over backward to convince everyone that this as an isolated incident in an effort to not offend Muslims and to appear tolerant to the rest of the planet.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by MaDef

I wasn't suggesting that, just voicing my frustration @ the U.S. government that is going to bend over backward to convince everyone that this as an isolated incident in an effort to not offend Muslims and to appear tolerant to the rest of the planet.

[MaDef]

Not bait, You call it a war on terror, yet refuse to prosecute it as such. And for that reason you won't/can't win.

[Oberon]

Fair enough, that's your opinion and you are free to have it.

[Von Due]

Perhaps have a chat with your local officials before booking tickets to Tunisia, if the sources are correct
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950629001226

Exactly what Tunisia and Libya need right now, a flaring up of violence

On somewhat the same theme
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950629001248

Kind of interesting to know they mention that, according to this source, this drone could not have been made by ISIS given the technological complexity. Keep in mind that Fars News is Iranian and while they too are fighting ISIS, they are also supporting Assad in Syria, and Russia's involvement, while at the same time being vocal in their claims that the US is behind ISIS. It's not like Hobby King refuse to sell rc parts to paying customers if those customers were named Yussuf and Muhammud and ISIS do have educated people in their ranks, people with degrees in what people do get degrees in at Universities. Still, one that can't be brushed off entirely, just have that grain of salt nearby. At least it goes to show what a mess the whole Syrian conflict is.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Von Due

what a mess the whole Syrian conflict is.

Most complex and complicated modern conflict there has been so far. Over 100 factions having their hands in it: nations, militias, organisations, groups...

In words again: over one hundred.

Or as some analyst put it some weeks ago: the Syria conflict is tried to be pushed into 30 different directions for 30 different wishes for its outcome simultaneoulsy.

Motivation ranges from brandnew animosities between two players, to hostilities between some tow others ranging back over one thousand years.

To call all that a "mess", somewhat is an understatement. I think we do not yet have an adequate word for a mess like this.

[Von Due]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I think we do not yet have an adequate word for a mess like this.

That's the truth right there.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Von Due

That's the truth right there.

Immikrieg?

[Oberon]

I think there are words for it, but they probably can't be used here.

[mapuc]

Have through Danish news channel heard Russia are sending their carrier kuznetsov to the coast of Syria.

I can't let go of the feeling
They didn't sent the Kuznetsov to give more military air support to Assad. They sent the carrier to give USA a political wink

Markus

[Oberon]

Thought that deployment was being delayed? That's what they said two days ago, due to 'unspecified reasons' but suspected pilot shortages for the MiG-29KR.
The Kuznetsov is pretty out of date anyway, and in need of frequent repair and refits, there's supposed to be a big one happening next year to extend her service life another 25 years but Russia really needs to build another carrier if they want to stay in the carrier game.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Thought that deployment was being delayed? That's what they said two days ago, due to 'unspecified reasons' but suspected pilot shortages for the MiG-29KR.
The Kuznetsov is pretty out of date anyway, and in need of frequent repair and refits, there's supposed to be a big one happening next year to extend her service life another 25 years but Russia really needs to build another carrier if they want to stay in the carrier game.

They'll probably sell it to India anyway