Wuhan virus 2020

[Jimbuna]

[Catfish]

Not sure whether this fits here or uon the UK thread..
I heard tourism abroad has been 'allowed' and Mallorca awaits english tourists?
But now:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2BF0P0

[Jimbuna]

I tend to agree and will add support to vaccination passports also.

It may only be a short matter of time before travel into the UK from Europe could face stiffer restrictions.

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

A minute's silence is held to remember the victims of Covid-19

Tuesday marks the first anniversary of lockdown being called in the UK

The Queen has sent flowers to a London hospital where Prince Philip was treated recently with a message saying it is a day to "reflect on the grief and loss"

People are also being encouraged to stand on their doorsteps with lights at 20:00 GMT, as part of a national day of reflection.

Weekly coronavirus death figures in England and Wales are at their lowest since October, national statistics show.

But across the pandemic, there have been 147,681 deaths in the UK where Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate; 126,172 within 28 days of a positive test.

The government is considering making vaccines for care home staff compulsory, Matt Hancock says.

Germany extends its lockdown to 18 April and will shut down almost completely over the Easter holiday from 1-5 April to slow soaring infections.

The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out of the body's cells, say researchers.

[Jimbuna]

Germany is extending its current lockdown to 18 April and shutting down almost completely over the Easter holiday from 1-5 April to slow down soaring infections. Chancellor Angela Merkel and state leaders had hoped to loosen the lockdown, but she said they had to “break the exponential growth of the third wave”. Over five days at Easter, only food shops can open for one day on Saturday 3 April and no more than five adults from two households can meet. The slogan is “We’re staying at home”. A further 7,485 infections and 250 deaths have been announced in the past 24 hours.

Spain’s ministry of health has approved extending the use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine to everyone up to the age of 65 after initially restricting it to under 55s including key workers such firefighters, police and teachers. AZ vaccinations are to resume in Spain tomorrow after a short suspension for safety checks. The jab will also be extended to over-65s if it’s backed by a national health panel.

While many European countries are seeing a third Covid wave, Denmark has escaped that and its political leaders have agreed a gradual plan to reopen the country. Schools and professions such as hairdressers will start opening up after Easter. A corona pass is being introduced to show whether you have been vaccinated or have a negative test.

The Czech death toll from the pandemic has passed 25,000. In a separate milestone, a million Czechs have now had at least one dose of vaccine, out of a population of 10.7 million.

French hospitals have admitted another 471 patients into intensive care in 24 hours, and another 15,792 cases have been reported. The total number in intensive care is over 4,500.

Bosnia has reported a record 73 daily coronavirus deaths. The capital Sarajevo and majority ethnic-Serb region, Republika Srpska, are both in lockdown.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I tend to agree and will add support to vaccination passports also.

It may only be a short matter of time before travel into the UK from Europe could face stiffer restrictions.

Immunizations and accompanying documentation have always been required when applying for a visa. I traveled with mine knowing I could be asked for it in country. Only change I see on the horizon would be immunization records for domestic travel.

Interesting little tidbit from U.S. Health and Human Services website

How far in advance should I get vaccinated before traveling?

It’s important to get vaccinated at least 4 to 6 weeks before you travel. This will give the vaccines time to start working, so you’re protected while you’re traveling. It will also usually make sure there’s enough time for you to get vaccines that require more than 1 dose.

Something to keep in mind after getting your COVID shot.

[Jimbuna]

The current time period in the UK between jabs is three months.

I received my first jab on 16th February and will not receive the second until 11th May

[Skybird]

Not the Eagle, but the Snail should be Germany's heraldic animal. A messing around and dabbling that you just want to scream and kick and throw things around.

https://translate.google.com/transla...chluessen.html

I could throw up bathing tubs. You may quote me on that.

An older man in the house where my parnets lived, troied to get vaccinated. He counted it. I took him four forms, two online questionaires , three telephone calls and at the centre where they jabbed him 13 human contacts (!) to finally get the jab.

In other countries, you get a note by your house dioctor, you got here, and you are done. Or you board your car, drive in, drive thgorugh, et voila.

Not so in Germany. Bureaucracy is the omniptent master here. And the politicians desperately fight against changing that.

After the last lockdsown, lasting months, children returend into the same unequipped, unportected schools they left months before: not sufficjent digitlaization, no air filtering whatsover, nothing. Now the school and kidergardens should be kept open. The opporutnity to equip schools better, they let pass by. As so many other things as well.

Bathing tubs of puke.

Months and months went by - and they learned NOTHING. Repeat the same thigns over and over again, for nothing, and expect that thsi time it will work what already the last times has not worked.

[mapuc]

The Danish Parliament have made an agreement on the opening of the society.

The opening will be in steps and as written before when every citizens above 50 years old and those who are vulnerable have got one of both sticks the Country will open almost fully.

Beside-The Parliament has decided to introduce a Vaccine passport.

It will be freely to own one of these passport.

On the other hand the Parliament has made it so-that a citizens can't do almost anything without it.

Going to the cinema-Corona vaccine pas is needed, eating out - Corona vaccine pas is needed...a.s.o.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

[August]

In a deep dive article published over the weekend, the New York Times chronicles some important lessons from the ongoing Coronavirus vaccine distribution saga. The Washington Examiner's Byron York summarizes the findings with three take-aways: First, "Trump's leadership on vaccine was vastly better than anyone in Europe." Second, "when it came to a vaccine, Britain was smart to leave the EU." Third, elite opinion was "dreadfully wrong" on both counts. The piece begins with a vignette of President Trump fielding calls from European leaders desperate for advice about how they might belatedly replicate some of America's success in this critical area. They still haven't caught up

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...wrong-n2586604

[Skybird]

Europe in permanent crisis - prevention logic and entrepreneurship

(ANDREAS TÖGEL) No end of the pandemic in sight. The governments of Euroland have been fighting the virus for more than a year - so far with fairly manageable success. The bankruptcy of the vaccination campaign that is simply not gaining momentum exacerbates the problem because it continues the - presumably unsuitable - means of imposing lockdowns.
Thousands of companies are going under, hundreds of thousands are losing their wages. Politics mercilessly turn them into charity recipients. Using a medicine - in the case of a pandemic this is the lockdown - that shows itself ineffectiveness anew every day does not, however, show any particular wisdom. The responsible politicians and “experts” don't care, because their jobs and incomes are not affected. The fact that (almost) everyone around the world is using the same questionable strategy doesn't make matters any better.
Corona, however, offers politicians a welcome opportunity to elegantly divert attention from the mistakes they have made in the past. Regardless of the pandemic, Euroland has been suffering from structural weaknesses for many years (to be precise: since the Maastricht Treaty, which came into force in 1992), which the epidemic only exacerbates but does not cause. There are already increasing voices from economists who are addressing the lack of growth in the eurozone and clearly naming its causes.
In a conversation with “Agenda Austria”, Gabriel Felbermayr, President of the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, draws attention to the fact that the EU does not even manage to allow growth. He sees the risk that Euroland could fall even further behind the USA and China economically in the wake of the Corona crisis. At the same time, the recovery in China would drive up raw material prices and inflation would be imported from the USA. All developments that had a negative impact on the European economy. The economist attributes the low economic dynamism in Euroland to the “prevention logic” practiced there, which has been gaining ground more and more for years.
Indeed, the main difference between the EU and its international competitors is that the political class is less interested in enabling and more on preventing entrepreneurial activity. Not necessarily planned, and sometimes even supported by good intentions, but nonetheless harmful. The "energy turnaround" in Germany, which has long since failed, the brutal struggle of left-wing ecological forces against the omnipresent "climate change" and the European (automotive) industry, as well as the focus on orchid issues such as politically correct language, anti-discrimination and the relentless fight against the allegedly ubiquitous racism are examples.
Under the current conditions, who should take it upon himself to become entrepreneurial when he has just been shown that the government is always willing and able to deprive him of his economic basis with the stroke of a pen? Industry examples: gastronomy, hotel, event industry, travel agencies and fitness centers. In view of gloomy future prospects and completely lost legal and planning security, who is still interested in fighting through a jungle of authorities to be allowed to practice a simple trade? The density of regulation - and the socialists in all parties simply do not want to understand this - is nowhere in the world more hostile to business than in the EU.
However, Felbermayr sees one of the structural problems in Europe that can hardly be solved in the increasing aging of the continent. Old people are always careful to preserve what they have achieved and do not place any value on change - also and certainly not as far as the economic framework conditions and their supposedly “well-acquired rights” are concerned. They are deeply structurally conservative and successfully prevent - thanks to their demographic and thus political preponderance - they can - the “creative destruction” that characterizes every market economy.
Since the young people most affected by the decline of Europe today, unlike the rabid 1968ers at one time, show no inclination or inclination to demand that their interests be safeguarded - such as enabling and promoting a new start-up offensive that offers them promising future prospects - the decline is likely to occur of the Old World even after the pandemic has subsided. The prospects for the old world are not good.

https://www.ortneronline.at/europa-i...feindlichkeit/

[Skybird]

29 million doses of the aZU vaccine have been found in a storage site in Italy. They are (were?) meant for export to the UK, produced in the Netherlands and bottled in Italy.

Report first was released by La Stampa and later confirmed towards German DPA. La Stampa wrote that AZ has deliberatly not told the EU of the existence of this storage.

The discovery is explosive because Astrazeneca is very far behind in deliveries to the European Union. Instead of up to 220 million cans, the company wants to deliver only 100 million to the EU states by the middle of the year. Most recently, the vaccine manufacturer promised to deliver 30 million doses to the EU in the first quarter - roughly equivalent to the number of doses found in Italy.

Lets face it, even if the EU negotiated terribly bad with AZ - and others - and signed an hilariously lousily worded treaty (that in a comment was practically destroyed by the head of the German industry association who ridiculed the incompetence and naivety of the EU in signing such a set of legally failed formulations), AZ has done what it can to destroy its reputation, and they started with that already during their phase 1 trials in late rSpring and early summer last year. By now I rate their trustworthiness as exaclty nill point nill nill.

The UK play it tough, and from their POV they must do it. I am excited to see what happens now, whether the EU gets is remaining sense of realism together and plays it tough, too, or again betrays the people of the European states. The US rations exports of vaccines. Russia does it. The UK does it. China does it. They all use vaccines as a political tool of foreign politics. Time to wake up, EU - your super-idealist intention not only has failed, but had no chance from beginning on. And you could have known that: if only you would have wanted.

My logic often ticks surprisingly simple. If you get hit, hit back, and carry on hitting until the other stops hitting you.

[Catfish]

I guess there are small union jacks printed on the vaccine phioles (they really wanted to do this in England), and maybe you can even see them under the microscope, little Union Jacks impressed on the molecules. That's pride and patriotism

re Skybird i have said this weeks ago. Funny how fast the thin coat of civilisation wears off.
Maybe it was best for the EU to go on and let the world decide what to make out of anyone's actions.