1.5 without the U-Boat expansion?

[Hitman]

While I'm 0f course buying the expansion, I would like to know if there will be a mini-patch for download that adds whatever upgrades/fixes are compatible with the US boats and brings the normal SH4 also to 1.5 :hmm:

Also, can someone confirm if the new abilities (Call aircraft, surface groups, etc.) are now available also for the US subs?

[CCIP]

I don't have the game yet, BUT

One of the pre-release interviews clearly stated that the new "strategic" features were NOT implemented into the US campaign, but were open for modding if someone wished to plug them in.

[elanaiba]

I don't think there will be a straight patch with more stuff from the add-on. Basically 1.4 added as much as possible from the add-on, but the idea is that some improvements simply require too many changes (code) from the add-on, to be viable separately.

[CCIP]

Not to point it at you specifically Hitman, but I just wonder why some people are so apprehensive about buying the add-on.

It's good stuff. More content for $10? I spend that much on lunch at work sometimes. :p
And no, I'm not paid by Ubi to say this sort of stuff. I'll be the first to get skeptical should problems arise, but so far I think this one needs and deserves our support.

[Boris]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Not to point it at you specifically Hitman, but I just wonder why some people are so apprehensive about buying the add-on.

It's good stuff. More content for $10? I spend that much on lunch at work sometimes. :p
And no, I'm not paid by Ubi to say this sort of stuff. I'll be the first to get skeptical should problems arise, but so far I think this one needs and deserves our support.

I agree completely... the amount of negativity is staggering. It's hardly a hole in the pocket, plus it supports the dev team (who we really should support, despite the unfinished games they've made and we've ended up loving anyway), and we get more official content and improvements, which is a rare thing.

[Jaeger]

i think, the point are the bugfixes in the addon. if you paid for sh4, you must buy the addon for having a complete game. i didnt have my copy of it yet, but it seems to have some bugfixes like the gauges in the conning tower. this is a bugfix for 1.4. it cant be used by sh4 owners, which dont want to buy the addon. because of this point, ubi should release a seperatly patch (1.4b?) which includes the bugfixes of the addon.

greetz, Jaeger

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by CCIP

It's good stuff. More content for $10? I spend that much on lunch at work sometimes. :p

Jaaysus! :rotfl:

[elanaiba]

Originally Posted by elanaiba

I don't think there will be a straight patch with more stuff from the add-on. Basically 1.4 added as much as possible from the add-on, but the idea is that some improvements simply require too many changes (code) from the add-on, to be viable separately.

I need to quote this guy since he's very smart.

AkbarGulag, am I to understand that you have bought the game engine from us ?

[M. Sarsfield]

There are plenty of mods to correct the issues and there will continue to be, because, thankfully, we have a bunch of dedicated modders that are addicted to playing with code.

I think $10 for a download is more than reasonable, but I want to wait for the supermods to catch up to 1.5, first.

[AkbarGulag]

Originally Posted by elanaiba

AkbarGulag, am I to understand that you have bough the game engine from us ?

I certainly bought the rights to use it in its entirety.

Here's an example, the Game GuildWars. You would have heard of it i'm sure. This game I have purchased 3 expansions + mulitiple bonus 'add-ons'. But at the same time, the game will always make sure I have the same 'patch version' as any other player. Guild Wars has cost me about $500. The reason I keep spending the money is because I feel I will always be looked after. When I log into Guild Wars, I am updated with new content with no fee... constant 'patching'. I realise Anet has set a very high bar, maybe I am wrong to expect this much from each game I purchase.

It seems everyone has an urge to kick me at this point, for you it should be no different.

[elanaiba]

Originally Posted by AkbarGulag

I certainly bought the rights to use it in its entirety.

Here's an example, the Game GuildWars. You would have heard of it i'm sure. This game I have purchased 3 expansions + mulitiple bonus 'add-ons'. But at the same time, the game will always make sure I have the same 'patch version' as any other player. Guild Wars has cost me about $500. The reason I keep spending the money is because I feel I will always be looked after. When I log into Guild Wars, I am updated with new content with no fee... constant 'patching'. I realise Anet has set a very high bar, maybe I am wrong to expect this much from each game I purchase.

It seems everyone has an urge to kick me at this point, for you it should be no different.

Hmmm, did I say anything about kicking anyone? Not that I would be able, I am not a mod.

Now..

It's not about how cheap it is, it's about the fact it builds on a game engine I bought in entirety, expecting to be a prime benefactor of improvements to that engine.

You have not bought the Silent Hunter Engine in the sense you buy the UT engine, for example. As for the MP problem, I can sympathize, but that is unsolvable for us.

There are many games where the MP player base is divided by versions - see IL-2 -> AEP -> PF -> 1946. You can't play with the big guys unless you have the latest version. Perfect solution? no!

And frankly, If I didn't have a technology impediment and full decision control, my games would have "everyone has the same base, buy the new stuff to get to use it".

But if the add-on adds new ships, and you get them for free, why buy the add-on then?