Anyone else like moths or shall I shut up now? - Page 8

Sean C · 06-27-19, 06:57 PM

I took this picture at work the other day. Don't know what kind of moth it is.

Catfish · 06-28-19, 01:30 AM

Not familiar with US moths, let alone english names. Looks like a yellow woolly bear moth, also called Virginian tiger moth?

Aktungbby · 06-28-19, 01:55 AM

^INDEED

Eichhörnchen · 06-28-19, 02:55 AM

That seems to be one we don't get in the UK, although we have two moths called the Ghost Moth and Muslin Moth which are quite similar

Skybird · 06-28-19, 04:41 AM

My home town is haunted by the loopers of the oak processionary moth. We are one of the two worst affected places in whole Germany currently. Evil little critters, the whole town is infested by their poisonous hairs, schools, kindergardens, sport festivals swimming places, parks in parts get sealed off. City cant get too many of these nests although they work on it with total priority, they approach 10.000 nests removed, with an expected 15-20 times as many nests being around. Those hairs can live for years, and the winds can send them on loooong journeys. Many peope already got stuck, so got I, additionally to a photodermatosis (pseudo allergy against light/UV-A) that i already had when I got struck, making thigns worse. It all itches like hell. Itching, this word found a new definition in my awareness this year., and the meds recommended do not help much. Summer's not too good to me so far. I bought special new clothing, with tropical hardenign factors to avoid both the radiation and possible flying looper hairs. No short shirts or trousers.

Its every five years like this, some biological metacycle, but so bad as this year it has never been before, last year already was noticably worse, but this years tops it all. And even just burnign them off the trees is dangerous, since then more hairs get spread and get lifted higher into the air by the heat rising.

Argh!

Eichhörnchen · 06-29-19, 09:52 AM

https://www.forestresearch.gov.uk/to...-processionea/

Looks as though they're on the march everywhere: now a notifiable species in the UK so thanks for the heads up, mate... I had no idea about any of this and will also post this link on Facebook (we discussed the Asian Hornet on there not so long ago)

Skybird · 06-29-19, 10:54 AM

Several people had to undergo pathfinding surgery in the specialised eye hospital here in town at the university hospital UKM. They had gotten these hairs into the eyes, where they hooked up to and embedded themselves into the cornea. Problem was that the hairs are so fine and filigrane that usual surgery instruments find it difficult to handle them.

Ordinary victims try to deal with the allergy and the itching by using anti-histamine drugs and cortisone cremes. The itching is quite a calibre. My knee pits and calfs (calves?) looked like pizza spread. Mayn people got hit this year, it seems, at least here in town.

If you ever meet a nest of these critters - STAY AWAY, and tsaker care of kids and pets as well. I have seen photos of dogs who had terrible wounds on their noses. The hairs can stay chemically active for years, and can be blown up by the wind. Professional pest control is inevitable, these guy wear full isolation suits and face covers with garmasks - a horror of a job in these temperatures. I would prefer to deal with a nest of wasps to these loopers.

Skybird · 07-01-19, 09:39 AM

The oak processionary moth epidemy reaches the level of state politics. The ministry of health issues severe warnings and say that things have gotten worse, especially here in the Münsterland county. Medical offices are overcrowded with patients suffering from heavy allergic skin reactions, eye injuries, circulation problems and breathing problems, all caused by contact with the poisonous hairs of the loppers. Emergency ambulances of hospitals are stuck. More schools, open-air baths and parks got evacuated and shut down.

I live in a house with six appartments. Inhabitants in three of these six are hit, and we do not even have nests in our vicinity or street.

I report this only because there is a risk that this thing gets underestimated, because many people sitll have never heard of this aninmal, or may think it is some local news filling the summer news hole. Believe me, it is not that. And it is spreading in several countries of Europe, its a foreign, invasive species.

The state government tries to hire specialists from surrounding countries now who can help collecting nests with vacuums, amongst them French, Dutch and Danes. All local businesses and companies offering pest control, are already engaged and work even beyond their capacities.

These animals may be small and tiny, but they really pull off a show this year.

The hairs not only hold a poisonous proteine causing the allergic reaction, but also are very fragile and covered with microscopic barbs. They not only stick to surfaces and skin they get into contact with, but then break into pieces like splintering crystal and work themselves into the top layers of the skin and underlying tissue, making it even more difficult to remove them again (and very dangeorus if you get them into the eyes). The scars they can leave if things go really bad and extreme, remind of burnings and peeled flesh. The protein causing the allergic reaction also affects the cardiovascular system and breathing apparatus. By experience I can tell you, the itching is nerve-killing, and very heavy.

Eichhörnchen · 07-01-19, 11:03 AM

Could this turn into our Ebola? What a nightmare...

Sean C · 07-03-19, 02:36 AM

One of my female friends screamed at me yesterday to "Come get this bug!" Turns out it was a rather large moth. Quite a beautiful creature, if you ask me.

Sean C · 07-03-19, 02:47 AM

...might be a "Regal Moth".

Aktungbby · 07-03-19, 11:33 AM

ALSO HICKORY HORNED DEVIL...PUPATES TO REGAL MOTH!

Eichhörnchen · 07-05-19, 07:57 AM

^ That moth is a beauty... nothing like that here

Eichhörnchen · 07-05-19, 08:00 AM

I got this Small Skipper this morning; the thistles are out now and so are the Meadow Browns and Ringlets... all old friends of the Summer

Skybird · 07-05-19, 09:05 AM

Moths can be beauties, nothing against them, but still...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48880468

06-27-19, 06:57 PM	#106
Sean C Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 906 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 2	I took this picture at work the other day. Don't know what kind of moth it is. __________________ If you have a question about celestial navigation ... ask me! Celestial Navigation Spreadsheet

06-28-19, 01:30 AM	#107
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Not familiar with US moths, let alone english names. Looks like a yellow woolly bear moth, also called Virginian tiger moth? __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

06-28-19, 01:55 AM	#108
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,861 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	^INDEED __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

06-28-19, 02:55 AM	#109
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 15,748 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	That seems to be one we don't get in the UK, although we have two moths called the Ghost Moth and Muslin Moth which are quite similar __________________

06-28-19, 04:41 AM	#110
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,498 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	My home town is haunted by the loopers of the oak processionary moth. We are one of the two worst affected places in whole Germany currently. Evil little critters, the whole town is infested by their poisonous hairs, schools, kindergardens, sport festivals swimming places, parks in parts get sealed off. City cant get too many of these nests although they work on it with total priority, they approach 10.000 nests removed, with an expected 15-20 times as many nests being around. Those hairs can live for years, and the winds can send them on loooong journeys. Many peope already got stuck, so got I, additionally to a photodermatosis (pseudo allergy against light/UV-A) that i already had when I got struck, making thigns worse. It all itches like hell. Itching, this word found a new definition in my awareness this year., and the meds recommended do not help much. Summer's not too good to me so far. I bought special new clothing, with tropical hardenign factors to avoid both the radiation and possible flying looper hairs. No short shirts or trousers. Its every five years like this, some biological metacycle, but so bad as this year it has never been before, last year already was noticably worse, but this years tops it all. And even just burnign them off the trees is dangerous, since then more hairs get spread and get lifted higher into the air by the heat rising. Argh! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-29-19, 09:52 AM	#111
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 15,748 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	https://www.forestresearch.gov.uk/to...-processionea/ Looks as though they're on the march everywhere: now a notifiable species in the UK so thanks for the heads up, mate... I had no idea about any of this and will also post this link on Facebook (we discussed the Asian Hornet on there not so long ago) __________________

06-29-19, 10:54 AM	#112
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,498 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Several people had to undergo pathfinding surgery in the specialised eye hospital here in town at the university hospital UKM. They had gotten these hairs into the eyes, where they hooked up to and embedded themselves into the cornea. Problem was that the hairs are so fine and filigrane that usual surgery instruments find it difficult to handle them. Ordinary victims try to deal with the allergy and the itching by using anti-histamine drugs and cortisone cremes. The itching is quite a calibre. My knee pits and calfs (calves?) looked like pizza spread. Mayn people got hit this year, it seems, at least here in town. If you ever meet a nest of these critters - STAY AWAY, and tsaker care of kids and pets as well. I have seen photos of dogs who had terrible wounds on their noses. The hairs can stay chemically active for years, and can be blown up by the wind. Professional pest control is inevitable, these guy wear full isolation suits and face covers with garmasks - a horror of a job in these temperatures. I would prefer to deal with a nest of wasps to these loopers. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-01-19, 09:39 AM	#113
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,498 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The oak processionary moth epidemy reaches the level of state politics. The ministry of health issues severe warnings and say that things have gotten worse, especially here in the Münsterland county. Medical offices are overcrowded with patients suffering from heavy allergic skin reactions, eye injuries, circulation problems and breathing problems, all caused by contact with the poisonous hairs of the loppers. Emergency ambulances of hospitals are stuck. More schools, open-air baths and parks got evacuated and shut down. I live in a house with six appartments. Inhabitants in three of these six are hit, and we do not even have nests in our vicinity or street. I report this only because there is a risk that this thing gets underestimated, because many people sitll have never heard of this aninmal, or may think it is some local news filling the summer news hole. Believe me, it is not that. And it is spreading in several countries of Europe, its a foreign, invasive species. The state government tries to hire specialists from surrounding countries now who can help collecting nests with vacuums, amongst them French, Dutch and Danes. All local businesses and companies offering pest control, are already engaged and work even beyond their capacities. These animals may be small and tiny, but they really pull off a show this year. The hairs not only hold a poisonous proteine causing the allergic reaction, but also are very fragile and covered with microscopic barbs. They not only stick to surfaces and skin they get into contact with, but then break into pieces like splintering crystal and work themselves into the top layers of the skin and underlying tissue, making it even more difficult to remove them again (and very dangeorus if you get them into the eyes). The scars they can leave if things go really bad and extreme, remind of burnings and peeled flesh. The protein causing the allergic reaction also affects the cardiovascular system and breathing apparatus. By experience I can tell you, the itching is nerve-killing, and very heavy. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-01-19, 11:03 AM	#114
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 15,748 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Could this turn into our Ebola? What a nightmare... __________________

07-03-19, 02:36 AM	#115
Sean C Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 906 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 2	One of my female friends screamed at me yesterday to "Come get this bug!" Turns out it was a rather large moth. Quite a beautiful creature, if you ask me. __________________ If you have a question about celestial navigation ... ask me! Celestial Navigation Spreadsheet

07-03-19, 02:47 AM	#116
Sean C Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 906 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 2	...might be a "Regal Moth". __________________ If you have a question about celestial navigation ... ask me! Celestial Navigation Spreadsheet

07-03-19, 11:33 AM	#117
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,861 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	ALSO HICKORY HORNED DEVIL...PUPATES TO REGAL MOTH! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

07-05-19, 07:57 AM	#118
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 15,748 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	^ That moth is a beauty... nothing like that here __________________

07-05-19, 08:00 AM	#119
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 15,748 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Small Skipper I got this Small Skipper this morning; the thistles are out now and so are the Meadow Browns and Ringlets... all old friends of the Summer __________________

07-05-19, 09:05 AM	#120
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,498 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Moths can be beauties, nothing against them, but still... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48880468 __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.