UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage has hit out at three MEPs who quit the party and are now urging voters to back the Conservatives in the election.

He told the BBC that Annunziata Rees-Mogg, Lance Forman and Lucy Harris had strong personal links to the Tories.

But the MEPs say the Brexit Party's participation in the election will split the Leave vote.

A fourth MEP, John Longworth, lost the whip on Wednesday for criticising the party's election strategy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50672611

Hardly surprising in the case of Jacobs sister.

[STEED]

They already dumped three others.

The Fall of Nigel Farage has begun...

[Jimbuna]

Don't be too sure. I certainly don't see this as a two horse race.

[Jimbuna]

It's extraordinary that a former Conservative prime minister is urging people in some constituencies not to back the party he led.

This follows Tony Blair urging people not to give the party he used to lead, Labour, a majority.

Former Conservative leader Sir John Major has urged people to back independent candidates David Gauke, Dominic Grieve and Anne Milton - who were all expelled from the party for voting against Boris Johnson over Brexit - rather than the official Tory candidates.

In a video message to a “Stop the Brexit Landslide” rally organised by the Final Say campaigners, he calls Brexit “the worst foreign policy decision" in his lifetime, adding it will make the country "poorer and weaker".

Sir John says "tribal loyalties" had been loosened by Brexit, “no single Party has a monopoly on wisdom” and that “sometimes you need to vote with your head and your heart for your country and your future, adding: “This is such a time.”

He calls David Gauke, Dominic Grieve and Anne Milton "principled, decent human beings", adding without their "talent" Parliament would be "poorer", which is why he says he would vote for them if he was a constituent.

Tony Blair, the former Labour PM is also expected to urge voters not to give Boris Johnson a majority.

“It's not Brexit that's getting done. We're getting done."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2019-50683887

[Jimbuna]

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Don't be too sure. I certainly don't see this as a two horse race.

Nigel is no way going to get 20 MP's as some of these hardline brexiteers believe. No wonder he is already planning to rebrand his party under the working title the reform party.

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

It's extraordinary that a former Conservative prime minister is urging people in some constituencies not to back the party he led.

This follows Tony Blair urging people not to give the party he used to lead, Labour, a majority.

Just shows how both of these party's have swung further left and right and that goes for the libs as well. The centre ground has been abandoned to the four winds.

[Jimbuna]

Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn will go head-to-head later for the final time during the election campaign when they take part in a live BBC One debate.

The hour-long programme, hosted by Today presenter Nick Robinson, starts at 20:30.

It will be the last time the Tory and Labour leaders share a stage before polling day on 12 December.

The BBC's Iain Watson said the two men were likely to focus on core messages to try and win over undecided voters.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50681321

Bring it on....and an end to my repetitive junk mail.

[Jimbuna]

Spoke too soon.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Bring it on....

Jim must be out of beer, curry, pot noodle and no model planes arrived and all the rest to keep jim away from watching that rubbish.

I on the other hand will be at work....

I will miss it....

Do I care, no.....

Woo hoo its a win win for me.....

[Jimbuna]

Looks like this could be the main thrust of the meeting tonight, amongst other carp.

Jeremy Corbyn has said a leaked document obtained by Labour shows Boris Johnson is "misrepresenting" his Brexit deal and the "devastating" impact it will have on Northern Ireland.

He called the paper "hard evidence" NI would be "symbolically separated" from the rest of the UK after Brexit, with customs checks on goods.

Mr Johnson has repeatedly said there will be no border in the Irish Sea.

He dismissed Labour's claims as "complete nonsense".

Pressed on the issue during a campaign visit in Kent, the prime minister said his was a "fantastic deal" and the only checks would be on British exports to the Republic of Ireland going via Northern Ireland.

The Conservatives also said the leaked Treasury document was an "immediate assessment, not a detailed analysis".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50684881

[mapuc]

Next Friday about this time I think you would know who will be your next PM and how exact your polls have been, during this election campaign.

And if you are one step close to a Brexit or further away from it.

Markus

[STEED]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Next Friday about this time I think you would know who will be your next PM and how exact your polls have been, during this election campaign.

And if you are one step close to a Brexit or further away from it.

Markus

Remainers will be happy if.....

Labour wins with 25 plus seats
Labour wins but needs the SNP
Conservatives win with less than 5 majority, take into account tory remainers.

Brexiteers will be happy if.....

Conservatives win with 30 plus seats
Conservatives win less than 10 majority and needs the Brexit party or DUP or both.

Odds would suggest the remainers could win out.



I am having a rethink about voting, I am still not happy about not knowing what my Independent candidate stands for. So I got time for a long think.

[mapuc]

In the beginning of this year i was thinking the same as you

If I should change my standpoint and do my duty again.

The reason for this, was a new party had been created a few years earlier and they was very much against EU and if they got enough votes they will work for a Danish Danix.

Well I still haven't been voting since 2002.

A month before the Danish election this party leader said they are hoping to get enough mandate from the Danish voters so they can put some of the politician forward to challenge others Danish politicians for a seat in the EU-parliament.

So their anti-EU standpoint wasn't that much anti-EU.

I hope you who have voted leave and have decided to put your vote on politicians or party who have said they will take UK out of EU, haven't lied to you.

Markus

[Skybird]

Frogs squawk, birds fly and scorpions sting. Deceiving the public whenthey see it opportune,, is the nature of politicians. Do not expect them to be more than what they are, and they will never disappoint you.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Next Friday about this time I think you would know who will be your next PM and how exact your polls have been, during this election campaign.

And if you are one step close to a Brexit or further away from it.

Markus

Put simply....yes.