GER politics thread

[Catfish]

This is rather a philosophical attempt, but i agree to a lot of it

"Wrong side of the fence"
https://aeon.co/essays/why-israel-ha...r-of-the-other

I have two israeli friends from my studying days in Germany, one has gone bacl to Israel.. it is not all that easy and Israel is not alone what the Likud party wants you to believe.

There are reasons for criticism, worldwide, from Canada to Japan. No one denies Israel their nation or right to be there, but some of what they do in internationally accepted palestinian land is plain wrong.
https://www.ijvcanada.org/canadian-j...ps-peace-plan/

[mapuc]

Most of tomorrow's tableau on our news channel will be about Chancellor Merkel. This as a tribute of German Chancellor Merkel.

The first thing that popped up in my mind when I saw the the description of this upcoming program.

My friends Skybird and Catfish has a tiny different view on her politics and they may wonder why someone would make a tribute to her honour.

Whether you like or dislike her, she has been a factor in EU politics

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Whether you like or dislike her, she has been a factor in EU politics
Markus

Yes, that is true. She is no doubt the worst political calamity since 1933. Only the 12 years after 1933 did more damage to the Germans and put more burdens on their shoulders. Her damage to justice and liberty in Europe is hard to overestimate thanks to her pushing for the EU, again at Germany's massive cost and expanded vulnerabiltiies and dependencies. In the end the EEC probably only was founded to keep the German economy in chains after WWII.
Germans snuggled 16 years with an Anaconda. She returned the embrace. I count practically all her political "acchievements" as negatives. Abandoning nuclear power. Migration and open borders. Energy costs, and energy infrastructure. Target 2 policy. Iran. China. Turkey and Erdoghan. Erosion of Maastricht treaty. EU and vaccination buying. Treason over the EU constitution's validation rules and the dictate of Lisbon. And much more: these listed items are just the landmark acchievements.

In the end she is just a GDR-socialised political fat cat with the surprisngly authoritarian self-understanding of a SED Staatsratsvorsitzende. Too many decisions she made in explicit backroom deals in violation of democratic decision making rules, especially on EU level.

In the end the EU only exists to keep the Germans under control and in tight locks, and Germany subscribes to a worldview in which cultural differences between civilizations and ethnicities get denied. She was given an award by the Vienna-seated Coudehove-Kalergi society, like Kohl before her, another great germany-deniar. There are two ways in whcih yoiu can tell the story of Kalergi, one glossing over the ideal, the other being more realistic and thus negative.

I know nobody in germany who has the format to fill the chair at the top of German politics and state leadership. Nobody. The political class in Germany has the qualification and character suitability of as a left-over sale. Merciless mediocrity and dilettantism everywhere. No party is electable.

No, I am no nationalistically feeling man. I never was. But I believe in the ethical superiority of many of the basic conceptions of Western occidential cultural tradition. These have done more good than harm, and more good to mankind than any other culture ever has. Yeah IknowIknow, all the bads and evils also being done, but I stick to it: all in all added together, by net effect the occidental culture, the ancient greek heritage and the Christian-Judaic tradition have done more good than bad than anyone else (we have forgotten and get taught to ignore these roots, and see what has become of us, we have lost our sense of origin, we do not know who we are, we cannot even imagine why we even should want to be somebody: we are endlessly egalitarian quantities of nothingness, and accodignly we dwell around without orientation). I am a radical decentraliser of state authority and a strong opponent of the concept of strong centralised state. Thje bigger the bpaygroudn for potlkciians to paly on, the bigger the desaster and its rteac that they create - keep them on ultrashort lines, therefore. Thats why to me the institutions of the French and American and Russian presidents with their far reaching powers in the end are pure political nightmares, with Trump exemplarily ilustrating why this is so. i believe in that people and cultures are different, not equal, and that man and woman shall be equal before the rules of the land'S law. I believe that a state is just the highest and meaniesst form of organised crime, that taxes are illegitimately blackmailed protection money and loot, that a tax obligation exiosts only as far as their exists a obligation to get raped, and that every people has the right so self-govern itself in the place and region where it lives, and no other foreign authority from far away has a right to command them. I believe the state's power should be replaced with a system of private rights and that stuff that gets intransparently paid for with taxes, should not be financed by taxes, but by transparent raises on the attached price tags since the producers should be the ones takign care that their goods and services actually can be distributed (so they are self-interest- driven in the end). The only reasons why state-like structures are acceptable, is the protection of borders and the unified defence against miliutrary threats form outside. A state not guaranteeing the integrity of the broder and refusing to defend against a military enemy, has lost its legitimation. I am ver ymuch in congurncy with Hans Herrmann Hoppe's most radical diagnosis of the current state of things and his profound criticism of democratic contemporary structures. To me things do not work because in this setup they cannot work and do violate the basics of human nature, both in good and bad. Nothing designed to work against the basic human agture can endlessly prevail.

If you take all this together, you may understand why when some people attack me over my views on politics and EU call me a nationalist or Nazi, I onkly shak emy head and giggle. Nothing I am less than a nationalist. I refuse to be somebody else's lamb that he can exploit, thats it. I want not social solidarity without discrimination - I want justice. I rate liberty and freedom and self-responsibility over collectivism and foreign-defined "social responsibility". I deny that the question for justice can be brought up without causal own responsibility going first, and therefore I reject to feel myself responsible and obligated for people with whom I have no business whatever. I may choose to do so, for my personal reasons - but I have no obligation legally or morally to do so.

[mapuc]

Thank you for your in-depth explanation of Merkel and the situation in Germany today when it comes to the society, EU and foreign policy

I understand your critics after having read your reply.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

So....are we to presume you're not a fan of Merkels Sky?

[Catfish]

@mapuc i would take this as a personal opinion, and not much more.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Catfish

@mapuc i would take this as a personal opinion, and not much more.

Everyone here on this forum has his or her own opinion which is based on many factors.

Is Skybird totally wrong in his description, has he painted the devil on the wall ?

What's your opinion on Chancellor Merkel.

Has she done a good job for German and/or EU ?

Markus

[Catfish]

I think she did a good job, altogether. Missed some opportunities surely, but compared to what was/is going on in the world.. not bad.
I dislike a lot of things that she did economically, but it somehow worked - maybe not her personal achievement but that of industry and work though.

I know that Skybird first of all dislikes immigrants and the policies, so no wonder his stance towards her.
"Decisions in backrooms" lmao, any deal worth anything has always been made this way.
It took some courage to stand up and help fugitives from Syriah, which was the first and foremost reason to allow them coming to Germany, despite the nationalist feelings of some here. There were some economical fugitives and also some religious nuts among them, and from other countries of course. Who knows how much terrorristic action would have happened without all that, maybe less – or maybe more. In all i would say not much people in Germany have really suffered economically because of that, and it was a powerful humane decision that sent a powerful message, to Hungary, Romania, Poland, and internationally.

I am not an expert on other policies connecetd to her, in general she was quite reasonable, and decided from case to case, calmly pondering alternatives. This may be seen as a weakness, but at least it had an immediate and effective response to upcoming problems.

Skybird is not wrong in all things i guess, but as said before i am not an expert and i do not claim to be. Yes, he likes to "paint the devil on the wall."
As some respond to all those downfall prophets "Oh Gott, dann wird der große Arsch kommen und scheißt alles zu"
No translation.

[Catfish]

Finally: The Germans are dying out 01/13/2021

That has not happened since 2011: The population of the Federal Republic did not grow in the past year! This message gives strength to many people in difficult times, faint hope for an early end of Germany is growing.
In addition to the typically german sluggishness and libido-weakening TV programs such as "Markus Lanz", the recreational virus Corona is responsible for this. This is a curse and a blessing: On one hand, unfortunately, fewer people are migrating due to the pandemic, on the other hand, old Nazi grandpas are dying. So the long-awaited demise of the greatest generation is slowed down and accelerated at the same time. In addition, focus is on a factor that could suddenly succeed in the extinction of the Germans:
Donald Trump has not been very positive while talking about the country of his ancestors lately, and he still has access to nuclear weapons for a few days.

(from Titanic magazine)

[skidman]

Originally Posted by Catfish

In addition to the typically german sluggishness and libido-weakening TV programs such as "Markus Lanz", the recreational virus Corona is responsible for this.

[Skybird]

To precise Catfish: i do not like UNDISCRIMINATORY mass migration into German wellfare systems and from Islamic countries. I welcome migration of needed specialists and qualified workers from non African and non ME and non islamic countries. Not every foreign mentality serves Germany well, certain ones fit in better than others, while Islam explicitly sets itself apart claiming to be owed by the rest of the world submitting to it. This does not help integration, and it shows. Practically all our worries about non-integrating migrants are regarding Muslim migants. Thats why I have a strict sympathy for non-Islamic migrants exclusively. That Christianity is under the biggest global persecution ever, and this from the hands of Islam in the main, is another reason.


I insist on Germanys right to choose and define the criteria for whom it lets in and whom it rejects. A gen eral "human right" of settling unconditonally ins oembody else'S bckyard I absolutely reject. In fatc that is a violation of human rights - the human rights of the native population.


The net effect of mass migration in Germany currently is significantly negative, both financially and culturally. I'm against the asylum laws as currently existent. I am against asylum automaticlly leading to permanent residence and citizenship. Asylum is a temporary help, not more. A temporary relief, which represents a state that sooner or later comes to an end again, then the asylum seeker has to leave again. He has no claim to stay forever. I mean if you observew a traffic accident, you lend a hand in imminent help, and you do first aid and call the ambulance. But you are not responsible for the one you helped for the rest of your life, nor does the helped one have the right to live of you for the rest of his life.

I am against EU blackmailing attempts for mandatory mass migration quotas. I do not support the EU attacks versus Hungary, Poland, etc over these things. I insist on EU states having the right to protect and close their borders and to protect and prioritize inside their countries the historically grown culture and identity.

The birth rate of native Germans is still negative, the total birth rate is growing indeed due to the much higher birth rate amongst families with migration background. Over one quarter of Germany population now was found to have a migration background late last year, federal statistics say.



I recall times when that quota red below 10 percent. Christian churches are in decline. Islamic coomunities and backyard mosques pop up everywhere like mushrooms in autumn.

[Skybird]

MP Laschet has become new chief of the CDU. He has merkel in his head, so even with Merkel leaving chancellory, Merkelism is doomed to continue strangling Germany.



The CDU chair sees one nill after the opther added to its history. v.d.Leyen. Kramp-Karrenbauer. Laschet. Call it inflation then.


Key competence of Laschet is that he can endlessly babble cluelessly. Herzog Laschet der Leutselige he is being called by some. His Corona performance is a deaster, he has prevented carnival from being stopped early last year, and since then has turned his neck and views on what to do so often that I have stopped counting.

[Skybird]

If the Ministry of Economic Affairs plans to go ahead, owners of electric cars could face a temporary blackout. A bill allows electricity providers to take large consumers off the grid if there is a threat of overload. By amending the Energy Industry Act, the Federal Ministry of Economics wants to give electricity providers the option of temporarily taking large consumers such as electric cars and heat pumps off the grid remotely. This emerges from the draft law of the Federal Ministry of Economics, which is available to WELT AM SONNTAG. Paragraph 14a regulates the so-called peak smoothing, in which "controllable consumption devices", which should include electric car charging stations and heat pumps, cannot receive electricity for up to two hours a day if the network would otherwise be overloaded. The automotive industry has sharply criticized the Ministry's plans: "What is called peak smoothing unfortunately means switching off for customers," said Hildegard Müller, President of the Association of the Automotive Industry (VDA), at WELT AM SONNTAG. "If that happens, it would be very bad for all e-car owners and the companies that are now bringing e-cars onto the market." The Ministry of Economic Affairs presented a “unilateral proposal in favor of the energy industry”, which endangered the acceptance of e-cars. "If the law is passed in this way, it will clearly throw Germany back on the path to climate-neutral mobility." The Federation of German Consumer Organizations (VZBV) also criticized the draft law, saying it had to be improved. However, the draft is welcomed by the Federal Association of Energy and Water Management (BDEW). "The tip smoothing is the result of a long, expert-supported process in the Federal Ministry of Economics," said BDEW boss Kerstin Andreae according to the report. "Alternatives were also discussed, but we are convinced that tip smoothing is the most suitable instrument to ensure network stability." Costs should be pushed The energy association wants to keep the costs for the network expansion low. "It is inefficient to expand the grids in such a way that the last kilowatt hour can be delivered even at peak times, if a small time shift in consumption is possible without sacrificing convenience for the customer," argued Andreae. "It is clear that we must and will continue to expand our networks." There are currently “various approaches and discussion proposals” on how to maintain the stability of the electricity grid, said a spokeswoman for the Ministry of Economic Affairs. "There is currently no final decision as to which approach can best be used to achieve the goal." In government circles it was said that the draft could be revised again. Peak smoothing will probably remain in law, but the definition of which consumers can be switched off could be changed. Electric cars and heat pumps could be taken out.

https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/artic...ktroautos.html

To say it in plain English: they plan to obliterate the energy system in Germany to a degree that cutting off power supply is becoming a viable option for the state, as if Germany were one primitive third world country. And Germany brings itself to this status without need, voluntarily.

Rationising electricity. Intentionally. Think of that. Germany. First world, major economic power. The germans are going totally nutsy.

The same applies to the now coming mandatory change of households to using socalled smartmeters, which allow a complete surveillance of electric consummation habits of private households. If somebody decides by this gained data that the household consumes more than it should in this decider's opinion, he can be switched off.


Other brilliant ideas of these futuriostic terror idiots: they want to use batterie sin e-cars beign used bia rmeote control as mdoulating instances for powergrid stability, the owner may have not taken the car off the net when it charged com0letely, so the state/the energy companies want to discharge the battery if need arises to feed the stored power into the grid again if need be. If th eownber then come sback and needs to sue the car and find it discharged - his bad luck.


Really, they are seriously planning this and similiar scenarios, and work on making them lawS!


In other words, German moves toward srationing elect4ricitys, after having iontioduced the world'S most costly pricetags for electirc power - and a system where you pay the end consumer pays the more, the more renweable energy gets produced. You do not pay less with growing supply, no - you pay MORE.

The instablity in the German powergrid meanhwile escalates slowly but surely ever further.

And this #### they dare to call "progress".


Meanwhile, in the world around stupid Germany apparently everybody builds nuclear powerplants. Only the stupid Germans know it better. Mal wieder.

Irrenanstalt. They will not stop before we live in caves again. And ride on horses again... no, no horses, they produce CO2.

P.S. smartmeter counters offer a huge platform for hijacking them and creating botnets, the CCC has demonstrated already. In a famous novel over here they also served as the trojan horse entry for a hostile attack brigning down electricity across all Europe and causing a weeks long blackout.

[Rockstar]

I think it's safe to say most homes in the U.S. have been linked to big brother for quite awhile now. At first, we heard of the same fears how intrusive it would become and the power 'they' will have over the masses.

However the only things that changed was the electric company no longer has to send someone onto my property to read a meter. And when the bill arrives it now contains more details about my electrical usage and how I compare to similar homes. Thanks to this new tech I can actually review and use this information on my bill to make changes and help reduce costs. I like it.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

As some respond to all those downfall prophets "Oh Gott, dann wird der große Arsch kommen und scheißt alles zu"
No translation.