Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Jimbuna]

[mapuc]

^ Here is what happened

(from an article the day after)

A Russian corvette violated Danish territory twice during the night on Bornholm, where this year's People's Assembly is taking place.

At 02:30 last night, a Russian corvette violated Danish territory north of Christiansø, off Bornholm. A few hours later, the same corvette again crossed the border into Danish territory - again off Christiansø.

This is stated in a press release.

The Russian ship left Danish territorial waters after a call on civilian VHF radio from the Naval Maritime Operations Unit.

It happens just at the same time as the political Denmark is gathered on Bornholm for Peoples meetings.

Foreign Minister: - Completely unacceptable
Denmark's Foreign Minister, Jeppe Kofod (S), calls it a gross and completely unacceptable Russian provocation and bullying method in the middle of the Danish People's Meeting.

And the fact that it happened while the Danes are gathered for a democracy demonstration adds extra pressure to the provocation, says Kofod.

- With the invasion of Ukraine, Putin is democracy's enemy number one, and he illustrates that in the finest way here, he says to TV 2 and adds:

- It says everything about Russia, but also everything about the fact that we as a strong democracy do not allow ourselves to be provoked.

He says the Russian ambassador has been summoned to the Foreign Ministry.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Not in any situation did Denmark or Russia fire shots against the other.

Don't know why this exaggeration

Markus

[Jimbuna]

That's the reason I take most stories with a grain of salt and seriously rate a very small number.

[mapuc]

Nothing wrong with their confidence

State Duma of the Russian Federation hints to USA about the return of Alaska

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/6/7356694/

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine says it is investigating more than 21,000 war crimes and crimes of aggression allegedly committed by Russia since the start of its invasion.

Prosecutor General Iryna Venediktova told the BBC she was receiving reports of between 200 to 300 war crimes a day.

She admitted that many trials would be held in absentia, but stressed that it was "a question of justice" to continue with the prosecutions.

In May, Ms Venediktova said that about 600 suspects had already been identified and 80 prosecutions had begun.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62073669

[Jimbuna]

A Moscow councillor has been jailed for seven years for speaking out against Russia's war in Ukraine - in what is said to be the first full jail term under new laws targeting dissent.

Alexei Gorinov, 60, was arrested in April after he was filmed criticising the invasion in a city council meeting.

Under the post-invasion law, anyone who spreads "fake news" about the military faces up to 15 years in jail.

Russians are banned from using the word war to describe the invasion.

President Vladimir Putin has instead coined the phrase "special military operation", although he spoke of the "war in the Donbas" in remarks to parliamentary leaders on Thursday.

Human rights activist Pavel Chikov said Gorinov's sentence was the first jail term under the new law. Until now judges have only handed down a fine or a suspended sentence.

Judge Olesya Mendeleyeva ruled he had carried out his crime "based on political hatred" and had misled Russians, prompting them to "feel anxiety and fear" about the military campaign.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62092196

[Jimbuna]

Russia transfers reserve forces from all over country and collects 1950s equipment for offensive in Ukraine, - British intelligence Source: https://censor.net/en/n3353041

Russia is transferring reserve forces from all over the country and pulling them up to Ukraine for future offensive operations. Most of the new infantry units are deployed with MT-LB armored vehicles, removed from long-term storage, as the main transport.

This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to the Ministry of Defense of Great Britain on Twitter. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3353041

[Dargo]

The German government has signed a contract with a Norwegian manufacturer for the supply of ammunition for Gepard self-propelled anti-aircraft guns promised to Ukraine. Multi reports of Russian depots hit because of High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) this will slow down the Russian artillery steamroller doctrine. New variations of Missiles given to HIMARS will allow Ukraine to hit any Russian position well out of range of hunter drones or counter battery fire.

[Dargo]

I know that our army is led by a bunch of untrained morons. Stupidly vile, miserable, vindictive, petty, thieving, herdish, getting together as big “army mafias”, bringing “tithe” from their incomes to the very top. Simply dumb and stupid thieves. Just as the civilian authority. No, much difference. And the morons themselves start figuring it out. The fact that they are morons. And of course that they were after all stealing from themselves. Stealing own future... https://wartranslated.com/lpr-blogge...ot-explosions/

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Dargo

I know that our army is led by a bunch of untrained morons. Stupidly vile, miserable, vindictive, petty, thieving, herdish, getting together as big “army mafias”, bringing “tithe” from their incomes to the very top. Simply dumb and stupid thieves. Just as the civilian authority. No, much difference. And the morons themselves start figuring it out. The fact that they are morons. And of course that they were after all stealing from themselves. Stealing own future... https://wartranslated.com/lpr-blogge...ot-explosions/

Excellent.

The only that really concerns me is this can escalate pretty quick. As I think both sides are beyond the point of no return.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Excellent.

The only that really concerns me is this can escalate pretty quick. As I think both sides are beyond the point of no return.

Escalate to what?

[Rockstar]

Use your imagination

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Use your imagination

My imagination would be a second Russian Revolution bet that is not yours

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Dargo

My imagination would be a second Russian Revolution bet that is not yours

Maybe China will invade to protect all the Chinese speakers in the Russian Far East. All they have to do is think like a Russian/Victim, point out some historical or present day wrongs and then send in their troops, tanks and arty. Wouldn’t that be a hoot.

Key Historical Sources of Chinese Mistrust of Russia

https://chinapower.csis.org/china-ru...sses-mistrust/

Treaty of Kulja (1851) Russia gained access to trade with areas in Xinjiang.

Treaty of Aigun (1858) China forfeited over 600,000 square kilometers of land to Russia.

Treaty of Tientsin (1858) Russia gained the right to trade with treaty ports by sea, as well as expanded extraterritoriality in treaty ports. Russia also established a legation in Beijing.

Treaty of Peking (1860) China ceded large swaths of its northeastern territory to Russia.

Treaty of St. Petersburg (1881) China paid Russia 9 million silver rubles. Russia expanded its consular network in Western China and Russian traders were allowed duty-free trade in Xinjiang and Mongolia.

Li-Lobanov Treaty (1896) Russian warships gained access to Chinese ports. Russia was permitted to build a railway through Heilongjiang and Jilin Provinces and station troops to protect it. China reduced tariff rates on Russian goods.

Convention for the Lease of the Liaotung Peninsula (1898) Russia was granted the lease to Port Arthur (in modern day Dalian) and Russian railways were permitted to extend to the port.

Boxer Protocol (1900) China was forced to pay 450 million taels of silver to 8 powers, with the lion’s share (29 percent) going to Russia.

Sino-Soviet Border Conflicts (1968-1969) China and Russia engaged in multiple border skirmishes, including at Zhenbao Island, where 72 killed were killed and 68 wounded on the Chinese side.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Maybe China will invade to protect all the Chinese speakers in the Russian Far East. All they have to do is think like a Russian/Victim, point out some historical or present day wrongs and then send in their troops, tanks and arty. Wouldn’t that be a hoot.

Key Historical Sources of Chinese Mistrust of Russia

https://chinapower.csis.org/china-ru...sses-mistrust/

Treaty of Kulja (1851) Russia gained access to trade with areas in Xinjiang.

Treaty of Aigun (1858) China forfeited over 600,000 square kilometers of land to Russia.

Treaty of Tientsin (1858) Russia gained the right to trade with treaty ports by sea, as well as expanded extraterritoriality in treaty ports. Russia also established a legation in Beijing.

Treaty of Peking (1860) China ceded large swaths of its northeastern territory to Russia.

Treaty of St. Petersburg (1881) China paid Russia 9 million silver rubles. Russia expanded its consular network in Western China and Russian traders were allowed duty-free trade in Xinjiang and Mongolia.

Li-Lobanov Treaty (1896) Russian warships gained access to Chinese ports. Russia was permitted to build a railway through Heilongjiang and Jilin Provinces and station troops to protect it. China reduced tariff rates on Russian goods.

Convention for the Lease of the Liaotung Peninsula (1898) Russia was granted the lease to Port Arthur (in modern day Dalian) and Russian railways were permitted to extend to the port.

Boxer Protocol (1900) China was forced to pay 450 million taels of silver to 8 powers, with the lion’s share (29 percent) going to Russia.

Sino-Soviet Border Conflicts (1968-1969) China and Russia engaged in multiple border skirmishes, including at Zhenbao Island, where 72 killed were killed and 68 wounded on the Chinese side.

Sure, china is not pleased with Putin can they be pursued to drop Russia they got a lot of anti US sentiment