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Old 05-23-20, 06:44 AM   #1
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Hi All. Find a fantastic overhaul mod for CW in steam, "Epic MOD" from Russia, partly translated into English, which introduces some amazing new features like wake homing torpedo, manually release towered array, etc and improves AI significantly.

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https://steamcommunity.com/app/54121...2762828258838/
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Old 05-23-20, 09:25 AM   #2
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Welcome aboard and thanks for the link!
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Old 05-23-20, 10:41 AM   #3
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M134 mentioned this last month in another thread and I downloaded it then. It's a big mod to be sure. It and CW Playable Subs mod certainly could duke it out for the inevitable "CWX" ultra-mod title.
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M134 mentioned this last month in another thread and I downloaded it then. It's a big mod to be sure. It and CW Playable Subs mod certainly could duke it out for the inevitable "CWX" ultra-mod title.

It was updated recently, in which multi-language is provided. It also provides metric system with Russian crew voice, which is really fun.

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Old 05-23-20, 04:43 PM   #6
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Glad you like it guys) We're trying to make this mod fun and with more content. Thanks to efforts of Rokvam, Frank and some other people it is now with partial translation to English.
Btw, Epic Mod is quite old, but it became avaliable to english-speacking community just recently.

@ETR3(SS) You've served on a sub... Can I ask you a question?

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Glad you like it guys) We're trying to make this mod fun and with more content. Thanks to efforts of Rokvam, Frank and some other people it is now with partial translation to English.
Btw, Epic Mod is quite old, but it became avaliable to english-speacking community just recently.

@ETR3(SS) You've served on a sub... Can I ask you a question?
Sure go ahead, I don't mind answering what I can.
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M134 mentioned this last month in another thread and I downloaded it then. It's a big mod to be sure. It and CW Playable Subs mod certainly could duke it out for the inevitable "CWX" ultra-mod title.

CWX means a lot, HAHA. Will keep eyes on it

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Well, I remember when GWX for SH set such a bar for mods that "DWX" was the title all the Dangerous Waters mods tried to adopt (Reinforce Alert being the first, and eventually earning the status). "CWX" would seem to be the corresponding milestone for Cold Waters.
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Found a latest video with Epic Mod 2.11 in youtube, in which the dual between sealwolf and oscar (AI) is very impressive. I think the AI is much smarter than vanilla. You can see the torpedo evasion maneuvering of the oscar, during which he even remembered to counter-fire with waterfall missiles when close to surface!



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Found a latest video with Epic Mod 2.11 in youtube, in which the dual between sealwolf and oscar (AI) is very impressive. I think the AI is much smarter than vanilla. You can see the torpedo evasion maneuvering of the oscar, during which he even remembered to counter-fire with waterfall missiles when close to surface!



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Wow, looks like the AI is really smart.
In both the sub vs sub duel it is impressive the efforts the AI puts in trying to evade the torpedoes.

If you lose the wire I have the feeling that the AI can actually evade them as effectively as the human player usually do.

One thing I do not like was seeing the player controlling the seawolf launch a torpedo at a big angle while running at 20 knots and the wire didn't brake... this makes things t bit too easy IMHO.
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Wow, looks like the AI is really smart.
In both the sub vs sub duel it is impressive the efforts the AI puts in trying to evade the torpedoes.

If you lose the wire I have the feeling that the AI can actually evade them as effectively as the human player usually do.

One thing I do not like was seeing the player controlling the seawolf launch a torpedo at a big angle while running at 20 knots and the wire didn't brake... this makes things t bit too easy IMHO.

It kept changing depth in big range with continuously deploying decoys, which makes it very difficult for human players to maintain contact if with passive sonar. Without 3D camera’s help, the torpedoes could have lost the target already.

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Old 05-26-20, 04:13 PM   #13
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yes this is a massive improvement over stock but is wildly out on many factors for instance :

Torpedo reload times , wire Break Threshold , Max Depths , Submarine weapon Load,s ect

However this Mod Represents a Major Improvement Platform for cold waters im quite deep in to the things that have been changed and its is very impressive

my only additions really will be much more better accurate weapons & vessels and maybe Thermal Torpedo's and under water Flare Decoy,s so like Aircraft flare,s vs heat seeker missiles but Navy Versions of Aquatic Flares vs Underwater thermal seeking torpedo's

deployable self propelled mines are a thing im toying with also you could send em in on coming ships paths then when targets are within proximity sensor range they self propel them self's at the target

And real world extensive Countermeasure systems also better hud and information displays for weapons and controls for each era or submarine types so analog and digital systems.

the other aim im going for is so its very important to identity your targets so you know what weapons you are up against

i may make lock mod so you can only view your own sub external

so you cant see what your weapons are doing bar on conditions and map displays so no more all my weapons have Cameras in the nose and then use them like fly by wire underwater attack planes i recon with out that feature the hit rates will fall of quite a bit.

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Old 05-26-20, 08:19 PM   #14
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yes this is a massive improvement over stock but is wildly out on many factors for instance :

Torpedo reload times , wire Break Threshold , Max Depths , Submarine weapon Load,s ect

However this Mod Represents a Major Improvement Platform for cold waters im quite deep in to the things that have been changed and its is very impressive

my only additions really will be much more better accurate weapons & vessels and maybe Thermal Torpedo's and under water Flare Decoy,s so like Aircraft flare,s vs heat seeker missiles but Navy Versions of Aquatic Flares vs Underwater thermal seeking torpedo's

deployable self propelled mines are a thing im toying with also you could send em in on coming ships paths then when targets are within proximity sensor range they self propel them self's at the target

And real world extensive Countermeasure systems also better hud and information displays for weapons and controls for each era or submarine types so analog and digital systems.

the other aim im going for is so its very important to identity your targets so you know what weapons you are up against

i may make lock mod so you can only view your own sub external

so you cant see what your weapons are doing bar on conditions and map displays so no more all my weapons have Cameras in the nose and then use them like fly by wire underwater attack planes i recon with out that feature the hit rates will fall of quite a bit.
Seems like EM has introduced some improvement regarding wire-breaking, see following from config
"//After this time (in seconds) game makes wire break on run checks every minute. Actual time when you're guaranteed your (and AI's) wires will not break on run is 60 sec more
//Default is 240
ReliableWireTime=480"

Anyway, EM is a huge step up from vanilla in main perspective.
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