Who / What / Where Game - Page 1011

u crank · 01-23-21, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by skidman

Sunk in WW2?

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Vaterland?

No to both.

Jimbuna · 01-23-21, 12:55 PM

Post WWII?

u crank · 01-23-21, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Post WWII?

Built during WW2.

Aktungbby · 01-23-21, 01:25 PM

in europe?

Buddahaid · 01-23-21, 01:29 PM

Catfish mentioned SS America earlier. Is that it?

Jimbuna · 01-23-21, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Catfish mentioned SS America earlier. Is that it?

Thanks, I was about to mention that and the SS America is the only liner I can find that was built and launched during WWII

u crank · 01-23-21, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Catfish mentioned SS America earlier. Is that it?

My apologies. I completely missed that post by Catfish. Thank you for pointing that out.

Yes that is it.

Once again sorry. Over to you.

Aktungbby · 01-23-21, 01:44 PM

The hull rust color looks about right! is it in salt water??!!

Catfish · 01-23-21, 02:59 PM

Hey Aktungbby, thanks for the update

Not much left of her, i know we cannot preserve all that has been built, but sometimes it is a shame ..

I have nothing ready, so will take a bit of time

Aktungbby · 01-23-21, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tarjak

Please PM the winner so they get a reminder.

At least someone tends la tiénda!

Catfish · 01-23-21, 03:29 PM

^ So you acted for u crank as a deputy?

Ok here is the new one - hope i did not post it before

Aktungbby · 01-23-21, 03:31 PM

Greek tireme? BELAY THAT, it's a minoan sailing type 4 vessel possibly from Thera with one row of oars not a bireme or trireme. note cables on stern:

In a previous existence I actually tried to escape Thera in one of these but the pumice layer on the sea's surface did me in!

mapuc · 01-23-21, 03:39 PM

It look like a tireme

Whether it's Greek is doubtful-Because the time when these sailed in the Mediterranean-the country Greece was divided in several states
(from my memory)

Markus

skidman · 01-23-21, 03:41 PM

It is a model of the "real thing" in a museum?

Catfish · 01-23-21, 03:58 PM

Umm .. this did no take long .. the vine-dark seas seem to have inspired Aktung

@Mapuc not a trireme but going in the right direction, pre-"greek" so to speak.

@skidman A model in a museum, but there is no "real thing" - just what some historians and ship builders reconstructed from paintings

Aktungbby has it, a minoan vessel as it existed around the Thera explosion, paintings of those ships have been found on the walls in Akrotiri. The question is what this strange thing at the stern was used for. King Minos has been quoted to have thousand ships with which he put an end to piracy in on "his2 seas.
These special ships were most probably used for celebration, cult and war, not for trade. Some say this rear contraption was used as a ram, since the ships could be rowed forward and backward, and the rear "castle" could then have been used for warriors like archers, but i do not think so.
If you take a closer look at the frieze from Akrotiri, you may get an idea

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiff...tdeckt%20wurde.

translated english:
https://translate.google.com/transla...eckt%2520wurde.

Evans "found" and dug out Knossos, but is was Schliemann who had located and wanted to do this, much like with the german paleontologists and then Leaky claiming the Olduvai area for himself, when Germany lost its colony after WW1 and had to withdraw their archeologists.
Akrotiri was then excavated by greek Spyridon Marinatos, and it was not immediately known whether the island of Thera had even belonged to the minoan culture. As was found out later Thera was probably the spiritual center of the Minoans, and such as the depicted boats sailed from Crete to Thera every spring, as soon the weather would allow it again after the winter storms.

Akrotori was then buried with tuff, pumice and lava during the Thera explosion at ~ 1550 before Christ, and only discovered in the 20ieth century by chance. Some palaces at the northern coast of crete were destroyed by the tsunami, though the civilisation as a whole survived.

Akrotiri and excavation site today: https://www.santorini-view.com/museu...s-of-akrotiri/

Complete model in the museum:

Over to Aktungbby

01-23-21, 12:55 PM	#15152
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,240 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Post WWII? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

01-23-21, 01:25 PM	#15154
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,868 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	in europe? __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

01-23-21, 01:29 PM	#15155
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,561 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Catfish mentioned SS America earlier. Is that it? __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

01-23-21, 01:44 PM	#15158
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,868 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	The hull rust color looks about right! is it in salt water??!! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

01-23-21, 02:59 PM	#15159
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hey Aktungbby, thanks for the update Not much left of her, i know we cannot preserve all that has been built, but sometimes it is a shame .. I have nothing ready, so will take a bit of time __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

01-23-21, 03:29 PM	#15161
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ So you acted for u crank as a deputy? Ok here is the new one - hope i did not post it before __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

01-23-21, 03:31 PM	#15162
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,868 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Greek tireme? BELAY THAT, it's a minoan sailing type 4 vessel possibly from Thera with one row of oars not a bireme or trireme. note cables on stern: In a previous existence I actually tried to escape Thera in one of these but the pumice layer on the sea's surface did me in! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe" Last edited by Aktungbby; 01-23-21 at 04:02 PM.

01-23-21, 03:39 PM	#15163
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,902 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	It look like a tireme Whether it's Greek is doubtful-Because the time when these sailed in the Mediterranean-the country Greece was divided in several states (from my memory) Markus

01-23-21, 03:41 PM	#15164
skidman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Near the Dutch mountains Posts: 1,147 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	It is a model of the "real thing" in a museum? __________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.” (Douglas Adams)

01-23-21, 03:58 PM	#15165
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Umm .. this did no take long .. the vine-dark seas seem to have inspired Aktung @Mapuc not a trireme but going in the right direction, pre-"greek" so to speak. @skidman A model in a museum, but there is no "real thing" - just what some historians and ship builders reconstructed from paintings Aktungbby has it, a minoan vessel as it existed around the Thera explosion, paintings of those ships have been found on the walls in Akrotiri. The question is what this strange thing at the stern was used for. King Minos has been quoted to have thousand ships with which he put an end to piracy in on "his2 seas. These special ships were most probably used for celebration, cult and war, not for trade. Some say this rear contraption was used as a ram, since the ships could be rowed forward and backward, and the rear "castle" could then have been used for warriors like archers, but i do not think so. If you take a closer look at the frieze from Akrotiri, you may get an idea https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiff...tdeckt%20wurde. translated english: https://translate.google.com/transla...eckt%2520wurde. Evans "found" and dug out Knossos, but is was Schliemann who had located and wanted to do this, much like with the german paleontologists and then Leaky claiming the Olduvai area for himself, when Germany lost its colony after WW1 and had to withdraw their archeologists. Akrotiri was then excavated by greek Spyridon Marinatos, and it was not immediately known whether the island of Thera had even belonged to the minoan culture. As was found out later Thera was probably the spiritual center of the Minoans, and such as the depicted boats sailed from Crete to Thera every spring, as soon the weather would allow it again after the winter storms. Akrotori was then buried with tuff, pumice and lava during the Thera explosion at ~ 1550 before Christ, and only discovered in the 20ieth century by chance. Some palaces at the northern coast of crete were destroyed by the tsunami, though the civilisation as a whole survived. Akrotiri and excavation site today: https://www.santorini-view.com/museu...s-of-akrotiri/ Complete model in the museum: Over to Aktungbby __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 01-23-21 at 04:14 PM.*