Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Catfish]

Interesting, about voluntary service in the Ukraine forces, how to do it, some political bias like "why does Fox news support Russia" (obviusly the same as with the extreme right and left in Germany)
Whatever, this was good to see for me.

[Catfish]

New "Vuhledar massacre" film
Translated video with the comments of the Ukrainian military during the battle

https://twitter.com/Boba12340769066/...52008930267136

[Skybird]

Despite Hersh's claims, it is not clear to us, the public, who blew up Nordstream. Back then I said the US has a clear motive, in fact a whole set of motives, but that I would expect them to not doing it due to the high polticla cost to them if that coup would ever be revealed. The Russian motive is clear, too, so is the interest of Ukraine and Poland to see that pipeline go.

I still think dominantly that it was Russia. But I cannot and never have ruled out the US either.

Anyway, if Russia blows up Nordstream which it has build itself, then this is one thing. If they blow up a pipeline between Norway and the UK, this is a direct attack against two NATO states infrasttructure. Its as if NATO blows up an oilfield or a big powerplant in Russia.

Not only an open declaration of war. But also a reason why then we must enter the war.

We must get ready.

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The "Zeitenwende" for the Germna Budneswehr more and more becomes a running joke (and I told you so last spring, that it is not meant serious and that it would not be meant serious at all). 13-15 billion of the special budget already have been eaten up - for interest payments, more buying power of that budget gets killed for nothing, just due to inflation and the money not beign spent. They have ordered some F-35s now, okay, fine - but that is all so far. No ammo. No replacements for what has been given to the Ukraine. Nothing.

Instead there a bitter inside-party fight amongst the Green and the SPD parties to not stick to the proclaimed 2% of GDP goal that Babble Olaf announced, in fact the regular defence budget is SHRINKING again this year. Baerbock wants at all cost get the command over a new security policy gremium to be created in Germany (comparable to the American security council advising the president) so that she can enforce at the Greens' will that development aid is counted as defence spendings and that defence moneys get channelled to development aid funds. By doing so the Greens want to increase (unconditional) development aid and being allowed to claim at the same time that they boost the defence budget by doing so.

A raise of German military potency is not really wanted.

The special budget already is so short again that they already have started to CUT ideas and plans for what to do with themoney. Plans and ideas with a financial volume of 13-15 billion, to be precise. Replacing the 14+5 Leopards going to Ukraine will cost around 200 million. Nobody knows where the money should come from. It will take many, many years until repalcmeent is there. The tank batallion "spenign" these tnaks, has 34 tanks. 10 ate in Lithuania, 14 go to Uktraine, 5 are kept in reserve for Ukraione. Of the rest (5!), almost all tanks are non-operational.What that means even for training, you can figure out yourself. 5 tanks, mostly non-operational.

I want to tatoo Bonhoeffer's letter about the nature of human stupidity on the forehead of every green idiot I come across so that he must read it whenever he looks into a mirror.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The Russian losses are not that interesting, we know the Russian way of waging this war now.
The Ukrainian losses and especially their ammo situation is what would be interesting to know. Because to influence both these in Russian favour is why the Russians do what they are doing.

Zelensky's advisor is reported to have begged Western allies desperately for sending ammo, saying that "we are practically blank".

The Russian losses are not that interesting, yet the incapability to archive its military goals are key for the Russians that define its failure to win this war. For Ukraine, it is to learn combined arms warfare best compared to an orchestra only when the different parts of an orchestra work together and coordinate everything, you get the best sound. But this mode of warfare requires endless practice, units have to get used to each other, they have to adapt to each other. Every day that the Russian troop build-up progresses, the urgency of US training becomes even more apparent. Apart from the high-tech tanks, from the Leopard and Challenger to the Abrams, the Ukrainian army also gets other heavy armored equipment: 109 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and 90 Stryker armored cars. These US vehicles allow infantrymen to quickly advance to the front and join the attack with the tanks.

Tanks are not blissful, tanks alone are not going to make the difference in the coming months, you cannot go into battle with tanks alone. Infantry and tanks always act together in some mix. The success of the Ukrainian army will depend on whether it can properly implement this joint action. You have to fight the Russians in an integrated way. They struggle with that because they have a different way of waging war. The big question is whether the Ukrainians still have enough time to master the Western method of fighting. If the Russians strike in spring, as is expected, only a few thousand soldiers will have been trained in Grafenwöhr. Nor will all the tanks already be on the battlefield. The West must then hope that the available numbers are sufficient. And that the Ukrainians are as inventive as they were last year.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Despite Hersh's claims, it is not clear to us, the public, who blew up Nordstream. Back then I said the US has a clear motive, in fact a whole set of motives, but that I would expect them to not doing it due to the high polticla cost to them if that coup would ever be revealed. The Russian motive is clear, too, so is the interest of Ukraine and Poland to see that pipeline go.

I still think dominantly that it was Russia. But I cannot and never have ruled out the US either.

Anyway, if Russia blows up Nordstream which it has build itself, then this is one thing. If they blow up a pipeline between Norway and the UK, this is a direct attack against two NATO states infrasttructure. Its as if NATO blows up an oilfield or a big powerplant in Russia.

Not only an open declaration of war. But also a reason why then we must enter the war.

We must get ready.

----------------

The "Zeitenwende" for the Germna Budneswehr more and more becomes a running joke (and I told you so last spring, that it is not meant serious and that it would not be meant serious at all). 13-15 billion of the special budget already have been eaten up - for interest payments, more buying power of that budget gets killed for nothing, just due to inflation and the money not beign spent. They have ordered some F-35s now, okay, fine - but that is all so far. No ammo. No replacements for what has been given to the Ukraine. Nothing.

Instead there a bitter inside-party fight amongst the Green and the SPD parties to not stick to the proclaimed 2% of GDP goal that Babble Olaf announced, in fact the regular defence budget is SHRINKING again this year. Baerbock wants at all cost get the command over a new security policy gremium to be created in Germany (comparable to the American security council advising the president) so that she can enforce at the Greens' will that development aid is counted as defence spendings and that defence moneys get channelled to development aid funds. By doing so the Greens want to increase (unconditional) development aid and being allowed to claim at the same time that they boost the defence budget by doing so.

A raise of German military potency is not really wanted.

The special budget already is so short again that they already have started to CUT ideas and plans for what to do with themoney. Plans and ideas with a financial volume of 13-15 billion, to be precise. Replacing the 14+5 Leopards going to Ukraine will cost around 200 million. Nobody knows where the money should come from. It will take many, many years until repalcmeent is there. The tank batallion "spenign" these tnaks, has 34 tanks. 10 ate in Lithuania, 14 go to Uktraine, 5 are kept in reserve for Ukraione. Of the rest (5!), almost all tanks are non-operational.What that means even for training, you can figure out yourself. 5 tanks, mostly non-operational.

I want to tatoo Bonhoeffer's letter about the nature of human stupidity on the forehead of every green idiot I come across so that he must read it whenever he looks into a mirror.

A direct attack against two NATO state infrastructure will mean airstrike (maybe military targets in occupied Ukraine) in the worst case article 5 does not automatically mean direct all out war.

[Skybird]

Article 5 has holes like a Swiss cheese. I was not about that, but I was about something far more fundamental.

[tonschk]

Harnwell: “Western leaders want to be extricated from Ukraine without visibly abandoning Zelensky”

https://rumble.com/v2913i6-ben-harnwell-reports.html

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Catfish

What the hell do they think they are doing there?


"Russia's in the wrong century actually, just take a look at the revival of the Russian Orthodox Church. As a matter of fact it's hard to see what they're fighting or even dying for, maybe that's why they're mostly told what they're fighting against.

Because what the hell is Russia the last bastion of? Hypocritical religious orthodoxy combined with oligarchic despotism, corruption and general backwardness? Sure, give me such a noble cause to sacrifice myself for, please!"

Ukraine gives Russia know historical for this kind of defense a dose of its own medicine. Ukraine should not be tempted, once all Western tanks are on the ground and confidence has grown as a result, to be the first to launch an offensive. Then they have to break through the Russian positions, they have been trying that for three months now at Kreminna in the Luhansk region, and it is going very slowly. The Ukrainians should try to get the Russians out of their positions if that happens, they can deploy the tanks and Bradley's to take out the Russian units. The Russian defenses will be weakened by then because they have consumed a lot of ammunition, soldiers and equipment. In the event of a counterattack, the Ukrainian army can then try, while their artillery and air force bombard the Russians' positions, to break through the Russian positions at some point. After the breakthrough, the pursuit should continue for as long as possible. The tanks in front, if it is open terrain, followed by the infantry. This interplay, this orchestra, determines who will win or lose.

Russian failure in Vuhledar shows poor training of the newly mobilized. According to the Institute for the Study of War, recent footage shows that Russian forces fighting near Vuhledar engage in "highly dysfunctional tactics," indicative of the soldiers' poor training. Now let's get to grinding our meat doctrine will show same failure as now let's start our artillery steamroller doctrine Ukraine will be able to absorb the Russian attacks.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by tonschk

Harnwell: “Western leaders want to be extricated from Ukraine without visibly abandoning Zelensky”

[SNIP]

History provides us with no shortage of clowns and buffoons who were in politics. Clowns, while they sometimes use humor strategically, are buoyed by the fact that their clown persona is the draw. Their very existence thumbs a nose at the status quo. The clown is “one of us” against the people who keep us down. And as Napoleon said, “In politics, absurdity is not a handicap.” In fact, it is precisely the absurdity of the clown prince that sets him (they have thus far all been men) apart. Jokes can be deadly serious, and even today’s clown princes have a point to make. But clowns best serve us while on the outside looking in. Once in office, these clown princes cease to be funny. They have also been failures at governing. When the court jester becomes the king, when buffoons are taken seriously, when clowns rule, is the end far behind? Of course, we’ve weathered worse storms before. At least with this one, we may die laughing.

[Dargo]

To all the trolls, this is the best: Head of Russia's Wagner terrorist group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, said it could take 2 years for Russia to fully control Ukraine's eastern Donetsk & Luhansk regions. And yet, Putin says his "special operation" is going according to plan.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Dargo

The Russian losses are not that interesting, yet the incapability to archive its military goals are key for the Russians that define its failure to win this war. For Ukraine, it is to learn combined arms warfare best compared to an orchestra only when the different parts of an orchestra work together and coordinate everything, you get the best sound. But this mode of warfare requires endless practice, units have to get used to each other, they have to adapt to each other. Every day that the Russian troop build-up progresses, the urgency of US training becomes even more apparent. Apart from the high-tech tanks, from the Leopard and Challenger to the Abrams, the Ukrainian army also gets other heavy armored equipment: 109 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and 90 Stryker armored cars. These US vehicles allow infantrymen to quickly advance to the front and join the attack with the tanks.

Tanks are not blissful, tanks alone are not going to make the difference in the coming months, you cannot go into battle with tanks alone. Infantry and tanks always act together in some mix. The success of the Ukrainian army will depend on whether it can properly implement this joint action. You have to fight the Russians in an integrated way. They struggle with that because they have a different way of waging war. The big question is whether the Ukrainians still have enough time to master the Western method of fighting. If the Russians strike in spring, as is expected, only a few thousand soldiers will have been trained in Grafenwöhr. Nor will all the tanks already be on the battlefield. The West must then hope that the available numbers are sufficient. And that the Ukrainians are as inventive as they were last year.

Their chief of staff was assigned just short of the war, in the yera before, and he has pushed that the arm ylearns right these things. To a adegree that evens urporised Wetsenr excoerts the Ukrainians alrerady were caoabvle to integrate their own operaitons ninto the standards of NATO operaitons. They have much lesser problems to learn these "new" things than you maybe assume. I wepould even think that regarding intgerate darms and manouver warfare they are the best experienced experts in the world currently. Nobody else in trhwe world has waged such high interest ybattles - and not nonyl survived, though under heavy losse,s but even won them. Not even the Israeli of the past few decades. Not the Americans.

What they need is - MATERIAL: They run threateningly low on it, and now. And integrated arms with mechnaized formations means: IFV's PLUS TANKS. They get too few of them, in too small portions, and too late. They hoped to get 150 MBT, they needed 300, they probably will not evcen get 100, and most of these just later on. When those arirve, the Loepards probabaly will already have suffered first casualties.

Too little. Too late. Their top commander says he needs 300 tanks, 600-700 IFVs, 500+ artillery to move the forces from positional warfare back to mobile warfare and into an offensive. He will get - over the coming 12+ months! - 100 MBTs, 150 IFVs or so, 50-100 artillery.

The Russians are plundering their mothballed tank reserves. In the sam etime they will throw toegther formt hese 11000-12000 mothbvalled tnaks a number of 2000+ tanks. In artillery they are dominant in numbers anyway. They have no air superiority, but they command it and they have area denial capability. And their economy is in war production mode. They work around. They find solutions to economic hinderances.

Tehcnolgy can comeonsate for infeiror number sonly to a certain degree, a certain ratio. Beyond this treshhold number, the bigger numbers decide the war.

Time is against Ukraine. Western public is getting tired, more and more obviously it is tried to force Ukrainians to "negotiate". Biden has send his enovy to Putin and Zelensky, asking for negotiations, both said No, of course, and that was when Biden then agreed to the Germans' alibi demand to send Abarams tanks. around the end of the year or even in 2024. And that sudden change was what caught Scholz on the wrong foot, he went to the summit expetcing the Americans would not move and he could continue to refuse sendign tanks. Biden'S decision for him was a desaster, not a sign of his strategic superiority which he claims for himself. Washington has completekly outmanouvered him. Over here in Germany he sells it as his success, all media parrot that and most bvelieve it. People are idiots.


Note that even Washington gives ukraine not what it needs, onyl enough to keep the war running. Too little to win, too much to die. That is intentional. Boiling the frog. In the end, Washingotn ahs no interest in Ukraine, only in maximising damages and negatuve coinsequences for Russia. Washington is about Russia, not about Ukraine. Europeans seem to not get this. It favours American interests, not European interests. And both interests are really not the same. Is that a surprise? No, it is not.

States have no friends. States have interests.

[Skybird]

NZZ: Moscow, Red Plaza

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Dargo

To all the trolls, this is the best: Head of Russia's Wagner terrorist group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, said it could take 2 years for Russia to fully control Ukraine's eastern Donetsk & Luhansk regions. [...]

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...90188849741824

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Their chief of staff was assigned just short of the war, in the yera before, and he has pushed that the arm ylearns right these things. To a adegree that evens urporised Wetsenr excoerts the Ukrainians alrerady were caoabvle to integrate their own operaitons ninto the standards of NATO operaitons. They have much lesser problems to learn these "new" things than you maybe assume. I wepould even think that regarding intgerate darms and manouver warfare they are the best experienced experts in the world currently. Nobody else in trhwe world has waged such high interest ybattles - and not nonyl survived, though under heavy losse,s but even won them. Not even the Israeli of the past few decades. Not the Americans.

What they need is - MATERIAL: They run threateningly low on it, and now. And integrated arms with mechnaized formations means: IFV's PLUS TANKS. They get too few of them, in too small portions, and too late. They hoped to get 150 MBT, they needed 300, they probably will not evcen get 100, and most of these just later on. When those arirve, the Loepards probabaly will already have suffered first casualties.

Too little. Too late. Their top commander says he needs 300 tanks, 600-700 IFVs, 500+ artillery to move the forces from positional warfare back to mobile warfare and into an offensive. He will get - over the coming 12+ months! - 100 MBTs, 150 IFVs or so, 50-100 artillery.

The Russians are plundering their mothballed tank reserves. In the sam etime they will throw toegther formt hese 11000-12000 mothbvalled tnaks a number of 2000+ tanks. In artillery they are dominant in numbers anyway. They have no air superiority, but they command it and they have area denial capability. And their economy is in war production mode. They work around. They find solutions to economic hinderances.

Tehcnolgy can comeonsate for infeiror number sonly to a certain degree, a certain ratio. Beyond this treshhold number, the bigger numbers decide the war.

Time is against Ukraine. Western public is getting tired, more and more obviously it is tried to force Ukrainians to "negotiate". Biden has send his enovy to Putin and Zelensky, asking for negotiations, both said No, of course, and that was when Biden then agreed to the Germans' alibi demand to send Abarams tanks. around the end of the year or even in 2024. And that sudden change was what caught Scholz on the wrong foot, he went to the summit expetcing the Americans would not move and he could continue to refuse sendign tanks. Biden'S decision for him was a desaster, not a sign of his strategic superiority which he claims for himself. Washington has completekly outmanouvered him. Over here in Germany he sells it as his success, all media parrot that and most bvelieve it. People are idiots.


Note that even Washington gives ukraine not what it needs, onyl enough to keep the war running. Too little to win, too much to die. That is intentional. Boiling the frog. In the end, Washingotn ahs no interest in Ukraine, only in maximising damages and negatuve coinsequences for Russia. Washington is about Russia, not about Ukraine. Europeans seem to not get this. It favours American interests, not European interests. And both interests are really not the same. Is that a surprise? No, it is not.

States have no friends. States have interests.

More happening In the UK, Ukrainian recruits are being hastily trained, including for urban combat. Some 20,000 infantrymen are to be prepared for war this year as part of Operation Interflex, notably also by Dutch marines. Last year there were about 10,000. Another important training takes place in Germany, at the US Army's vast training and firing range near the Bavarian town of Grafenwöhr. Every month, some 500 Ukrainian soldiers are trained here by the US to soon go on a joint and coordinated attack with new Western weapons.

On this training, it will partly depend on whether Ukraine can stop the major Russian offensive and mount a successful counterattack. For Kiev may be happy that it now gets state-of-the-art Western tanks, but without the help of combat soldiers and their armored vehicles (infantry), decent firepower (artillery) and preferably airborne support, the Russian positions cannot be stormed. 'Together' is therefore the magic word at Grafenwöhr.

"We hope we can get this done soon," America's top military chief of staff Mark Milley said last month about converting enough Ukrainian military personnel into soldiers to fight together. "Even before the first rains of spring hit. That would be ideal." The rapid maneuvers preached by the Americans at Grafenwöhr, in which the enemy is completely surprised and overpowered, has been the strategy of the US military and European allies such as the Netherlands for decades. The US put this combined arms warfare into practice during the two Gulf wars against the Iraqi army. Ukrainian soldiers were trained by US and NATO instructors from 2014 until the invasion began. Thereafter, they knew how to put that Western training to good use; for example, they proved remarkably inventive and decisive in fighting the Russians last year. Lower-level commanders made grateful use of the space they were given to make decisions independently. This is unthinkable in the Russian army, which is highly hierarchical.

The Russians are already having big problems with this "offensive" it is going according to the plan even Wagner knows now the Russian army are backstabbers and will not help them in times of need this will biggly boost the Russian moral in the coming months when weather will change into wet season, so their advance will be even worse than it already is who is this genius who though to start an offensive month before bad weather.

[tonschk]

UKRAINIANS ACCUSING UKRAINIAN REGIME DICTATOR AND HIS TROOPS OF KILLING HIS OWN PEOPLE