Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Black lives matter was the answer to the killing of foremost black people, an answer and demonstration against racial hate of some policemen, with an underlying systemic problem it seems; and this reaction was "somehow" understandable, don't you think so?

No. In spirit BLM made sense. But the moment it resorts to murder and mayhem then no. It loses all credibility and shows itself for what it really is. Just another gang of thugs like Antifa. And I find it hard to believe that anyone who believes in a Liberal society would support that kind of 'protest'.

[Skybird]

Lives matter, no matter the colour.

As long as the owner of said life does not dispise the life of others.

I never liked the slogan "BLM", therefore. Blacks are not more of worth than whites, browns, yellows, reds, pinks and invisible ones.

Having a skin color is not a merit that ennobles you. (Same for sexual orientation, btw: "Gay pride" makes no sense to me, slogans like this are intellectual duds for me.)


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arent we in the wrong thread for this...?

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by u crank

No. In spirit BLM made sense. But the moment it resorts to murder and mayhem then no. It loses all credibility and shows itself for what it really is. Just another gang of thugs like Antifa. And I find it hard to believe that anyone who believes in a Liberal society would support that kind of 'protest'.

I was not in the US when these protests got out of hand, i was seeing this via tv, papers, internet.
We always hear that there is no racism, a thing of the past, we got over it... bullsh!t. It is everywhere, not only in the US, but there was a bit too much shooting at black people with video and internet evidence to ignore it. So yes in spirit BLM makes sense because this slogan reminds the people that there is racial bias, more black people killed in relation, wanting to remind the world that black lives ALSO MATTER. It never meant that ONLY black lives matter, as the usual suspects immediately perpetrated, but that they ALSO do.

Next are demonstrations with the usual rabble rousers walking along with the initially peaceful organisers, abusing them for hiding in the masses and create some action. How much demonstrations have we seen where the organisers tried to get rid of the aggressive idiots and looters and drive them out of their marching blocks. Never saw this on Breitbart and Fox? Too bad.

What certain people wanted was to condemn all the demonstrations, to divert from the real problem and re-install the usual propaganda in the people's minds of blacks and leftists looting.
What a ... will come to that later –

[August]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Yes and it would seem if i'm going to hang around the briar patch.I have two choices, jump in and get scratched or learn to keep my fingers under control. I hope you are doing well up there, Spring and Summer is around the corner and i bet it's going to be beautiful in your neck of the woods.Tks.August

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Catfish

What certain people wanted was to condemn all the demonstrations, to divert from the real problem and re-install the usual propaganda in the people's minds of blacks and leftists looting.
What a ... will come to that later –

One billion dollars damage and twenty people killed during the 2020 George Floyd 'protests'. And the results. No change what so ever. In a civilized, progressive, liberal society social change is never brought about by violence regardless of the cause. Stop making excuses for it. If the leaders of BLM want to change things they need to get elected.

[FUBAR295]

How about we get back on topic....

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Skybird

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arent we in the wrong thread for this...?

Originally Posted by FUBAR295

How about we get back on topic....

Indeed! The next post must have the word(s) Putin, Russian, or war criminal in it!

[Commander Wallace]

Russia removed from UN Human Rights Council after Ukraine atrocities



https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-sus...il-ukraine-war

[les green01]

I already sweated for my country who you think pays for all this aid and hardware going over every American that pays taxes that who I'm sure your right about Russia and China doing the net crap but then I'm sure we are too ones who calls for fighting should be first ones up if NATO gets attacked then go all in no problem but it's a loose loose situation for America going get blame for everything anyway

[Otto Harkaman]

[mapuc]

Read somewhere that Australia have decided to send lethal aid to Ukraine

Australia will send a further $26.5 million in military aid for Ukraine in the form of anti-armour weapons and ammunition.

https://www.aap.com.au/news/australi...sia-sanctions/

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Going off topic
Since it has to do with WWIII I post it here
When did WWII Start In my opinion it started Sept. 3rd the prolog to WWII Started Sept. 1 st(When Germany invaded Poland)

Why I ask Someone has put up some equation where the sum is 68 in all World Wars
And they have put up Sept. 1st as start of the war. Maybe you seen it ?
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Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

Impressive, I applaude the man, and fullheartly agree with evertyhing he said.


Only at around minute 5:00 he said something like that Russia will be willing to escalate or stay dangerous for as long as Putin is there. I can only warn, warn again, and warn more against this perception of that without Putin Russia will change for the better. IT WILL NOT. This one war maybe will be given up, but Russia's acting and behaviour will not fundamentally change. However, I fear, that Western politicians rather sooner than later will be prone again to listen to and believe in sweet lies about a better future, friendship, beign partners and all that bull.

[les green01]

When I was getting ready for work this morning the news said Russia admitted to a war crime but didn't catch any of it anyone know anything about that

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by mapuc

When did WWII Start In my opinion it started Sept. 3rd the prolog to WWII Started Sept. 1 st(When Germany invaded Poland)

Depends on the point of view. You could argue the to dates for the war in Europe (1st/3rd Sept 1939). You could also easily point out to the start of the Sino-Japanese war (Marco Polo Bridge Incident on 7 July 1937 or Mukden Incident 18 September 1931). But it's also valid to say that the war didn't become a global war until Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941.

Why I ask Someone has put up some equation where the sum is 68 in all World Wars
And they have put up Sept. 1st as start of the war. Maybe you seen it ?
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Markus

Sorry to put it in harsh words: that's esoteric hogwash.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by u crank

One billion dollars damage and twenty people killed during the 2020 George Floyd 'protests'. And the results. No change what so ever. In a civilized, progressive, liberal society social change is never brought about by violence regardless of the cause. Stop making excuses for it. If the leaders of BLM want to change things they need to get elected.

I have nothing to object here. But promoting this idea and chances to be elected.. good luck with that.
It is more hip to scrap with a political opponent than to improve society and care for the real issues.
And with why this happens here we are back to Putin..